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I have no sympathy for them Major Nikon Jan 2013 #1
Am not a nurse and for years I didn't take the flu shot. But when I hit 62 I started taking southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #4
Actually the CDC now recommends it for everyone, unless the person is allergic to the vaccine still_one Jan 2013 #103
I think if you are in a medical field you should get it. Especially if they work in hospitals. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #104
They have a new vax for those allergic to eggs obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #110
Then no one should be allowed in the hospital without proof of having received a flu shot snappyturtle Jan 2013 #5
When I was working which was a long time ago Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #14
I am in hospitals regularly to see parishoners.. noel711 Jan 2013 #144
Actually some hospitals are banning children to try and keep it under control cstanleytech Jan 2013 #17
That's Norovirus - winter vomiting virus intaglio Jan 2013 #51
My apologies that was the wrong link cstanleytech Jan 2013 #52
That would be an excellent point for any of the 8 nurses' attorneys to explore. pacalo Jan 2013 #20
It's actually not that good a point. Nurses are hovering over patients 24/7. Visitors and doctors... Moonwalk Jan 2013 #105
Exactly. HuckleB Jan 2013 #116
I was looking at it from the nurses' point of view. pacalo Jan 2013 #122
Did you get a three-day flu or did you get a virus that laid you out flat for months... Moonwalk Jan 2013 #140
The heavy congestion & achiness lasted two weeks. pacalo Jan 2013 #146
Fine by me, but you should read up on the influenza virus of 1918. It's why we have... Moonwalk Jan 2013 #187
I will read it. pacalo Jan 2013 #196
Thats incorrect. FlowerGurl Jan 2013 #154
It should include any employees who have access to patient rooms Major Nikon Jan 2013 #37
Absolutely...dietary aides, housekeeping, etc. nt snappyturtle Jan 2013 #46
It did include the entire 26,000? people who worked at that complex. Sunlei Jan 2013 #77
wrong- from the article "Of the hospital's 26,000 employees statewide, 95 percent complied... Beaverhausen Jan 2013 #121
I bet the 1,300 finally complied rather than be fired. Sunlei Jan 2013 #195
It does obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #81
not even close. Do visitors deal with patients everyday? This is not only to protect the hospital still_one Jan 2013 #106
Idiotic tabasco Jan 2013 #212
I agree as a retired nurse Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #13
As a nurse, I agree with you. Butterbean Jan 2013 #202
Unvaccinated workers wear protective gear including masks Gormy Cuss Jan 2013 #32
The hospital has very little control or responsibility for family members Major Nikon Jan 2013 #65
I'm just reporting what my nurse friends have told me. Gormy Cuss Jan 2013 #123
What would be wrong with the hospital giving the nurses a suspension? FarPoint Jan 2013 #62
It's true that viruses and bacteria are little, wee things, but as Shakespeare said... Hekate Jan 2013 #95
You make no sense at all. FarPoint Jan 2013 #125
Quote: "What is wrong with folks who want to sack people for the little things?" Hekate Jan 2013 #128
Nurses are more in danger from the patients than the other way around. eilen Jan 2013 #132
Fantastic points. FarPoint Jan 2013 #149
I could not agree more!! SkyDaddy7 Jan 2013 #64
+1 question everything Jan 2013 #87
I'm a retired 840high Jan 2013 #101
Why do you hate people having autonomy over their bodies? SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #141
Why do you hate old people and babies that get the flu while in the hospital? Major Nikon Jan 2013 #148
Disease is spread mostly by touch, not whether one is sick or not. And even then SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #170
I'd rather have both Major Nikon Jan 2013 #181
At what point are you willing to make a person sacrifice their bodily autonomy for SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #184
The point at which it places other lives at danger isn't a bad place to start Major Nikon Jan 2013 #188
Well, that is nonsenical. I place lives in danger every time I get in my SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #189
And you are highly regulated in that activity Major Nikon Jan 2013 #191
No, it is more sore than "makes me angry when I try to work out" - it is sore enough SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #193
What you are describing sounds much more like a side effect reaction Major Nikon Jan 2013 #194
I wonder if the nasal vaccine would be better for you. People coming to work sick makes me uppityperson Jan 2013 #150
I haven't been sick in years :) SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #167
Newsflash... FlowerGurl Jan 2013 #157
That goes hand in hand (pardon the pun) with possible flu exposure Major Nikon Jan 2013 #162
Hand washing Compliance FlowerGurl Jan 2013 #175
I'm not disputing this Major Nikon Jan 2013 #180
Newsflash #2 tabasco Jan 2013 #213
The noose is rapidly closing in on the collective neck of health freedom in America, lunasun Jan 2013 #2
Mary Mallon had the same employment problems. nt msanthrope Jan 2013 #3
I see what you did there. alphafemale Jan 2013 #11
Subtle...eh? nt msanthrope Jan 2013 #22
If Mary had washed her hands (or better, washed her hands and wore gloves) SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #143
"Her body, her choice" as some people say Confusious Jan 2013 #156
The person who makes your sandwich should have the freedom to not wash their hands. alphafemale Jan 2013 #15
The phlegm costs extra, like pesto mayonnaise. Scootaloo Jan 2013 #56
Well don't join the military Peregrine Jan 2013 #47
I feel for the Nurses...but Macoy51 Jan 2013 #109
Nobody is hampering their freedom to decide Scootaloo Jan 2013 #55
Yes, what will be next? Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #68
Some people say ... GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #117
Freedom... Nitram Jan 2013 #69
So they stay home, as they would if they had a cold or any other communicable illness. Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #72
most virus including the flu are contagious before symptoms. Sunlei Jan 2013 #79
And getting a shot is no 2naSalit Jan 2013 #129
You Are Raining RobinA Jan 2013 #142
Well darn it all to kingdom come! 2naSalit Jan 2013 #199
The flu shot is not a guarantee that you're not going to get the flu lunasun Jan 2013 #88
So...this flu shot is a guarantee? FarPoint Jan 2013 #126
No one is forcing her to work there. She is free to borrow $20k from her parents and kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #134
How stupid. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #6
Daughter says they must take vaccine or wear masks. efhmc Jan 2013 #7
Yes, those who say no to the vaccine must wear protective clothing. Gormy Cuss Jan 2013 #34
Medical professionals should know that they cannot get the flu from a flu shot Danmel Jan 2013 #8
I wish the obviously sick grocery packer who packed my groceries this evening snappyturtle Jan 2013 #10
I'm sure the sick grocery packer would have liked to have stayed home too.. AmyDeLune Jan 2013 #26
It can be devastating to me too if I miss 3 days of work due to contact with her. Where snappyturtle Jan 2013 #43
Where does it end?.. awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #54
This is all speculation and assumption. FarPoint Jan 2013 #70
And the assumption that if you get a flu shot you will not get the flu!!!! lunasun Jan 2013 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Jan 2013 #119
Wear a mask. (?) snappyturtle Jan 2013 #124
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Jan 2013 #130
That is ridiculous eilen Jan 2013 #133
Management may not allow her to work even with a mask and masks only work for a short uppityperson Jan 2013 #153
Well, I hope the masks work for a long time eilen Jan 2013 #223
Some do. The ordinary cheap ones do not though. uppityperson Jan 2013 #224
Ever worked in a grocery store? Sherman A1 Jan 2013 #198
But if they stay home, the do not get paid. RC Jan 2013 #160
+1000 - when I taught 6th grade, I got sick every other week b/c the kids were sent to school sick wordpix Jan 2013 #161
Do some information seeking before you pass judgment. FlowerGurl Jan 2013 #164
Lying there in the hospital in a weakened state, immune system compromised, infant or oldster... Hekate Jan 2013 #9
Critical Care Unit obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #59
Science?? RobinA Jan 2013 #91
Oh, please. A century of hard research is not enough for you? Hekate Jan 2013 #92
I've Read That Book RobinA Jan 2013 #107
Well you can lead a horse to water... Hekate Jan 2013 #108
A large portion of people in our State got the shot and still got the flu. The flu glinda Jan 2013 #12
It takes a while for the flu shot to build up the immunity. If you have the shot and Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #16
He got it way way early. glinda Jan 2013 #30
Thanks. He has a chest infection and so far no pneumonia. Knock on wood. glinda Jan 2013 #31
I'll be sending him the good vibes. Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #39
Thanks! He needs it! glinda Jan 2013 #41
I have an ER DOC friend on Chicago's south side. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2013 #45
Three years ago I got the flu after getting a flu shot for the first time. pacalo Jan 2013 #23
The "3-day flu" and influenza are not the same virus, according to my doctor Hekate Jan 2013 #25
You are absolutely correct......... mrmpa Jan 2013 #29
I got the so-called "Hong Kong Flu" in December, 1968 The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2013 #33
You are right: that is classic influenza and it can kill. I'm currently reading... Hekate Jan 2013 #38
It is an amazing book, isn't it? nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #40
That's a great book obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #61
100% correct obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #60
influenza is caused by a VIRUS Carolina Jan 2013 #63
I know that obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #67
I had a friend die of swine flu Marrah_G Jan 2013 #168
If you don't cough for a couple weeks, it probably was not influenza uppityperson Jan 2013 #155
No. They already had the flu virus ... Deep13 Jan 2013 #28
I have a right to be the next typhoid Mary! Deep13 Jan 2013 #18
Efficacy of current flu vaccines questioned Celebration Jan 2013 #19
Outrage Killer!!! RobinA Jan 2013 #93
What religion lets you be a nurse but not take a shot? McCamy Taylor Jan 2013 #21
The problem for the Hospital is this nurse was permitted NOT to take the vaccine for 21 years. happyslug Jan 2013 #24
Thanks for this information Carolina Jan 2013 #66
I wouldn't expect any civil rights case to go very far Major Nikon Jan 2013 #197
I had influenza once dflprincess Jan 2013 #27
The flu VIRUS doesn't understand democracy.... ReRe Jan 2013 #35
Very well said. The last bout of influenza I had I ended up with pneumonitis... Hekate Jan 2013 #42
my mom has advanced Alzheimer's & home health aides coming & going 24/7, along with me who works wordpix Jan 2013 #36
You are very lucky ReRe Jan 2013 #44
we use the gloves but the masks are a great idea - they'd probably scare her, though wordpix Jan 2013 #159
Yeah, that might not be a good idea, i.e. the mask. Don't do mask if it scares her. ReRe Jan 2013 #163
similar to my Mom at home /w family care 24/7. Was routine, her Dr. always gave the flu vaccine. Sunlei Jan 2013 #76
I haven't taken mom for flu vaccine, and she hasn't had flu for 5 yrs. with Alzheimer's wordpix Jan 2013 #158
same with my Mom never sick except for that horrid Alzheimers. Sunlei Jan 2013 #190
you can get the flu from the Mona Jan 2013 #48
More vaccine myth repeated - please provide sources csziggy Jan 2013 #86
yes, you can get... Mona Jan 2013 #98
Provide sources for your claims csziggy Jan 2013 #99
No, you cannot obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #112
This site tends to have a kneejerk reaction to nurses eilen Jan 2013 #137
Stopped using mercury - "in most vaccines." OhZone Jan 2013 #147
Oh jesus christ Confusious Jan 2013 #165
The unsubstantiated claim was that aluminum was used in live flu vaccines csziggy Jan 2013 #174
Maybe it's harmful or maybe it's not - OhZone Jan 2013 #217
Do you have a link to that claim? csziggy Jan 2013 #218
Easily google-able! OhZone Jan 2013 #227
You cannot get the flu from the vax obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #111
May their convictions towards their own personal choices find them well in their next career(s)... Earth_First Jan 2013 #49
Several years ago, I worked in a hospital in which employees were told to take flu shots. AdHocSolver Jan 2013 #50
You see tama Jan 2013 #57
The very essence of this story. CanSocDem Jan 2013 #82
Touche RobinA Jan 2013 #96
I agree FlowerGurl Jan 2013 #172
These are medical workers intaglio Jan 2013 #53
She should have been fired obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #58
Seems to me you can pass along the germs MissMillie Jan 2013 #71
Yes RobinA Jan 2013 #97
Good. (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #73
Who's the big pharmas making bank on flu shots anyway? Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #74
No one "makes bank" on flu shots obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #80
+1 HuckleB Jan 2013 #115
3% of what pharma makes is from ALL vaccines Confusious Jan 2013 #166
People with flu are contagious BEFORE they have flu symptoms. Sunlei Jan 2013 #75
I worked for an accounting firm revolution breeze Jan 2013 #78
How would she make her patients sick roody Jan 2013 #83
People with flu are contagious before showing symptoms nt craychek Jan 2013 #84
By the time you know you have the flu, it's too late obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #113
I get my flu shot every year with no complaints. Jennicut Jan 2013 #85
Efficacy of Flu Vaccine RobinA Jan 2013 #90
What do you do for a living? snooper2 Jan 2013 #94
lol obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #114
CDC recommends the vaccine Confusious Jan 2013 #169
It Does Seem RobinA Jan 2013 #204
Well I think the claim of side effects Confusious Jan 2013 #207
By My Dictionary RobinA Jan 2013 #215
I'm an RN. . . BigDemVoter Jan 2013 #100
At least in California if a healthcare person who deals with patients does not take the flu vaccine, still_one Jan 2013 #102
My mandatory flu vaccine did a great job this year. ileus Jan 2013 #118
I have never had either one of them. A flu shot or the flu itself. CBGLuthier Jan 2013 #120
Anyone working in a medical setting should get vaccinated Samurai_Writer Jan 2013 #127
Hospital employees without flu shots are all potential Typhoid Marys. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #131
I get the flu shot every year now. Especially since that new strain cropped up that kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #135
I had flu vaccine and have been sick 3 times since Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2013 #136
I wonder how high on the pay scale and close to retirement these nurses were. nt eilen Jan 2013 #138
Mandatory Flu Vaccines for Healthcare Workers – Why one man chose the mask lovuian Jan 2013 #139
A nurse that gets a flu shot but does not wash his or her hands is far more SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #145
Bullshit Confusious Jan 2013 #171
No, bullshit SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #173
The flu is spread by touch, not by breathing. Confusious Jan 2013 #176
Who stands close to a couching or sneezing person? If you do that I guess you are asking to get sick SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #178
Most infections Confusious Jan 2013 #179
CAN spread up to 6 feet, but unlikely. And again, you have to be sick (so you should stay home if SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #182
So you have problems reading? Confusious Jan 2013 #183
No, do you have problems reading? It says surfaces less often. It does not say SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #185
Jesus Fing Christ Confusious Jan 2013 #186
You can be contagious up to 7 days Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #203
every fly in a plane or go to the store? you are exposed and close to sick people & share the air. Sunlei Jan 2013 #192
So what? That's a total moot point. WestCoastLib Jan 2013 #225
I have no sympathy for them. One of my friends almost died from influenza this week. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #151
Hey, hospitals are not hiring someone if they are a nicotine user on their own time. What is the Purveyor Jan 2013 #152
this reminds me..i get a free shot from medicare madrchsod Jan 2013 #177
Taking the flu vaccine would have little effect on passing the disease to someone else. AdHocSolver Jan 2013 #200
Contracting the flu when you are already sick enough to be hospitalized can be appleannie1 Jan 2013 #201
My best friend mimi85 Jan 2013 #205
So would unionization have made better safety standards? alp227 Jan 2013 #206
A flu vaccine is not a guarantee that one won't get the flu lovuian Jan 2013 #208
You have the inalienable right to think on your own, Trillo Jan 2013 #209
All it would take jrandom421 Jan 2013 #210
There is no evidence that vaccinating healthcare workers prevents flu in elderly patients. Prometheus Bound Jan 2013 #211
No sympathy here. AngryOldDem Jan 2013 #214
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I'd take the HepB vaccine sharp_stick Jan 2013 #219
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You want to do as much as you can to protect Lars39 Jan 2013 #220
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No sympathy here either. matt819 Jan 2013 #226
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