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Chuck Hagel apologizes for gay slur [View all] geek tragedy Dec 2012 OP
Too little oberle Dec 2012 #1
reaction from OutServe-SLDN director geek tragedy Dec 2012 #2
Good sign? Would you say that if Bush were the one about to nominate him to serve as Secretary of merrily Dec 2012 #3
It shows that the GLBT concerns were taken more seriously than the Netanyahu crowd's were. nt geek tragedy Dec 2012 #11
Hagel has not even been nominated yet. We don't know what Hagel will ultimately say about Israel. merrily Dec 2012 #35
Lots of campaign bundlers and donors not very happy with Hagel due to Israel concerns. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #39
BTW, you never answered my question. merrily Dec 2012 #37
Which one? nt geek tragedy Dec 2012 #38
I think he is a good choice, even tho a Repug elfin Dec 2012 #4
Funny how his growth on social issues did not manifest until he had his eyes on the Cabinet and merrily Dec 2012 #6
Yahbut, 14 years ago. elfin Dec 2012 #9
Cut slack here!?! Where are you going to cut slack?!? icymist Dec 2012 #14
He shouldn't get cut any slack--he should face tough questions geek tragedy Dec 2012 #15
What tough questions? merrily Dec 2012 #22
He recanted now because this is the first attention it's gotten in a long geek tragedy Dec 2012 #27
Yes, and what he did was object to having a gay man serve his country as ambassador. merrily Dec 2012 #32
He was reflecting the values of the people to whom he was accountable. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #34
No one says people don't grow. No one says people don't change parties, either. merrily Dec 2012 #36
Geithner changed his affiliation when he was in Clinton's Treasury department. nt geek tragedy Dec 2012 #40
Same difference. Just swap President's names. merrily Dec 2012 #58
I disagree. He reflected the values of some people. Every state has homophobes, even New York, merrily Dec 2012 #42
14 years ago was not 1950. And, again, he did not recant until he had a selfish motive. merrily Dec 2012 #19
Yep. Nt elfin Dec 2012 #28
and we have a winner! dlwickham Dec 2012 #18
If he did not want this nomination, I doubt he would be retracting it, even today. merrily Dec 2012 #20
I don't trust Hagel Joey Liberal Dec 2012 #5
You are not alone. I am here with you. merrily Dec 2012 #7
Do you trust him to do what Obama tells him to do? geek tragedy Dec 2012 #30
No and No. merrily Dec 2012 #43
No - he's a republican leftynyc Dec 2012 #45
He's better on some core issues than Panetta is. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #47
Really? What issues would those be? leftynyc Dec 2012 #52
Pentagon spending, for one: geek tragedy Dec 2012 #55
The President is playing right into leftynyc Dec 2012 #59
What Democrat out there would be willing to say that we need to cut geek tragedy Dec 2012 #61
Hagel didn't say it needed to leftynyc Dec 2012 #64
And to specifically answer your question on the leftynyc Dec 2012 #66
Would they want the job? Would they be willing to say "the Pentagon spends too much?" geek tragedy Dec 2012 #67
Hagel isn't a former republican leftynyc Dec 2012 #68
Bob Kerrey is a war criminal. nt geek tragedy Dec 2012 #73
How does Hagel's being a Republican give Hagel and Obama shift to the left on any issue? merrily Dec 2012 #56
Because Democrats are scared shitless to move left on defense/national security geek tragedy Dec 2012 #57
I know. I said Panetta was a Nixon Republican. And you are saying that Democrats can't be merrily Dec 2012 #60
Democrats who are unafraid to take Democratic stands on the issues would be great. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #62
Chuck Hagel JoeyT Dec 2012 #8
Anti-GLBT bigotry was sadly common back then. Paul Wellstone voted for DOMA only 2 years geek tragedy Dec 2012 #12
Back then? Are you kidding me? The 1990s were not the 1950s, for crying out loud. merrily Dec 2012 #23
Was I a homophobe 14 years ago? Probably to some degree, but certainly not to that geek tragedy Dec 2012 #29
First, my questions were not what makes him useful as Secretary of Defense. merrily Dec 2012 #48
Okay, how many Democrats with the right credentials are willing to go on the record: geek tragedy Dec 2012 #50
Well, that did not take long!!! mrdmk Dec 2012 #10
14 yrs ago, I was a religious, conservative bigot, thought gay people were sick, hellbound sinners. phleshdef Dec 2012 #13
I give him space for his social evolution. immoderate Dec 2012 #31
That doesn't bother me. He isn't hawkish. He believes the Pentagon needs cut down. phleshdef Dec 2012 #41
Well that explains where the real resistance comes from. immoderate Dec 2012 #51
Things you say freely, which Hagel does not say at all, even under current pressures: Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #77
Oh? I wonder if he'll "support" the rights of GLBT soldiers to serve openly Maven Dec 2012 #16
And will he fight for leftynyc Dec 2012 #46
I figured he would. He seemed to really lose interest in the TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #17
Are you saying that he voted against DOMA? If not, which ban on gay marriage did he vote against? merrily Dec 2012 #24
I read about it yesterday--some vote on federal gay marriage ban TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #26
Not as good as it sounds on the surface. I googled. I did not spend a lot of time because merrily Dec 2012 #54
He's a conservative from Nebraska. His votes and his TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #63
This isn't about sainthood The Wizard Dec 2012 #21
False equivalency much? merrily Dec 2012 #25
Day late, dollar short. TheOther95Percent Dec 2012 #33
Why didn't you include what he said in your OP? UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #44
Latest Breaking News forum rules limit the amount of a story you can quote geek tragedy Dec 2012 #49
I hadn't seen it. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #70
Gee, some anonymous person on the Internet is calling me a liar. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #72
I thought you were going to say UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #75
I assumed it was an honest ommission, but I also posted the quote in the thread. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #78
Fair enough. No problem with additional context. nt geek tragedy Dec 2012 #80
World's tiniest violin playing the world's saddest song. Fearless Dec 2012 #53
a 'statement' is a start but not enough! A real press conference with in depth discussion is needed Sunlei Dec 2012 #65
Too bad Tammy Baldwin didn't get a Defense Committee slot. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #71
Washington Post is outraged with Hagel claiming he will push Obama far to the left on foreign policy Douglas Carpenter Dec 2012 #69
Hi! I'm a gay bashing bigot that wants to be Defense Secretary! Let me take care of a few odds and Safetykitten Dec 2012 #74
What Hagel said was not just a 'gay slur' it was a personalized attack on an individual using his Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #76
Not gonna disagree with any of that. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #81
He still hasn't apologized to the People Who Matter Eric the Reddish Dec 2012 #79
Oh yeah, you got proof that President Obama didn't want Senator Cha Dec 2012 #83
How about nominating an openly gay Secretary of Defense? oberliner Dec 2012 #82
That is an awful thing to say.. shows pure Cha Dec 2012 #84
So far, the ambassador and Rachel Maddow agree with those who think Hagel's apology is insincere merrily Dec 2012 #85
I'll only support Hagel if he convinces my friends in the LGBT group here stevenleser Dec 2012 #86
good luck with that dlwickham Dec 2012 #88
I feel no burning need to support him stevenleser Dec 2012 #89
Still think there are plenty of better candidates out there. /nt Ash_F Dec 2012 #87
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