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HooptieWagon

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41. I understand your points, and agree with most of them.

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:59 AM

Dec 2012

However, the school's responsibility extends beyond only Adam Lanza. They are tasked with the safety and education of several hundred other students, and to support their teachers to do the best job they can. If they thought it better for Adam to be in a different environment, there likely were many factors involved in that decision. Did mother even seek outside opinion?

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School gunman Adam Lanza may have snapped over fears mother was going to send him to psychiatric... [View all] slackmaster Dec 2012 OP

the similar stories I read said he thought his mom loved the kids more than him Bacchus4.0 Dec 2012 #1

Nancy Lanza had no connection to this school and neither did her son. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #5

No you are incorrect- Adam attended the school for at least 3 years SoCalDemGrrl Dec 2012 #79

I give up. Earlier report said no, but USA shows he was there part of 5th grade at least. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #91

This is a believeable motive. southerncrone Dec 2012 #2

It might be believable, but I don't see any evidence that it's based on reality. LisaL Dec 2012 #39

Have we seen or heard much of anything based on reality on this event? southerncrone Dec 2012 #40

i think people are trying to find some kind of "rational" explanation for this TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #83

The amount of conjecture by the media on this subject is absurd. dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #3

It's a Murdoch owned rag that's specializes in tabloid style news Major Nikon Dec 2012 #4

Curiously dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #6

Ugh - the writing style is abominable. nt cyberswede Dec 2012 #25

I noticed that too. Too colloquial. The Stranger Dec 2012 #70

I cannot fathom the cluelessness of working to commit someone on the one hand and letting them kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #7

Why do you assume that she let him have access to her "dangerous toys?" ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #8

If he was able to break in, it was a crappy, cheap safe and she still bears responsibility. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #9

You might be surprised ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #13

Gun safes that aren't basically bomb-proof need to be prohibited. If somebody can break in, they kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #14

They certainly need to be marketed more clearly, in my opinion... ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #22

California DOJ approval sir pball Dec 2012 #84

I think that you need to research that further n/t ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #92

I doubt he had to break in Shankapotomus Dec 2012 #17

Then why pay a lot of money for them? treestar Dec 2012 #58

I imagine it's a couple of factors ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #67

If he was as smart as people claimed he was NickB79 Dec 2012 #47

Yes- I second that for sure SoCalDemGrrl Dec 2012 #80

The brother said that she took them shooting. oldbanjo Dec 2012 #11

Sounds like a controlled environment ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #12

He got them and shot her in bed while she slept - I think that qualifies as "access without kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #15

I can't believe she would even have them in the house. undeterred Dec 2012 #20

That's what I've been asking myself since I read this story. AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #18

Its one of those situations where extended family should have said something. undeterred Dec 2012 #21

Yes- agreed- mentally unstable son - DITCH THE GUNS!!! SoCalDemGrrl Dec 2012 #81

Being a 'prepper' and all, she wasn't too stable, herself, it seems. n/t ronnie624 Dec 2012 #29

Blood Thristy?? He was mentally ill for godsake .. YOHABLO Dec 2012 #10

That term stood out for me too. Chemisse Dec 2012 #16

It's the New York Post. n/t AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #19

^^^Yep. Crappy Murdoch rag.^^^ Squinch Dec 2012 #23

Also on FOX / my theory anobserver2 Dec 2012 #24

We don't know the dispute between the mother and school, HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #26

Re my theory and your response - I think you missed the point about mother's battle with school boar anobserver2 Dec 2012 #27

Well, I'm no expert. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #33

I agree; a lot more info is needed on what was going on in the school situation with him anobserver2 Dec 2012 #49

I agree that removing him from school HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #61

Yes, but read my post #56 anobserver2 Dec 2012 #62

This is a very good analysis of the possible situation and with the diagnosis of autism SoCalDemGrrl Dec 2012 #82

Thanks and also see posts #63 and #66 anobserver2 Dec 2012 #88

trust me, there are a lot of parents who want their kids in honors and AP classes who do not belong wordpix Dec 2012 #96

He was on honor roll according to news reports anobserver2 Dec 2012 #97

It's a theory Scairp Dec 2012 #28

I real answers are out there anobserver2 Dec 2012 #31

I don't believe the school would do that aroach Dec 2012 #30

It's different everywhere anobserver2 Dec 2012 #32

It could be that he was just non-violently disruptive. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #36

Well, no one ever said he was disruptive anobserver2 Dec 2012 #38

I understand your points, and agree with most of them. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #41

Maybe she did but it wouldn't matter to a school board in terms of their policies anobserver2 Dec 2012 #52

Speaking as a mother of two children who receive services.... AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #44

Thank you for this post - I think you speak for many parents in what you are saying here anobserver2 Dec 2012 #50

It is also on Huffpost: janx Dec 2012 #68

FOX TV News reported it tonight, too anobserver2 Dec 2012 #71

I have nothing but anger and contempt for Nancy Lanza. She didn't get rid of the GUNS!! Dems to Win Dec 2012 #34

But about her background? anobserver2 Dec 2012 #35

It's really crazy and counter-human to be 'comfortable' with guns. Dems to Win Dec 2012 #37

there are lots of private schools that could have taken Lanza wordpix Dec 2012 #98

I wondered about that, too anobserver2 Dec 2012 #101

Guns are not toys. FYI xoom Dec 2012 #48

They have that role for some possessors of guns treestar Dec 2012 #60

Well said Disgraceland Dec 2012 #55

I can't believe you guys are attacking the mother---she is a victim in this too. Shilo Dec 2012 #42

I would blame the father too Scairp Dec 2012 #43

Since when do you need a Sig Sauer, Glock, and a Bushmaster for protection? AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #45

Thank you. Myrina Dec 2012 #54

She took him target shooting union_maid Dec 2012 #46

Because she knew he needed to be committed and still didn't secure guns away from him? treestar Dec 2012 #59

I don't know why, but I am obsessed latebloomer Dec 2012 #51

"Bloodthirsty Child Killer" C'mon ... Myrina Dec 2012 #53

Re "messsed up" -- From research on students with asperbergers and public education needs anobserver2 Dec 2012 #56

In addition to changes re guns, I think more change is also needed at the public education level anobserver2 Dec 2012 #57

NPR: Removal Of Asperger's To Change Special Ed Access anobserver2 Dec 2012 #63

Thank you for pointing that out. DSM-V was finalized very recently. slackmaster Dec 2012 #64

you're welcome - and maybe it was expulsion he faced at that time, 2007 anobserver2 Dec 2012 #66

I always thought that Asperger's was highly functioning autism. janx Dec 2012 #69

The difference is that it is a neurological problem, not a mental disorder as previously thought anobserver2 Dec 2012 #72

So putting him in a psychiatric ward was the "right" thing to do AT THAT TIME in 2007 anobserver2 Dec 2012 #65

Clearly having a condtion on the autism spectrum was NOT Adam Lanza's only problem slackmaster Dec 2012 #73

Well, obviously that's true - other problems existed, too anobserver2 Dec 2012 #74

Also - so many parents have these issues to deal with anobserver2 Dec 2012 #75

How accepting & condoning we have become over rumor in lieu of factual and confirmed "news". mother earth Dec 2012 #76

I think law enforcement is still searching for a motive anobserver2 Dec 2012 #77

Oh please, law enforcement is capable of much more, it's the journalism that sucks. Gossip, plain & mother earth Dec 2012 #86

Sometimes rumors turn out to be true. slackmaster Dec 2012 #78

Yeah, except RUMORS should not be presented as an objective piece of journalism, aka the "news". mother earth Dec 2012 #85

"But there are people who really need to be committed" Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #87

I think you make good points anobserver2 Dec 2012 #89

Thank you. This is the conversation we all need to begin to have. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #90

I totally agree with you -- but others do not anobserver2 Dec 2012 #94

P.s. From NYTimes: "Police Dept. to Use Internet to Try to Stop Mass Shootings" anobserver2 Dec 2012 #95

Sorry, but this is such BS, when they pay zero attention to online purchases of gobs of ammo & mother earth Dec 2012 #102

where are people committed TO these days? All the "insane asylums" in my state are gone wordpix Dec 2012 #99

very sad situation -- and good question anobserver2 Dec 2012 #100

New York Post is a RW rag oberliner Dec 2012 #93