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In the discussion thread: Julian Assange: WikiLeaks is preparing to publish one million new secret government documents [View all]

Response to allrevvedup (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:56 PM

tama (9,137 posts)

79. Are you really denying

that Obama admin DOJ not only refused to persecute Bush admin war criminals, but also actively stopped citizen attempts to prosecute them on grounds of National Security?

Also you give (on purpose?) false testimony of Assange's politics, which fall closest in the category of pro-union social libertarian (ie. some sort of anarchist not far from Chomsky).

When Obama admin continues and enhances the war crimes and police state measures of previous admin, the blame does not "shift" but becames shared. Putting (D) after police state fascism does not make it any better and it's no excuse to stop opposing those policies. Unless...

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96 replies	Author	Time	Post
Julian Assange: WikiLeaks is preparing to publish one million new secret government documents [View all]	Judi Lynn	Dec 2012	OP
We are still waiting for his world-ending bank documents to be released.	randome	Dec 2012	#1
Even the NYT and Reuters cite Wikileaks docs as sources these days. So, this has served a useful	leveymg	Dec 2012	#2
I can only speak for myself, but I see Assange's behavior as...	CBHagman	Dec 2012	#5
I have an idea...	sendero	Dec 2012	#11
Well done sendero. +1. /nt	Festivito	Dec 2012	#13
So what. We are supposed to have a free press, except that the government hides information	JDPriestly	Dec 2012	#35
I think "supposedly progressive" is your answer...	truth2power	Dec 2012	#6
No, no, he promised to bring the world to its knees with his super-secret code files.	randome	Dec 2012	#7
On balance, I would counter, Wikileaks has done far more good than harm. It shouldn't be about	leveymg	Dec 2012	#9
I hear you.	randome	Dec 2012	#10
Beware of Villains, even more so those proclaimed Heroes. eom	leveymg	Dec 2012	#12
Agreed, leveymg. It is a shame that people have to violate the law just to get the truth out there.	JDPriestly	Dec 2012	#39
He also gravely hurt the institution of diplomacy globally by willy-nilly dumping diplomatic	stevenleser	Dec 2012	#87
Useful yes, but to whom?	allrevvedup	Dec 2012	#15
John and Deborah at Cryptome had Assange's number early on.	msanthrope	Dec 2012	#19
Thank you.	allrevvedup	Dec 2012	#21
And I marvel at the DUers who have fallen for the Right Wings propaganda machine	LiberalLovinLug	Dec 2012	#75
Right, because the only reason someone could dislike someone is based on right wing info.	stevenleser	Dec 2012	#86
No, not the only influence	LiberalLovinLug	Dec 2012	#94
Not sure what right-wing media you are monitoring.	randome	Dec 2012	#95
As I said, the potential for misuse of Wikileaks for selective leaks and disinfo is plain to anyone	leveymg	Dec 2012	#27
Yes. Again, I agree with you. But we still get some useful information. We have to be discerning	JDPriestly	Dec 2012	#40
Who is John Young again? That webpage is not very impressive.	merrily	Dec 2012	#33
He runs a site called cryptome that's basically a prototype for wikileaks.	allrevvedup	Dec 2012	#36
Daniel Domscheit-Berg stole that info and destroyed it...	Luminous Animal	Dec 2012	#68
Sorry, that sounds like an excuse.	randome	Dec 2012	#69
Okey-doke.	Luminous Animal	Dec 2012	#71
Thank you!	snot	Dec 2012	#90
Documents from which government or governments?	drm604	Dec 2012	#3
We need Geraldo to get to the bottom of this	Berlum	Dec 2012	#4
Oh, whoopie.	Chorophyll	Dec 2012	#8
Julian Assange reminds so called "reporters" and "journalists"	green for victory	Dec 2012	#14
When did he speak truth to the Bush/Cheney Admin?	allrevvedup	Dec 2012	#16
happy holidays	green for victory	Dec 2012	#17
For starters, Wikileaks chronicles criminality on the part of Bush and Cheney...	Octafish	Dec 2012	#18
"The Obama administration worked with Republicans to protect Bush administration"	allrevvedup	Dec 2012	#20
Not my idea. That's what Obama's guy recommended. You may've heard of him: Cass Sunstein	Octafish	Dec 2012	#42
So why isn't Assange releasing millions of docs on Bush's "egregious crimes"?	allrevvedup	Dec 2012	#44
Sunstein was on the short list for Supreme Court.	Octafish	Dec 2012	#48
Good ol' Glenn, finding a razor blade in every apple.	allrevvedup	Dec 2012	#52
That's one way of looking at it.	Octafish	Dec 2012	#55
Thank you again. Let me add,	snot	Dec 2012	#56
Are you really denying	tama	Dec 2012	#79
"More than 66,000 civilians suffered 'violent deaths' in Iraq	allrevvedup	Dec 2012	#24
Obama did not end the war in Iraq. He withdrew many troops by the date previously agreed to by Bush.	merrily	Dec 2012	#38
It's over. Look it up. :)	allrevvedup	Dec 2012	#41
Like Poppy, Smirko Bush is a war criminal. Iraq never hurt the United States.	Octafish	Dec 2012	#46
Fine, then where's the beef on Bushler? This stupid bs is about Obama.	allrevvedup	Dec 2012	#47
The ''king of snakes, Glenn Greenwald.''	Octafish	Dec 2012	#50
A link to the Guardian? Save it.	allrevvedup	Dec 2012	#53
The Guardian is a pro-democratic newspaper.	Octafish	Dec 2012	#54
Was.	allrevvedup	Dec 2012	#57
Glenn Greenwald is a spook?	green for victory	Dec 2012	#64
I absolutely loved that tv series!	TorchTheWitch	Dec 2012	#88
Here's my guess:	OnyxCollie	Dec 2012	#58
Thank you!	snot	Dec 2012	#51
Anytime, snot! Why does this matter? Well...	Octafish	Dec 2012	#60
Octafish, you rule; thank you for all of that.	snot	Dec 2012	#89
'Chronicles' implies an organized goal.	randome	Dec 2012	#59
To me, 'Chronicles' means 'Record'...	Octafish	Dec 2012	#73
Interesting about Iceland and Kenya	treestar	Dec 2012	#23
Apparently wikileaks helped "liberate" Iceland's banks	allrevvedup	Dec 2012	#26
You aware	tama	Dec 2012	#81
How did Wikileaks destabilize Iceland and Kenya?	leveymg	Dec 2012	#28
Whoops, meant to put #31 about Iceland here.	allrevvedup	Dec 2012	#34
Over 5000 cables from the US Embassy in Israel.	Luminous Animal	Dec 2012	#67
Thnx. In the initial batch released, there were none.	leveymg	Dec 2012	#80
He's not a reporter	treestar	Dec 2012	#22
Wikileaks released docs that brought down Iceland's biggest bank	allrevvedup	Dec 2012	#31
kicked	green for victory	Dec 2012	#45
Well, good news for London banksters rarely trickles down to us.	allrevvedup	Dec 2012	#49
Not much interest in the LIBOR scandal	tama	Dec 2012	#82
Ha ha ha! Ask DU economists how they view this situation!	snot	Dec 2012	#62
Thanks. Most of us don't know about high finance and the games played in their court.	freshwest	Dec 2012	#76
Yes, there has been an effect for sure	Bragi	Dec 2012	#32
The video was the only thing they had that could be interpreted	treestar	Dec 2012	#63
Wikileaks partnered with news media around the word because sorting through the volume of	Luminous Animal	Dec 2012	#66
K&R. nt	OnyxCollie	Dec 2012	#25
Judi Lynn, I'm not a fan of Mr. Assange. His data dumping, without	saidsimplesimon	Dec 2012	#29
Assange was far from safe in an embassy when Assange first published the material Manning allegedly	merrily	Dec 2012	#30
merrily, I'm not a qualified psychiatrist. I can only speculate that	saidsimplesimon	Dec 2012	#37
Decide what?	merrily	Dec 2012	#43
+1000.	snot	Dec 2012	#91
Good. Dump it all so people can realize what's being done in their names	Catherina	Dec 2012	#61
They can't possibly have reviewed 1 million documents. So this translates to...	randome	Dec 2012	#65
At Least Julian Assange & Bradley Manning Got the Door Ajar	triplepoint	Dec 2012	#70
The Moody Blues were my inspirational favorite band as a teenager.	randome	Dec 2012	#72
Astounding how many DUers are derailed by the Cult of Personality	LiberalLovinLug	Dec 2012	#74
Agreed.	freshwest	Dec 2012	#77
And yet castigating those of us with different opinions is '...willing subjugation...'	randome	Dec 2012	#78
Thanks for the armchair diagnosis	LiberalLovinLug	Dec 2012	#93
If you look carefully	tama	Dec 2012	#83
Interesting post	dreamnightwind	Dec 2012	#84
The cult of personality works both ways...	AntiFascist	Dec 2012	#85
That's what LiberalLovinLug said.	JackRiddler	Dec 2012	#92
LOL! Awesome! nt	Zorra	Dec 2012	#96

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