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In reply to the discussion: Breaking: 2 Killed, 1 Injured by Man Armed with Rifle at Mall Near Portland (20-60 Shots Reported) [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)239. Oh well, so much for *that* alert:
JURY RESULTS
A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:12 PM, and voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT ALONE.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Lighten up, Francis. If you choose today to defend your gun rights, you get what you deserve.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Other than the salutation, the post is okay.....
And I found the post this is responding to even more offensive.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Given the emotion condition of most of us now I offer the poster the opportunity to apologize for their name calling and angry accusations. If we do not figure how to get along without "outing" each other how do we expect the world at large to strive for some sanity.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: Over the top!
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: I would have left it if they'd said the poster's ideas promoted a culture where babies can be mass murdered. Calling the other member an actual "baby killer" is over the top.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: It's a little abusive, then again, you are advocating for a gun culture despite what keeps happening over and over again. Maybe you need this kind of language to wake up.
A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:12 PM, and voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT ALONE.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Lighten up, Francis. If you choose today to defend your gun rights, you get what you deserve.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Other than the salutation, the post is okay.....
And I found the post this is responding to even more offensive.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Given the emotion condition of most of us now I offer the poster the opportunity to apologize for their name calling and angry accusations. If we do not figure how to get along without "outing" each other how do we expect the world at large to strive for some sanity.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: Over the top!
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: I would have left it if they'd said the poster's ideas promoted a culture where babies can be mass murdered. Calling the other member an actual "baby killer" is over the top.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: It's a little abusive, then again, you are advocating for a gun culture despite what keeps happening over and over again. Maybe you need this kind of language to wake up.
I guess everyone that objects to mandatory breathalyzer interlocks installed in every
car is advocating for drunk driving culture.
I have another idea- why don't we examine why people do these horrible things, instead
of concentrating on what they do them with?
Do we blame "explosives culture" or "gasoline culture" for these?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_fire
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Breaking: 2 Killed, 1 Injured by Man Armed with Rifle at Mall Near Portland (20-60 Shots Reported) [View all]
Hissyspit
Dec 2012
OP
A sign forbidding guns, a law against carrying in public, or a law against shooting people...
TPaine7
Dec 2012
#28
Intellectual dishonesty and the mouths of morons have probably killed more people than guns.
Remmah2
Dec 2012
#150
I couldn't help noticing it took some other men with "toys" to neutralize the attacking guy...
pop topcan
Dec 2012
#244
Thinking about it, this whole "GUNS & FREEDOM" religion pushed by the right is a SCAM.
alp227
Dec 2012
#76
Kids 7 and 11 threaten woman with loaded gun in neighboring multnomah county.. days apart.
fun n serious
Dec 2012
#114
Jamaica instituted a total ban a few years ago. It is drowning in gun violence as we pontificate.
pop topcan
Dec 2012
#245
Suspect on the loose after shots fired at Clackamas Town Center kgw.com - 7 minutes ago A masked gun
Coyotl
Dec 2012
#10
I live really close to this mall. The helicopters are out and so are the sirens
neverforget
Dec 2012
#12
The crime rate tracks the proportion of young adult males in the population. Nt.
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2012
#131
The point being that regulating, for example, high capacity magazines
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2012
#144
Gee, what if half the mall was carrying and a total fire fight broke out
ItsTheMediaStupid
Dec 2012
#53
Everyone who advocates that more people carrying firearms would have
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#188
Perhaps you can give us a real-world example or 2, instead of Hollywood ones...
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#211
Well, let's see. Ask any vet who's been in a real live fire-fight, where
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#218
Surely you can come up with a real-world example. There are +/- 8 million permit holders...
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#224
Holy fuck. Vile fucking bigotry against non-criminals certainly seems to be the order of the day.
PavePusher
Dec 2012
#243
You have the blood of at least 20 children on your hands. I hope you're
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#240
Yep, just as you have the broken souls of child porn victims on yours.
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#242
Chosen, and dispatched to the scene: see #87. Typical NRA bullshit being spewed
apocalypsehow
Dec 2012
#100
I doubt the NRA runs the FBI, as they are the ones that confirming the declining violent crime rates
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#118
I note you do not dispute the accuracy of that, instead choosing to carp about the messenger.
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#170
When the "messenger" is peddling a right-wing NRA line on a progressive, Democratic
apocalypsehow
Dec 2012
#179
And the swarm is on! #7 in this thread, late to the scene but making up for it with
apocalypsehow
Dec 2012
#189
Someone has to contrast the antigun ideologues that got here first and almost always do.
beevul
Dec 2012
#197
Translation: "someone has to get the NRA's side of the message out there!!!11"
apocalypsehow
Dec 2012
#198
Does your worldview allow that theres a such thing as a non-nra pro gun position?
beevul
Dec 2012
#204
"is it simply that anyone thats pro-gun-rights is an an nra stooge?" - well said.
apocalypsehow
Dec 2012
#206
Doubtful: think Eric Hoffer's "The True Believer", or Richard J. Hofstadter's...
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#209
Actually, they got their facts from the FBI-anyone can, at their website
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#212
I don't blame you in the least: it's a crying shame we have to put with right-wing NRA talking
apocalypsehow
Dec 2012
#191
Facts are derailing the Two Minutes' Hate, and we can't have that...
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#172
Disagreeing with you about gun policy is not a "two minutes hate," sport:
apocalypsehow
Dec 2012
#176
You blame the NRA; you bash gun owners that had nothing to do with this horrible case...
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#203
"there's one problem with...your opponents...RW plants" - FIFY. Yep. n/t.
apocalypsehow
Dec 2012
#208
There are a couple books you should read- they might strike a chord with you.
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#210
"You might not be getting the glorious, gun-free future you envision" - Sure I am: so is the entire
apocalypsehow
Dec 2012
#214
"What a beautiful world it will be; what a glorious time to be free..."
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#216
Interesting; I never knew the validity of an argument depended upon...
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#225
You'll get many fine explanations, most of them consisting of finely-woven bullshit.
apocalypsehow
Dec 2012
#98
Just heard the shooter has been neutralized from the police spokesman on CNN...
TPaine7
Dec 2012
#25
Portland Local News: - Suspect 'neutralized' after deadly shooting at Clackamas Town Center
Coyotl
Dec 2012
#27
Did anyone see Jon Stewart last nite? He asked WHEN is the right time to talk about Gun Control??
jillan
Dec 2012
#40
Gee, a mall full of people and nobody had another gun to shoot-it-out??111!!!!1
riderinthestorm
Dec 2012
#63
Yes, in Kennesaw. I lived there for about 5 years. All homeowners are required to have a gun.
RebelOne
Dec 2012
#83
I've had it. I'VE HAD IT. I wish we would enact the strictest gun laws in the WORLD.
nolabear
Dec 2012
#64
You know what would have prevented this? More people shooting wildly into a crowded area.
name not needed
Dec 2012
#68
They will not interfere as long as gun violence is at historic lows and declining.
hack89
Dec 2012
#88
Go for it, culture warrior! Demonize a large chunk of the voting population!
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#117
Except, they haven't: the Democratic Party controls the White House and the Senate.
apocalypsehow
Dec 2012
#124
And that explains why gun control was so prominent in the campaign ... oh wait.
hack89
Dec 2012
#166
Keep cutting and pasting your own posts, they're quite convincing...
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#173
I note you do not dispute the accuracy of that, instead choosing to carp about the messenger.
apocalypsehow
Dec 2012
#175
A quick review of the "rules" about when it's okay to discuss gun policy might be in order:
TygrBright
Dec 2012
#85
I live in Clackamas County, actually really close to this mall. This county is a swing county
neverforget
Dec 2012
#97
Maybe when everyone is armed all the time these sorts of incidents will taper off
Fumesucker
Dec 2012
#126
I read somewhere the gun jammed after 50-60? shots. The shooter ran off into a store.
Sunlei
Dec 2012
#213
How you figure that? Maybe he was just a bad shot and if he was limited to a 10 round magazine
doc03
Dec 2012
#162
They're always concerned about nomenclature. Such obfuscation helps protect their access to guns.
Hoyt
Dec 2012
#154
I can only imagine that in their last moments of life, the victims were comforted
LanternWaste
Dec 2012
#169
No, Hawkeye, Green Arrow, and Robin Hood are the patron saints of the arrow.
Agnosticsherbet
Dec 2012
#181