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Kelvin Mace

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54. And what would you do with your guns?

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 02:02 AM

Dec 2012

When the government decides to get you, how will you stop it? You and the whole family can be armed to the teeth with every assault rifle you can find and hundreds of thousands of rounds and it will do nothing to stop the Hellfire missiles that the drones will use to reduce you and your house to rubble and gore.

Newsflash: Guns don't prevent police states when people willingly sacrifice all their liberty for a false sense of security afforded them by guns.

The police state is fact, and has been since the "Patriot Act". All the guns you can eat didn't do a damn thing to thwart it.

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Revealed: how the FBI coordinated the crackdown on Occupy [View all] votesparks Dec 2012 OP

Deeply troubling Berlum Dec 2012 #1

Now would be a great time for us to give up all our guns, no? appal_jack Dec 2012 #43

And what would you do with your guns? Kelvin Mace Dec 2012 #54

Well, that escalated quickly... appal_jack Dec 2012 #69

Wow, did you misread me Kelvin Mace Dec 2012 #72

+1000 Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #58

Is anyone surprised by this? hobbit709 Dec 2012 #2

Maybe a better question is votesparks Dec 2012 #3

Nope sakabatou Dec 2012 #37

Not at all. pacalo Dec 2012 #41

Exactly! It's all about keeping the masses under control in a failing society. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #51

American Republic is Falling Apart: Suppression is Answered by Mass-Killings pcbynature Dec 2012 #79

I'm surprised that it was Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #63

what a waste of our money limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #4

Says something about "We the People" Magoo48 Dec 2012 #70

Can we call it Fascism yet? zeemike Dec 2012 #5

I totally agree with you. SoapBox Dec 2012 #6

Bush's "Free Speech Zones" ought to have been enough. Funny, certain infringements on our freedom Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #7

The so called fascists masquerading as "libertarians". Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #44

Nor the Democrats, apparently. Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #64

True, but yes, the Rs still get the lion's share of blame. By dragging the center so far Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #73

Way past knee-deep in pure classical Fascism imo: ye will know them by their works indepat Dec 2012 #16

Yes, we can. Cleita Dec 2012 #31

Where was the Obama Administration in this? votesparks Dec 2012 #8

Well you see, they were busy coordinating it all... Earth_First Dec 2012 #66

That was one part. LisaLynne Dec 2012 #9

Anyone surprised to see the foreign press outdoing our beloved MSM? Bozita Dec 2012 #10

Didn't read this article, but I read about FBI surveillance some days or a week ago in US media. nt reACTIONary Dec 2012 #19

What's new is the direct involvement of the banks. snot Dec 2012 #23

OK, so I read the article... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #36

The coordinated, nationwide evictions were not aimed at preventing violence or vandalism, snot Dec 2012 #42

If the issue is sharing information with the banks... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #45

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #59

We live in a fascist state. There are no two ways about it. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #11

If this much has surfaced, one can only wonder what is behind the redactions. DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #12

Wolf traffics in tinfoil hattery and pals around with Alex Jones Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 #13

Total FAIL: Ad Hominem attack. (definition) grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #14

once she starts hanging with the troofers and the birthers, her credibility is questionable Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 #15

Don't think so from her "creds"....N/T KoKo Dec 2012 #17

Total fail on the part of the person claiming Wolf's a hack bec. there was no federal coordination! snot Dec 2012 #24

FAIL. You're still attacking her, not her present arguments. grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #76

There is another type of fallacy, however: Argument from a questionable source... Moonwalk Dec 2012 #35

There's real evidence here creeksneakers2 Dec 2012 #56

you summed it up well - it's the old 'footnotes' defense Coulter uses Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 #57

Wrong. The source is the FBI documents from FOIA request. JackRiddler Dec 2012 #84

Sorry, but I've read Naomi Wolf for years. Fuddnik Dec 2012 #21

Well, you might want to do some research on her "brave truth teller" Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 #39

really? Pharaoh Dec 2012 #28

TOTAL WIN: This is the first article by her I have read... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #48

The FBI is revealed to be doing their real job. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #18

Good start, but may i recommend ? nolabels Dec 2012 #34

No problem, I understand what you mean. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #38

Umm, the last few hundred years? reACTIONary Dec 2012 #49

I agree GliderGuider Dec 2012 #55

Thanks for the reply... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #71

Rawls wasn't familiar to me - thanks. nt GliderGuider Dec 2012 #77

Yes, indeed AverageJoe Dec 2012 #74

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #20

K&R'd!!! And glad she points out: snot Dec 2012 #22

k/r Solly Mack Dec 2012 #25

There are eight international banks that are in charge of everything plethoro Dec 2012 #26

Of course libodem Dec 2012 #27

Ok this ticks me off Who does the FBI and SEC work for? THE BANKS! or for America lovuian Dec 2012 #29

Many of our agencies including the military have worked for corporate interests Cleita Dec 2012 #33

As we busily and forthrightly rearrange the deck chairs salib Dec 2012 #30

this is`t anything new madrchsod Dec 2012 #32

The move towards Fascism will ultimately fail Stewland Dec 2012 #40

Occupy kind of caved in on itself. Zax2me Dec 2012 #46

Sounds to me like you side with the FBI and police and not with Occupy. Whose side are you one? nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #53

probably on the side of effective organizing Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 #61

Ahh yes. They should have been better organized and protested where the oligarchs told them. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #67

Sure, the FBI attacked OWS because they were poor organizers. JackRiddler Dec 2012 #86

Remember all the denial at DU about coordination against OWS? PufPuf23 Dec 2012 #47

hell yes i remember that frylock Dec 2012 #50

and it was completely justified Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 #52

These documents prove what Wolf said was true. Prometheus Bound Dec 2012 #68

CTists, Truthers, paranoids... Octafish Dec 2012 #80

And also happen to be correct. randome Dec 2012 #81

You mean, apart from the part where the FBI ignored threats to assassinate OWS leaders? Octafish Dec 2012 #82

Read DailyKos' take on it. From Prosense's link in another thread. randome Dec 2012 #83

This is from a government that just allowed terrorists to skate. JackRiddler Dec 2012 #85

Nowhere in these documents does it characterize OWS as a criminal threat. randome Dec 2012 #87

If this were true, that only makes things worse with the crackdown JackRiddler Jan 2013 #88

It's sad. OWS still trying to justify their ineptitude. Blame it on "the government". Tarheel_Dem Dec 2012 #60

. Berlum Dec 2012 #65

The FBI and DHS. Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #62

So much easier than organizers had it in 1900. Maybe 'cause they didn't pose so jtuck004 Dec 2012 #75

kr Norrin Radd Dec 2012 #78