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44. I'm of the "school" of thought that the problem is psychological

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 02:05 AM

Jan 2013

and actions such as these compound an already mentally ill nation's problems. The irony is that we should be using our brains to resolve these issues and school is where your brain is supposed to become enlightened. Instead we let fear rule the day and put forth the message that violence is the way. It's a self perpetuating paradoxical problem. It's truly sad to see teachers embracing it. It doesn't send the right message in light of the 20 children's deaths at Sandy Hook. Those kids deserved better than this from our teachers.

The problem is similar to the death penalty. Truly civilized people do not sanction killing. The message people get is that killing is ok because the state sanctions it. We should be aiming so much higher than we currently are. Lady Liberty is closer to Medusa these days.

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‘Armed Teacher Training Program’ Launches In 15 States [View all] Redfairen Jan 2013 OP

The stupidity of our nation sometimes astounds me. eom Cleita Jan 2013 #1

Too sad for words, too dumb an idea for words too. n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #2

It's ok. There may be thirty or so children in the room, but they're small targets. nt onehandle Jan 2013 #3

Women in high schools BeyondGeography Jan 2013 #4

Exactly. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #12

That seems a very sexist comment. Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #29

actually, that comment isn't so far off. The ones you speak about are soldiers roguevalley Jan 2013 #32

I still disagree Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #34

Teachers are just people reteachinwi Jan 2013 #36

I agree Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #40

Not really sexist TM99 Jan 2013 #35

Don't tell reteachinwi Jan 2013 #38

Anyone can be taken if they are not prepared. bemildred Jan 2013 #46

I totally agree it is a bad idea Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #64

Well, yeah, but we men do need to be careful how we handle women, most of us. bemildred Jan 2013 #67

How many 50, 60, HockeyMom Jan 2013 #50

My beef was that being a woman was singled out Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #65

Hopefully they can also learn martial arts marshall Jan 2013 #55

Use of a firearm for self-defense IS a martial art slackmaster Jan 2013 #56

I hope they do not have to have weapons in school period. nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #66

man! heaven05 Jan 2013 #5

Money talks. Anyone else see a connection between Big War and the gun nuts? grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #6

Teh stupid, it burns. tavalon Jan 2013 #7

Armed guards, or in the case of our district, trained sworn officers, makes some sense. mbperrin Jan 2013 #8

Don't regret quitting HockeyMom Jan 2013 #10

If they do that here, I'll be out front protesting. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #9

I would want to know if any teacher madmom Jan 2013 #11

I know teachers who are licensed carriers. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #13

Imagine the liability when they drop their weapon, and they will. jtuck004 Jan 2013 #18

That's exactly my first thought proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #20

Look at what they do for a grade. Imagine the effort for a gun. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2013 #22

As a TA, I wouldn't work with a teacher who is armed HockeyMom Jan 2013 #68

A gun in every situation Reio88 Jan 2013 #14

Just wonderful. Left Coast2020 Jan 2013 #15

If they're like Korean cops they don't need them jmowreader Jan 2013 #45

Whats your curriculum and NRA score ? Reio88 Jan 2013 #16

PREDICTION: Nothing will happen. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #17

Good point rightsideout Jan 2013 #30

Only one school in Texas allows it. N/T GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #39

Well said primavera Jan 2013 #48

Stop making sense. slackmaster Jan 2013 #33

The End Of America Has Arrived - Repeal The Second Amendment cantbeserious Jan 2013 #19

Which country should I move to now? Spain maybe, or Peru? Coyotl Jan 2013 #21

I just want to cry ladym55 Jan 2013 #23

This plan has no chance of working Lifelong Protester Jan 2013 #24

How about a pre-school teacher who is unarmed but has been trained in how to disarm a gunman? slackmaster Jan 2013 #57

If teacher have to be cops/soldiers/Rambo in addition to all of their teaching duties... NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #25

Can the non-carry teachers demand a separate lounge? I would think their odds of dying jtuck004 Jan 2013 #26

of course rickford66 Jan 2013 #27

You have been watching too many old, bad, movies. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #37

Not quite that simple. yellowcanine Jan 2013 #52

Beats being delusional. Within the past couple years I can remember people dying jtuck004 Jan 2013 #69

That makes 15 states that I wouldn't send my kid to school in. JeffHead Jan 2013 #28

There's a right way and a wrong way to discharge a weapon in a classroom... hay rick Jan 2013 #31

super teachers are already there in every classroom icarusxat Jan 2013 #41

Hopefully Iwillnevergiveup Jan 2013 #42

The first comment by El Cid at the end of the article Iwillnevergiveup Jan 2013 #43

I'm of the "school" of thought that the problem is psychological go west young man Jan 2013 #44

And here's what our 5-year olds can see when then enter kindergarten. sinkingfeeling Jan 2013 #47

So what will they do with their guns? yellowcanine Jan 2013 #49

The mind-set, tactics, and other aspects of self-defense training are more important than the weapon slackmaster Jan 2013 #54

Meh. Nothing wrong with the course, and no school boards will really approve anything Recursion Jan 2013 #51

This is good news. Learning ANY mode of self-defense is helpful to anyone. slackmaster Jan 2013 #53

You are assuming that these schools springing up are going to have legitimate programs for yellowcanine Jan 2013 #60

The thinkprogress article is as usual short on specifics, but examples I've seen in other sources... slackmaster Jan 2013 #61

"...all appear to be established training programs." Of course they do. yellowcanine Jan 2013 #63

I would also note that "situational awareness" for a classroom teacher yellowcanine Jan 2013 #62

NC gun center overwhelmed after offering free gun training for teachers hack89 Jan 2013 #58

Krav Maga training would be very appropriate training for them slackmaster Jan 2013 #59