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In reply to the discussion: Biden cites broad agreement on ‘universal background checks’ for gun buyers [View all]Recursion
(56,582 posts)8. As far as the assault weapons
I think that instead of concentrating only on individuals we need to ban... whatever passes for assault weapon. Anything that can discharge several shots in a few seconds.
I'm giving up on the semantics of this, but the class of firearms you're describing is much, much broader than I think you think it is; it's essentially every firearm designed in the 20th century, and 80% of guns in private hands. Part of why people like me are so resistant to renewing the assault weapons ban is because it doesn't ban this class of weapons, but just a subset of them based on how they look, so it's a big political hit without actually doing anything about the problem. (Case in point: the weapon Lanza used was legal under the AWB because it lacked a bayonet mount. Yes, really. But attempts to make it "stronger" by catching all the weapons with the capabilities that actually matter keep running into the fact that that's basically every new gun sold and the majority of guns people already own. That's much harder to ban.)
I'm giving up on the semantics of this, but the class of firearms you're describing is much, much broader than I think you think it is; it's essentially every firearm designed in the 20th century, and 80% of guns in private hands. Part of why people like me are so resistant to renewing the assault weapons ban is because it doesn't ban this class of weapons, but just a subset of them based on how they look, so it's a big political hit without actually doing anything about the problem. (Case in point: the weapon Lanza used was legal under the AWB because it lacked a bayonet mount. Yes, really. But attempts to make it "stronger" by catching all the weapons with the capabilities that actually matter keep running into the fact that that's basically every new gun sold and the majority of guns people already own. That's much harder to ban.)
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Biden cites broad agreement on ‘universal background checks’ for gun buyers [View all]
Recursion
Jan 2013
OP
OTH it make take weeks to complete a check under the new, yet to be written procedures. One example
jody
Jan 2013
#23
Mass random shootings start discussions, but are probably bad drivers of policy
Recursion
Jan 2013
#5
Or the fact that people can steal guns from otherwise legal and registered owners
Puzzledtraveller
Jan 2013
#31
I'm sorry, background checks and "improved mental health" is just window dressing
DryRain
Jan 2013
#7