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TheProgressive

(1,656 posts)
88. Well Bill...
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:13 AM
Jan 2013

First, you have assumed incorrectly. I believe you are suggesting that I am a
'NRA/Gungeon recruit'. You will notice I did not mention anything about 'guns' in
my post.

Some people, Bill, just think harder and longer on subjects. Maybe that is why I am a Progressive.
Since Bush, our Constitutional rights have been burned in front of our eyes and, and, We the People
have not 'screamed' our opposition.

Because 'guns' are in the Bill of Rights (you can find that here incase you have never read it: http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/charters.html) it is not only a 'gun' issue, it is a
Constitutional issue, and a Presidential Powers issue. And I am absolutely correct, in all respects,
that the 'Executive Orders' solution has to be very carefully weighed. Do you have a problem with that?

Remember that in 'disasters and chaos', hastily made decisions are not always the best. We need a well thought out
solution to address the gun issue in America.

We have three branches of government each designed to provide checks and balances on the others. And
the People should and must be the ultimate check and balance by loudly voicing our opinions. I will *always*
voice my opinion on what I think is right.

So, Bill, please...be part of the solution. DU was once where we could have intelligent conversations and debate.

K and R for all the Alex Jones fans Kingofalldems Jan 2013 #1
K and R of the Alex Jones Fans n/t Pachamama Jan 2013 #42
Okay, then, just for them: freshwest Jan 2013 #81
I have a problem with issuing 'executive orders' on this... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #2
Discussion? okay. mac56 Jan 2013 #3
Anwar al- Awlaki TheProgressive Jan 2013 #10
Didn't he renounce his citizenship and EC Jan 2013 #15
Type this in your Internet Search 'obama can assassinate americans' TheProgressive Jan 2013 #21
lol...that search should get you targeted. didact Jan 2013 #108
Yeah, American citizens that don't associate with terrorists are safe. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #24
Define "terrorist" demwing Jan 2013 #27
I'm not paranoid enough to believe the government is targeting the average Joe... Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #99
Let's just throw away due process and the Geneva conventions while we're at it. Ash_F Jan 2013 #58
I understand your frustrations. Please read my reply above. Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #100
Your lack of qualms comes from ignorance Ash_F Jan 2013 #102
The problem there is ... Akoto Jan 2013 #4
Since when is telling the truth a 'pot-shot'? TheProgressive Jan 2013 #11
But therein lies the problem. WeekendWarrior Jan 2013 #49
Let me re-phrase... these are 'facts'... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #50
But whose facts? WeekendWarrior Jan 2013 #53
What facts are you questioning? TheProgressive Jan 2013 #62
Obama should executive order that all legal guns are WMD & treat them like terrorists are treated graham4anything Jan 2013 #5
Executive Order mpdog Jan 2013 #33
I see what you're saying brew987 Jan 2013 #48
This site is getting way out there lately Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #80
+1 n/t Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #86
Sarcasm mpdog Jan 2013 #93
My first amendment right is violated by some stupid ass reading of 2nd by corrupt court graham4anything Jan 2013 #63
So you'll just say screw the rule of law? NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #75
all we need is a new interpretation by a different court-by end of Hillary45, in 2025 graham4anything Jan 2013 #90
Rights mpdog Jan 2013 #95
yes, a gun stops me from breathing graham4anything Jan 2013 #96
For someone who has stopped breathing... NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #110
Well, if 'TheProgressive' sez so... nt onehandle Jan 2013 #7
I appreciate your deep and thoughtful comment...(?) TheProgressive Jan 2013 #13
It will be interesting to see what he can do. The scope of Executive Orders is limited. Xithras Jan 2013 #28
Thanks for your thoughtful input... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #36
what executive order are you referring to where he CitizenPatriot Jan 2013 #46
Not an executive order... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #47
It would be more helpful if you make a claim CitizenPatriot Jan 2013 #65
Here ya go... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #70
I'm sure that President Obama and billh58 Jan 2013 #85
Well Bill... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #88
Thanks again for your billh58 Jan 2013 #92
It seems.... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #103
Let's see... billh58 Jan 2013 #104
You are correct. He can only do certain things. Jennicut Jan 2013 #38
I gotta agree wuth you on this. Great Caesars Ghost Jan 2013 #51
I doubt the House of Representatives would let it stand anyways. bubbayugga Jan 2013 #56
No one knows what EO he could issue...my point is that great care must be taken. TheProgressive Jan 2013 #61
I agree. I am uncomfortable with the recent tendency toward executive orders. razorman Jan 2013 #67
100% in agreement. amandabeech Jan 2013 #74
I'm surprised at this, Waiting For Everyman Jan 2013 #6
If he does nothing DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #8
I agree, and I'm not against him doing it. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2013 #19
Good. nt. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #9
Indeed. They're long past due for a fucking (metaphorically.) nt Chorophyll Jan 2013 #16
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #66
Neither was chimpy shrub but you didn't have any problem at all ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2013 #69
K&R SunSeeker Jan 2013 #12
This will not end well Redford Jan 2013 #14
Agreed... Coyote_Tan Jan 2013 #30
I agree obama2terms Jan 2013 #73
The clips will probably be limited to 95 rounds. ErikJ Jan 2013 #17
You said clips!!11!!1!1 klook Jan 2013 #37
K&R nt Chorophyll Jan 2013 #18
Ram it down their throat mwrguy Jan 2013 #20
Exactly correct...the time for "conversation" with the gun nut assholes is over alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #31
Congress sat on their hands and did nothing after Congresswoman Giffords was shot rightsideout Jan 2013 #22
Good idea if Congress won't act... humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #23
Fast. Walmart meets with him tomorrow and has pulled some gun types off of sales. Sunlei Jan 2013 #25
Walmart's too busy to meet with Biden... DonViejo Jan 2013 #29
Walmart changed their mind today and will meet tomorrow, they are USA top gun seller Sunlei Jan 2013 #40
Thanks for that news, Sunlei! nt DonViejo Jan 2013 #54
Can't create a national gun registry by Executive Order Xithras Jan 2013 #35
They already have some kind of registry?. mexico was asking for the names and addresses. Sunlei Jan 2013 #41
That's where things get tricky. Xithras Jan 2013 #43
Until Congress sends a Bill to Obama, I think this is an excellent idea. Hoyt Jan 2013 #26
Well, nothing's coming out of the House on this, so EO may be the only way Recursion Jan 2013 #57
True. The Republican House will not pass anything that will tick off bigots. Hoyt Jan 2013 #59
You might want this, but christx30 Jan 2013 #118
I think it's a public safety issue riverwalker Jan 2013 #32
My concern is for Obama and Biden. You know Frustratedlady Jan 2013 #34
I worry too. Jennicut Jan 2013 #39
I always worry about that and for their families. Sunlei Jan 2013 #44
My stomach dropped when I saw the headline when I logged on. AngryOldDem Jan 2013 #72
Neocons are already screaming VA_Jill Jan 2013 #45
And approved of guns being taken away after Katrina......... thelordofhell Jan 2013 #52
Post-Katrina, guns were not being taken away ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #55
An executive order that will just be undone by the next (R) president, instead of real reform. Socal31 Jan 2013 #60
The Wingnuts are already freaking out here in Oklahoma Joey Liberal Jan 2013 #64
Oh boy is this great XRubicon Jan 2013 #68
Obama has stated he will do whatever is in his power and if Congress sits on their butts they might Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #71
Excellent, All Necessary First Steps Toward Repealing The 2nd Amendment - Thank You Joe! cantbeserious Jan 2013 #76
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #77
This will probably get me banned, but the truth is often an invitation to hate: fiddlesticks Jan 2013 #78
all the gov can do is hit the dealers larkrake Jan 2013 #79
Per the video: they're meeting with the NRA and GOA, listening to them, too. freshwest Jan 2013 #82
GUESS WHAT? Gunowner Rights Protected By ObamaCare... freshwest Jan 2013 #83
Youtube version CNN Secret Gun Provision Hidden In Obamacare: freshwest Jan 2013 #84
Interesting, since our pediatrician ask about general hazards in and around the home. Claybrains Jan 2013 #107
What slippery slope? Only slippery for those who carpet their home with banana peels. freshwest Jan 2013 #109
I agree with you. It should be ask. nt Claybrains Jan 2013 #113
I didn't say it should be. It's what the law states, CT hysteria to the contrary. freshwest Jan 2013 #114
ok ok for christ's sake. I see your point. jeez Claybrains Jan 2013 #120
What made you say slippery slope? It sounded like you were against gun control. freshwest Jan 2013 #121
Easy Trigger, I read the thread and picked the term from there. Claybrains Jan 2013 #122
I know how to interpret tbis. I have experience in the field. So... DevonRex Jan 2013 #115
Thank you. Thus the ACA, etc. is not a tool to go after gun owners. EOM. freshwest Jan 2013 #116
EO is probably the only option. Dr_Scholl Jan 2013 #87
executive order =/= law. n/t D23MIURG23 Jan 2013 #89
The sooner the better, to stem all this absurd & obscene hoarding & stockpiling of guns ~nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #91
When does Dumbass Gun Nut 1776 begin? jpak Jan 2013 #94
When it does, I know I'll be glad we have the NDAA. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #101
When they run out of Cheetos! freshwest Jan 2013 #117
the man has guts... actslikeacarrot Jan 2013 #97
The threat or execution of an "Executive Order" is going to feed the paranoia ....big time. n/t L0oniX Jan 2013 #98
To Hell With The 2nd Amendment Red Sox Jan 2013 #105
mmhmm RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #106
And a fond farewell billh58 Jan 2013 #111
Then, of course that will take a constitution convention Great Caesars Ghost Jan 2013 #112
And then him and Biden would be impeached, and rightfully so Ter Jan 2013 #119
Someone tell me Skyline Jan 2013 #123
I believe that billh58 Jan 2013 #124
We certainly hope that you billh58 Jan 2013 #125
good for Biden to say that samsingh Jan 2013 #126
good for Biden to say that samsingh Jan 2013 #126
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