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8. As far as the assault weapons
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:49 PM
Jan 2013
I think that instead of concentrating only on individuals we need to ban... whatever passes for assault weapon. Anything that can discharge several shots in a few seconds.

I'm giving up on the semantics of this, but the class of firearms you're describing is much, much broader than I think you think it is; it's essentially every firearm designed in the 20th century, and 80% of guns in private hands. Part of why people like me are so resistant to renewing the assault weapons ban is because it doesn't ban this class of weapons, but just a subset of them based on how they look, so it's a big political hit without actually doing anything about the problem. (Case in point: the weapon Lanza used was legal under the AWB because it lacked a bayonet mount. Yes, really. But attempts to make it "stronger" by catching all the weapons with the capabilities that actually matter keep running into the fact that that's basically every new gun sold and the majority of guns people already own. That's much harder to ban.)
there is another problem with the backround check dsc Jan 2013 #1
So we fix that Recursion Jan 2013 #2
I presume that is what Biden is saying dsc Jan 2013 #3
Nope... an FFL can still deny the transaction... -..__... Jan 2013 #9
OTH it make take weeks to complete a check under the new, yet to be written procedures. One example jody Jan 2013 #23
frankly I don't have any problem, nor do I consider it abuse, for dsc Jan 2013 #24
Alot has been said about mental illness question everything Jan 2013 #4
Mass random shootings start discussions, but are probably bad drivers of policy Recursion Jan 2013 #5
Or the fact that people can steal guns from otherwise legal and registered owners Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #31
Even bolt action rifles can fire several times in a few seconds. Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #6
As far as the assault weapons Recursion Jan 2013 #8
How they look is one of the very problems that needs to be addressed. RC Jan 2013 #27
I'm sorry, background checks and "improved mental health" is just window dressing DryRain Jan 2013 #7
Windsor also has much less inequality. MUCH less Recursion Jan 2013 #10
I'm sorry, immigration in Canada? THAT's the problem in the USA? DryRain Jan 2013 #13
The only difference in gun availability is that a Candian PAL takes a week as opposed to the 3-day Recursion Jan 2013 #14
PAL's have very rigid restrictions Americans don't face DryRain Jan 2013 #16
Does Windsor have gang infested ghettos? nt hack89 Jan 2013 #12
Are you asking a rhetorical question? DryRain Jan 2013 #17
So they can smuggle drugs by the pallet load but not guns? hack89 Jan 2013 #18
The Windsor, Ontario drug probem pales in comparison to Detroit DryRain Jan 2013 #21
Exactly - the solution to gun violence is a just society hack89 Jan 2013 #22
No private transfers means police can track down straw purchasers AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #20
there is a lot of support out there samsingh Jan 2013 #11
I like this one. Kingofalldems Jan 2013 #15
It's a correct use of language though. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #19
Private transfer is a huge loophole. groundloop Jan 2013 #25
There's a solution to that: one year in jail unless... DryRain Jan 2013 #26
Why do you only want the 1% to have guns? AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #29
I don't ! I want 1% to have the rights to DryRain Jan 2013 #32
Have you ever heard of a Poll Tax? AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #33
I used to pay one, Yes! I heard of it DryRain Jan 2013 #34
Artificial cost has nothing to do with 'well regulated'. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #36
Please stop making stuff up DryRain Jan 2013 #39
Never read District of Colubmia vs Heller (2008) huh? AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #40
A 'loophole' suggests an unintended usage. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #28
True. Or it could simply suggest a means to circumvent regulations.... groundloop Jan 2013 #37
No private transfers would go a long way to ending straw purchases AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #38
Which wouldnt have stopped Newtown, Ct n/t. Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #30
No. Mass shootings are generally bad drivers for policy Recursion Jan 2013 #35
Would This Open Up The Data Bases? Macoy51 Jan 2013 #41
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