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heaven05

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28. I'm

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:22 PM

Dec 2012

not comfortable with this type of info given to the general public. I don't 'feel' this is right. If criminals could be outed like this, which of course they can't, I would be okay with that. But law abiding citizens should not have this info put out, because someone will try to rob them and if successful, another stolen weapon, in the wrong hands, will be on the streets. Not good.

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New York Journal News Publishes Gun Owners' Names In Westchester, Rockland Counties [View all] onehandle Dec 2012 OP

I agree at this point. If they owned dangerous wildlife like tigers and such, they'd have to kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #1

These are pistol permits customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #16

If anything, it's the other way around. harmonicon Dec 2012 #35

+1000 Tom Ripley Dec 2012 #110

That's only because customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #125

That's only because human beings are smarter than ducks, rabbits, pigs, or whatever?! harmonicon Dec 2012 #129

All I'm trying to say customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #134

Well, no. harmonicon Dec 2012 #136

I agree. It was also a violation of privacy Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #78

It's an easy roadmap for burglars customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #126

The other possibility with doing this... naaman fletcher Dec 2012 #39

Exercising their first amendment rights Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #2

Did they need a "permit" to exercise that right? - or any other except the 2nd? askeptic Dec 2012 #117

I certainly am all for public records of gun owners. wanttosavetheplanet Dec 2012 #3

the North Coast Journal in Humboldt Co CA did that in 2008.... mike_c Dec 2012 #4

Has anyone here thought of the possibility for a criminal to use WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2012 #5

OMG! Who would have ever imagined that homes might contain things worth stealing!? onehandle Dec 2012 #6

Bury them... ReRe Dec 2012 #10

The problem of firearms being stolen from a home WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2012 #13

my friend is detective on city PD. He never worked a breakin or invasion of a dog owner pasto76 Dec 2012 #14

Well, here's another one lolly Dec 2012 #44

Firearm thieves specialize in cracking safes. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #68

Citation, please? Orrex Dec 2012 #74

Hmmm... Does not seem too hard.... virginia mountainman Dec 2012 #80

Yikes! Orrex Dec 2012 #98

Yip ReRe Dec 2012 #8

It would be stupid if RoccoR5955 Dec 2012 #11

Thats interesting quakerboy Dec 2012 #12

Most gun safes can be cracked in 10 minutes. NutmegYankee Dec 2012 #24

You know very well that it's not for safety. harmonicon Dec 2012 #36

Increases the safety of the home when the owner is home. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #69

no more than leaving anything valuable in the house pasto76 Dec 2012 #15

A lot of them get stolen from police cars. oldbanjo Dec 2012 #20

The problem is this discourages registration BainsBane Dec 2012 #7

might be crossing the line a bit PatrynXX Dec 2012 #9

I seem to remember thirty years ago customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #17

Yeah, I am uncomfortable with this too. Chemisse Dec 2012 #23

Exactly. The DUers cheering this would be screaming bloody murder HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #26

these guns owners are NOT private information, they are public records - your comparison msongs Dec 2012 #62

Would you like your DL data published? HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #65

Have your grades or taxes ever shot anyone? alp227 Dec 2012 #77

Should those nuts screaming outside of abortion clinics be legally barred from doing so? harmonicon Dec 2012 #37

I don't suggest the newspaper should be legally prohibited from doing this. Chemisse Dec 2012 #49

What is a "responsible gun owner"? harmonicon Dec 2012 #50

This is why the NRA gets the traction that it does. Chemisse Dec 2012 #96

Ah, see, that last point is where we differ. harmonicon Dec 2012 #108

Huh? I didn't say anything about joining the NRA. Chemisse Dec 2012 #128

I didn't say anything about joining the NRA - I don't know where you got that from. harmonicon Dec 2012 #130

Pretty sure Meth wouldn't exist if drugs were decriminalized. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #70

I can't really think of many drugs that don't involve using nasty chemicals in their production. harmonicon Dec 2012 #75

Meth was developed as a workaround for prohibition perimeter controls. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #82

Exactly. harmonicon Dec 2012 #85

Eventually attrition solves that problem, in a hypothetical decriminalized society. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #89

I think that's likely true. harmonicon Dec 2012 #91

Totally agree with you there. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #106

I'm not sure that this "we're a violent culture" thing is true. harmonicon Dec 2012 #111

Go natural, avoid the nasty chemicals and the industrialized drugs... Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #120

It's not just the end product that will involve harsh chemicals. harmonicon Dec 2012 #122

So you think having a medical condition is comparable to NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #57

The express purpose of having a handgun in one's home customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #127

The express purpose is to injure or kill. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #137

No, they're going to do whatever it takes to stop an intruder, of course customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #144

I'm new to this topic - what is ADT for...? goclark Dec 2012 #149

I can't control my health. Ruby the Liberal Dec 2012 #132

And you can't control customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #133

Isn't that just a msm variation of the cartoon below? jody Dec 2012 #18

A sign like that is an invitation to crooks as where to steal guns. Whovian Dec 2012 #21

Absolutely. Some years ago a criminal gang was discovered that used NSSA's annual report on jody Dec 2012 #22

Yep. And a once legally owned gun falls in the hands of a criminal. nt HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #30

How do guns protect you in a house burglary? lolly Dec 2012 #47

"guns get up and shoot the burglars"? Obviously NO, guns don't get up and commit a crime. jody Dec 2012 #53

Guns facilitate aggression much more readily than protection lolly Dec 2012 #103

IMO traditional crimes including that with firearms are committed by people who are different than jody Dec 2012 #107

Post addresses rebuke Dec 2012 #139

Apparently, it's already being done S_B_Jackson Dec 2012 #145

If the state of Wisconsin can publish the name of AllyCat Dec 2012 #19

Do you agree with what Wisconsin did? HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #27

Someone who holds a license for ANYTHING is subject to FOI requests. AllyCat Dec 2012 #84

I don't like this Skittles Dec 2012 #25

The people cheering this, HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #29

reminds me of the things the anti-choice folk want to do to women Skittles Dec 2012 #31

No surprise, its the same self-righteous zealotry. nt HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #33

"Self-righteous zealotry" - yes, today's DU. closeupready Dec 2012 #150

A Chinese co-worker once told me something quite profound about life in an authoritarian state slackmaster Dec 2012 #102

You wouldn't want to know if your neighbours owned killing devices? harmonicon Dec 2012 #38

I LIVE IN TEXAS Skittles Dec 2012 #40

... and? (nt) harmonicon Dec 2012 #42

they LEGALLY have guns Skittles Dec 2012 #43

Why is it dangerous? harmonicon Dec 2012 #45

sorry, no Skittles Dec 2012 #46

How is this a "rightwing fascist tactic"? harmonicon Dec 2012 #48

It was invented by the anti-abortion and anti-gay facist zealots. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #60

DU doesn't allow the posting of certain personal information, but DU isn't a newspaper. harmonicon Dec 2012 #61

Are those things licensed and legal for private citizens to own? AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #72

I think so. harmonicon Dec 2012 #76

Actually it is. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #83

Please do explain the relevance. harmonicon Dec 2012 #86

I feel differently about a person who AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #88

I don't see the difference. harmonicon Dec 2012 #90

The US Department of Justice pins the number of lawful defensive gun uses AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #105

I'm heaven05 Dec 2012 #28

And why the finger pointing if they have not done anything illegal? Chemisse Dec 2012 #32

I wonder how many of the permit holders... HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #34

Someone who wants to be knowledgable about their personal safety? harmonicon Dec 2012 #41

If your neighbor has a registered handgun, HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #51

And is my life more in danger if my neigbour doesn't own a killing device at all? harmonicon Dec 2012 #52

How the does that work? NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #58

Any ex-con with a grudge now knows where they live. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #59

Also, people who may have been living in anonymous locations to evade abusive AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #73

I can't believe they did that. Quantess Dec 2012 #54

And all the lawsuits. nt HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #55

Bad idea boomerbust Dec 2012 #56

What about a domestic violance victim, whom has been hiding from a violent ex??? virginia mountainman Dec 2012 #63

Exactly. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #66

Rebecca Shaeffer was murdered in 1989 by a stalker who got her address from the California DMV slackmaster Dec 2012 #104

Good plan. JoeyT Dec 2012 #64

Yep. This is the anti's "legitimate rape" moment... HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #67

Posts like this.. virginia mountainman Dec 2012 #71

That's a red herring of an argument if I've ever seen one. harmonicon Dec 2012 #87

Thats you, many folks, realize that the cops tend to only take reports... virginia mountainman Dec 2012 #92

Unless you're closely related to JoeyT Dec 2012 #94

How many women killed by their partners are shot? harmonicon Dec 2012 #95

So your stance is JoeyT Dec 2012 #99

My stance is that "guns!" isn't the answer to every question. harmonicon Dec 2012 #109

There are a few knives JoeyT Dec 2012 #112

The sole purpose a gun has is to kill human beings?... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #113

Yes, that is the purpose. harmonicon Dec 2012 #114

How will publicly publishing legal gun owners' info deter crime? alp227 Dec 2012 #79

Excerpt from the print article in question... alp227 Dec 2012 #81

The main database is maintained by the NY State Poilce since 1936... Historic NY Dec 2012 #93

And if one is in hiding from an abuser obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #97

Totally counter productive booley Dec 2012 #100

Here is a sample of the kinds of public information about author Dwight R. Worley that ANYONE... slackmaster Dec 2012 #101

reprehensible invasion of privacy and the cheerleaders should be ashamed of themselves Alamuti Lotus Dec 2012 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author slackmaster Dec 2012 #116

I am surprised so many DUers are in support of this! Quantess Dec 2012 #118

I'd flip that on its head. harmonicon Dec 2012 #123

A Constitutional Right does not require permission to exercise askeptic Dec 2012 #119

What about voting? harmonicon Dec 2012 #124

Good Analogy - What if they recorded your vote for public disclosure (the gun) in a database? askeptic Dec 2012 #131

Whether or not you voted already is part of the public record. harmonicon Dec 2012 #135

But not HOW - that's the analogy askeptic Dec 2012 #138

Well, no one is doing it now, are they? harmonicon Dec 2012 #143

Second Amendment, meet FIRST! malz Dec 2012 #121

May as well publish names & addresses of all receiving food-stamps and other welfare. nt jody Dec 2012 #140

My local paper in Pennsylvania did this more than 20 years ago. gauguin57 Dec 2012 #141

The newspaper simply collated publicly available information... LanternWaste Dec 2012 #142

I have no problem with this whatsoever Blasphemer Dec 2012 #146

Do you have a problem with the response? S_B_Jackson Dec 2012 #147

Not at all. This is all public information. Blasphemer Dec 2012 #153

Have you ever heard of Rebecca Shaeffer? slackmaster Dec 2012 #151

Indeed and Jodi Foster was stalked at her college campus Blasphemer Dec 2012 #152

I'm saying that gun permits and registration are bad ideas. slackmaster Dec 2012 #154

How come they didn't post a list of people with illegal guns? Remmah2 Dec 2012 #148