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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:25 PM

TwilightGardener (39,696 posts)

26. I read about it yesterday--some vote on federal gay marriage ban

in 2006. Voted against it, said it should be left up to states--I think it was reported in Buzzfeed.

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89 replies	Author	Time	Post
Chuck Hagel apologizes for gay slur [View all]	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	OP
Too little	oberle	Dec 2012	#1
reaction from OutServe-SLDN director	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#2
Good sign? Would you say that if Bush were the one about to nominate him to serve as Secretary of	merrily	Dec 2012	#3
It shows that the GLBT concerns were taken more seriously than the Netanyahu crowd's were. nt	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#11
Hagel has not even been nominated yet. We don't know what Hagel will ultimately say about Israel.	merrily	Dec 2012	#35
Lots of campaign bundlers and donors not very happy with Hagel due to Israel concerns.	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#39
BTW, you never answered my question.	merrily	Dec 2012	#37
Which one? nt	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#38
I think he is a good choice, even tho a Repug	elfin	Dec 2012	#4
Funny how his growth on social issues did not manifest until he had his eyes on the Cabinet and	merrily	Dec 2012	#6
Yahbut, 14 years ago.	elfin	Dec 2012	#9
Cut slack here!?! Where are you going to cut slack?!?	icymist	Dec 2012	#14
He shouldn't get cut any slack--he should face tough questions	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#15
What tough questions?	merrily	Dec 2012	#22
He recanted now because this is the first attention it's gotten in a long	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#27
Yes, and what he did was object to having a gay man serve his country as ambassador.	merrily	Dec 2012	#32
He was reflecting the values of the people to whom he was accountable.	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#34
No one says people don't grow. No one says people don't change parties, either.	merrily	Dec 2012	#36
Geithner changed his affiliation when he was in Clinton's Treasury department. nt	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#40
Same difference. Just swap President's names.	merrily	Dec 2012	#58
I disagree. He reflected the values of some people. Every state has homophobes, even New York,	merrily	Dec 2012	#42
14 years ago was not 1950. And, again, he did not recant until he had a selfish motive.	merrily	Dec 2012	#19
Yep. Nt	elfin	Dec 2012	#28
and we have a winner!	dlwickham	Dec 2012	#18
If he did not want this nomination, I doubt he would be retracting it, even today.	merrily	Dec 2012	#20
I don't trust Hagel	Joey Liberal	Dec 2012	#5
You are not alone. I am here with you.	merrily	Dec 2012	#7
Do you trust him to do what Obama tells him to do?	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#30
No and No.	merrily	Dec 2012	#43
No - he's a republican	leftynyc	Dec 2012	#45
He's better on some core issues than Panetta is.	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#47
Really? What issues would those be?	leftynyc	Dec 2012	#52
Pentagon spending, for one:	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#55
The President is playing right into	leftynyc	Dec 2012	#59
What Democrat out there would be willing to say that we need to cut	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#61
Hagel didn't say it needed to	leftynyc	Dec 2012	#64
And to specifically answer your question on the	leftynyc	Dec 2012	#66
Would they want the job? Would they be willing to say "the Pentagon spends too much?"	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#67
Hagel isn't a former republican	leftynyc	Dec 2012	#68
Bob Kerrey is a war criminal. nt	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#73
How does Hagel's being a Republican give Hagel and Obama shift to the left on any issue?	merrily	Dec 2012	#56
Because Democrats are scared shitless to move left on defense/national security	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#57
I know. I said Panetta was a Nixon Republican. And you are saying that Democrats can't be	merrily	Dec 2012	#60
Democrats who are unafraid to take Democratic stands on the issues would be great.	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#62
Chuck Hagel	JoeyT	Dec 2012	#8
Anti-GLBT bigotry was sadly common back then. Paul Wellstone voted for DOMA only 2 years	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#12
Back then? Are you kidding me? The 1990s were not the 1950s, for crying out loud.	merrily	Dec 2012	#23
Was I a homophobe 14 years ago? Probably to some degree, but certainly not to that	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#29
First, my questions were not what makes him useful as Secretary of Defense.	merrily	Dec 2012	#48
Okay, how many Democrats with the right credentials are willing to go on the record:	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#50
Well, that did not take long!!!	mrdmk	Dec 2012	#10
14 yrs ago, I was a religious, conservative bigot, thought gay people were sick, hellbound sinners.	phleshdef	Dec 2012	#13
I give him space for his social evolution.	immoderate	Dec 2012	#31
That doesn't bother me. He isn't hawkish. He believes the Pentagon needs cut down.	phleshdef	Dec 2012	#41
Well that explains where the real resistance comes from.	immoderate	Dec 2012	#51
Things you say freely, which Hagel does not say at all, even under current pressures:	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2012	#77
Oh? I wonder if he'll "support" the rights of GLBT soldiers to serve openly	Maven	Dec 2012	#16
And will he fight for	leftynyc	Dec 2012	#46
I figured he would. He seemed to really lose interest in the	TwilightGardener	Dec 2012	#17
Are you saying that he voted against DOMA? If not, which ban on gay marriage did he vote against?	merrily	Dec 2012	#24
I read about it yesterday--some vote on federal gay marriage ban	TwilightGardener	Dec 2012	#26
Not as good as it sounds on the surface. I googled. I did not spend a lot of time because	merrily	Dec 2012	#54
He's a conservative from Nebraska. His votes and his	TwilightGardener	Dec 2012	#63
This isn't about sainthood	The Wizard	Dec 2012	#21
False equivalency much?	merrily	Dec 2012	#25
Day late, dollar short.	TheOther95Percent	Dec 2012	#33
Why didn't you include what he said in your OP?	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#44
Latest Breaking News forum rules limit the amount of a story you can quote	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#49
I hadn't seen it.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#70
Gee, some anonymous person on the Internet is calling me a liar.	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#72
I thought you were going to say	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#75
I assumed it was an honest ommission, but I also posted the quote in the thread.	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2012	#78
Fair enough. No problem with additional context. nt	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#80
World's tiniest violin playing the world's saddest song.	Fearless	Dec 2012	#53
a 'statement' is a start but not enough! A real press conference with in depth discussion is needed	Sunlei	Dec 2012	#65
Too bad Tammy Baldwin didn't get a Defense Committee slot.	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#71
Washington Post is outraged with Hagel claiming he will push Obama far to the left on foreign policy	Douglas Carpenter	Dec 2012	#69
Hi! I'm a gay bashing bigot that wants to be Defense Secretary! Let me take care of a few odds and	Safetykitten	Dec 2012	#74
What Hagel said was not just a 'gay slur' it was a personalized attack on an individual using his	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2012	#76
Not gonna disagree with any of that.	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#81
He still hasn't apologized to the People Who Matter	Eric the Reddish	Dec 2012	#79
Oh yeah, you got proof that President Obama didn't want Senator	Cha	Dec 2012	#83
How about nominating an openly gay Secretary of Defense?	oberliner	Dec 2012	#82
That is an awful thing to say.. shows pure	Cha	Dec 2012	#84
So far, the ambassador and Rachel Maddow agree with those who think Hagel's apology is insincere	merrily	Dec 2012	#85
I'll only support Hagel if he convinces my friends in the LGBT group here	stevenleser	Dec 2012	#86
good luck with that	dlwickham	Dec 2012	#88
I feel no burning need to support him	stevenleser	Dec 2012	#89
Still think there are plenty of better candidates out there. /nt	Ash_F	Dec 2012	#87

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