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Pab Sungenis

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17. Last week I would have thought that the Court would hold with the "keys to the safe" theory.

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:22 AM

Jan 2012

But, also, last week I would have thought that the ruling in the GPS tracking case would be 5-4 at best, not unanimous.

Has there ever been a case where the court compelled someone to translate writing that they had done in code? That would be a better parallel than the keys to a safe.

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Ruling could force Americans to decrypt laptops [View all] Kablooie Jan 2012 OP

What if she says that she can't remember the key? Fool Count Jan 2012 #1

my guess would be yes... like if a reporter can't "remember" his/her source Tunkamerica Jan 2012 #2

Except a key is much easier to forget. caseymoz Jan 2012 #27

NDAA? The slippery slope. RKP5637 Jan 2012 #3

If they can tell the last time she accessed the drive hack89 Jan 2012 #38

Reminds me of a story I heard on the news limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #4

This nation is headed there ... RKP5637 Jan 2012 #6

Rec for this very important post - TBF Jan 2012 #5

Over in Freeperland they express the same outrage. Kablooie Jan 2012 #7

Yes - this has been very dangerous for dems to press on this TBF Jan 2012 #22

Even if only war spending ended, and first amendment issues were fixed, and pot were legalized, crikkett Jan 2012 #39

The problem is that all the other stuff would happen to under Paul - TBF Jan 2012 #43

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #45

Due to the strength of the MIC I don't think Paul would be able to cut the military, TBF Jan 2012 #48

Excellent point - can't allow Social Security to be privatized under Paul or anyone. crikkett Jan 2012 #52

Really? I see SS as headed for the chopping block TBF Jan 2012 #53

Yes, I do too, Obama made reference to it in the SOTU tonight dreamnightwind Jan 2012 #64

He's been saying it since his first SOTU - TBF Jan 2012 #65

Ron Paul Athena66 Jan 2012 #57

Very good point. nt TBF Jan 2012 #60

Except when comes to religion, gays and family planning. MidwestTransplant Jan 2012 #29

I suspect it won't stand zipplewrath Jan 2012 #8

They compare it to handing over the keys to a safe. Kablooie Jan 2012 #13

Last week I would have thought that the Court would hold with the "keys to the safe" theory. Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #17

Good points suffragette Jan 2012 #31

You can zipplewrath Jan 2012 #18

Seems a combination to a safe is an accurate analogy. Kablooie Jan 2012 #19

Well to take it further though they "can" crack the safe open cstanleytech Jan 2012 #20

Because it's material. caseymoz Jan 2012 #30

Except the safe protects something material, not just ideas. caseymoz Jan 2012 #28

More like 'force you to translate a text into another language'. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #40

Bingo. Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #46

That's why I keep anything truly incriminating in the most secure location ever. hobbit709 Jan 2012 #9

A nice baseball bat can crack that easily. Kablooie Jan 2012 #10

But it destroys the data at the same time. hobbit709 Jan 2012 #11

But you still might get a home run. Kablooie Jan 2012 #12

Ah, but they're getting very good with MRI's now. caseymoz Jan 2012 #32

Need two passwords bakpakr Jan 2012 #14

Won't work ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #25

They'll say it's destroying evidence, then. caseymoz Jan 2012 #33

But you can do encryption within encryption. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #41

A better idea is to use a layered encryption tool like Truecrypt. Xithras Jan 2012 #63

HIPAA greymattermom Jan 2012 #15

They'd ignore it Sgent Jan 2012 #37

Gotta read the whole article, where... TreasonousBastard Jan 2012 #16

ah yes, another appointee by moron* comes back to haunt us. nt Javaman Jan 2012 #21

Damn people; greiner3 Jan 2012 #23

Secret partitions are fairly easy to find ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #26

If it's governed by warrant, I can see the argument. phantom power Jan 2012 #24

Forget storing data on the hard drive. RC Jan 2012 #34

Micro SD cards now go up to 64 GBytes FarCenter Jan 2012 #35

Sometimes better yet, for that very reason. RC Jan 2012 #36

Pay attention, 007: Wi-Fi cufflinks perfect for a spy FarCenter Jan 2012 #50

How many of us even have shirts suitable for a tie? RC Jan 2012 #51

When making my annual Christmas trip to the mall, I saw some French cuff shirts FarCenter Jan 2012 #66

Why go to all that trouble? Kablooie Jan 2012 #44

"I forgot." nt bemildred Jan 2012 #42

That's gonna be appealed. n/t TygrBright Jan 2012 #47

They can pry my 'key' from my cold dead hands... BadtotheboneBob Jan 2012 #49

Well I "find and conclude" a2liberal Jan 2012 #54

Just call it what it is..."A POLICE STATE" leenick1 Jan 2012 #55

I forgot my password ThoughtCriminal Jan 2012 #56

They'll just Athena66 Jan 2012 #58

Was computer in obvious recent use? localroger Jan 2012 #59

What if there IS something incriminating on the laptop? Fearless Jan 2012 #61

what part of 'not forced to incriminate oneself' does fucknut not understand? Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #62