Adam Lanza Shot Victims at Close Range with Semi-Automatic Rifle

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140. Restricting the argument

An average person cannot fire 3 round

and ignoring my statement

Try it yourself. The stitch counter is just to demonstrate that the finger can squeeze as fast as required. The part with the gun is to show that all else is a matter of hand strength and conditioning to recoil.

Because for you to admit what I say is right weakens the gun industry pabulum you constantly regurgitate.

I have heard of the "bump-fire" method, but haven't seen it done

Ever looked on You Tube? There are even ATF approved mods for AR style rifles that are, essentially, bump fire; there was one posted on this site recently that "boasted" 10 rounds per second and fully controllable

There is also quick-fire artists who can empty, reload, and empty old-fashioned style revolvers in just a few seconds.

I believe you will find that these "quick fire artists" are operating in very limited conditions, do not aim and that over, say, 3 reloads they still average only one round per second.

I don't think those are the type of situation we are dealing with in mass-shootings.

I didn't say it was

What I am not saying is that the killer fired that fast, just that weapons of that type can fire very rapidly compared to a bolt action weapon. This ability together with the 30 round magazine and his choice of victim facilitated the killer's extraordinary "competence" in slaughter (27 dead but only 2 wounded).

All indications are that these mass shooters aren't long-time gun owners, nor do they have years of regular practice at a range.

Firstly why are you using the words "long term"? It smells like another gun industry approved grammatical niggle. Young shooters are hardly likely to be "long term" owners or practicioners because of their age. The murderer at Sandy Hook was not a "long term" gun owner - except he had long term access to these weapons and certainly did not have what you would term "years of regular practise". This sort of sophistry is typical of the talking points used to distract from the need for gun control.

They all appear to have a deteriorating mental state

Captain Obvious is obvious, or do you think normal humans go round shooting kids?

but because they have no prior record they are able to easily acquire guns, because mental health database is poor

Yet you do not see this as an argument for proper training, assessment and licensing - r-i-i-ght. Your idea is that the mental health records of all persons seeking to be gun owners be examined by your local Walmart gun sales person. Do you think the medical records of all women who want to use birth control should also be examined by the pharmacist?

In most cases, the shooter has no intention of surviving the attack

I'd say you were claiming telepathic powers - except that this statement is just another talking point marketed by the gun manufacturers.

In that sense, they are like suicide terrorists, though the motive is personal rather than political or religious

Evidence based or just your unsupported opinion? The fact that terrorists operate from a supportive environment of other terrorists who assist in the production of their preferred method of slaughter has not even entered your head.

Like terrorists, they will use whatever weapons they can acquire, that will cause the greatest deaths. We can ban guns, but would they not then use IEDs, car-bombs, poison gas, or some other means?

In general, no. People with these mental issues do not plan long term. A few might try to use a car to run into a crowd but that is a damn sight more difficult than shooting a gun