Reply #42

In the discussion thread: Barry Bonds Not Elected To Hall of Fame [View all]

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:59 PM

42. Rose is much worse IMHO.

What Rose did cuts to the heart of the game and anybody's ability to believe in it. By betting while managing, he could directly manipulate the outcome. He might swing it one way or the other without even realizing it.
I am no fan of steroid users. However, they still have to have a modicum of talent to hit the ball. In addition, the outcome they can consistently produce is not guaranteed.
Rose couldn't guarantee an outcome, but with the ability to move and/ or remove players, he could really affect it.

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66 replies	Author	Time	Post
Barry Bonds Not Elected To Hall of Fame [View all]	erpowers	Jan 2013	OP
Disgusting.	KatyMan	Jan 2013	#1
The players?	Tempest	Jan 2013	#5
Well, those writers	KatyMan	Jan 2013	#18
Doubt is not proof	Tempest	Jan 2013	#21
Why not Bagwell?	KatyMan	Jan 2013	#25
It was more like a big fat HELL NO!	Tempest	Jan 2013	#2
"I'm probably in the minority, but...."	klook	Jan 2013	#29
Can you imagine The Babe on steroids?	Tempest	Jan 2013	#33
he could have set those records if he just layed off the party lifestyle!	frylock	Jan 2013	#35
He used to eat hotdogs in the damn dugout!	MADem	Jan 2013	#39
LOL, really	klook	Jan 2013	#43
The NIT pre-dates the NCAA	Jimbo S	Jan 2013	#65
Ah, thanks -- I was mis-remembering my hoops history	klook	Jan 2013	#66
1996 was the last year no one was inducted....	a kennedy	Jan 2013	#3
Asterisk* nt	longship	Jan 2013	#4
Was Pete Rose on the ballot?	Brother Buzz	Jan 2013	#6
IMO what Pete Rose did is far less objectionable than cheating on the game by using steroids n/t	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#8
I don't disagree	Brother Buzz	Jan 2013	#9
Really?	trumad	Jan 2013	#10
Agree with you here, it's intolerable. nt	rivegauche	Jan 2013	#16
No evidence he threw games	Tempest	Jan 2013	#23
There is plenty of evidence that he bet on his own team.	trumad	Jan 2013	#31
Once again...	Tempest	Jan 2013	#34
LOL---	trumad	Jan 2013	#44
He only admitted to betting on his own team to win	groundloop	Jan 2013	#37
He admitted after years of denial...	trumad	Jan 2013	#46
I never said he has credibility, I don't even like him	groundloop	Jan 2013	#60
So he bets a lot when he lets them lose. And he bets a little when he helps them win.	El Supremo	Jan 2013	#49
Bet ON is fine--bet AGAINST would be a problem... nt	MADem	Jan 2013	#40
There's evidence he bet for is team, not against it.	jeff47	Jan 2013	#41
Wow---you guys just don't get it.	trumad	Jan 2013	#48
No, I'm not saying that at all	jeff47	Jan 2013	#55
How do you know he didn't bet against his team?	trumad	Jan 2013	#59
Same reason I know he hasn't murdered anyone	jeff47	Jan 2013	#61
And no has produced any evidence that he hasn't.	trumad	Jan 2013	#62
Rose is much worse IMHO.	Are_grits_groceries	Jan 2013	#42
I'm stunned that some don't get it.	trumad	Jan 2013	#50
Easy solution to the Rose conundrum	KamaAina	Jan 2013	#15
He wouldn't be a member as a manager because he wasn't a HoF manager anyway.	hughee99	Jan 2013	#32
At some point he will be off that list.	Renew Deal	Jan 2013	#17
When he dies, he'll join a larger list of permanently ineligible players	Brother Buzz	Jan 2013	#27
Barry Bonds had a cloud over his head WHILE he was becoming famous.	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#7
Yawn ... it's a freaking children's game	relayerbob	Jan 2013	#11
The Freakin' Olympics	ellisonz	Jan 2013	#20
no, it's a men's game played by children..	frylock	Jan 2013	#36
No Big Deal	BlueManFan	Jan 2013	#12
BALCO BALCO BALCO BALCO BALCO BALCO	BlueManFan	Jan 2013	#13
All of them could be in the 'Roids Hall of Shame.	rivegauche	Jan 2013	#14
Babe Ruth's Vices...	Sophiegirl	Jan 2013	#19
Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, Cap Anson...	KatyMan	Jan 2013	#22
Hot dogs, beer and women. n/t	Tempest	Jan 2013	#24
I like what Lewis Black said: forget the performance enhancing drugs...	Initech	Jan 2013	#28
Yeah....the downfall of many ML players. nt	Sophiegirl	Jan 2013	#30
Excellent, fuck the sterioud abusers.	Initech	Jan 2013	#26
I think this was	Jenoch	Jan 2013	#38
A long as you get 5% of the vote each year, you remain on the ballot for 15 years. n/t	FSogol	Jan 2013	#45
I choose not to do roids when playing Triple A. Many other players did.	WhoWoodaKnew	Jan 2013	#47
why in the hell did`t they elect other players?	madrchsod	Jan 2013	#51
I seem to remember this...	AsahinaKimi	Jan 2013	#52
Get ready to throw your peanuts and Cracker Jacks at me...	Kalidurga	Jan 2013	#53
It's an disadvantage to players trying to make the team that choose not to use.	WhoWoodaKnew	Jan 2013	#63
*Good n/t	Pachamama	Jan 2013	#54
Yes it is.	840high	Jan 2013	#56
Good.	AngryOldDem	Jan 2013	#57
who the hell cares	dembotoz	Jan 2013	#58
Roids or not, Bonds is a first ballot.	MrSlayer	Jan 2013	#64

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