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In the discussion thread: Obama says he'd be seen as moderate Republican in 1980s [View all]

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:50 PM

cosmicone (3,379 posts)

33. Why are we bashing Obama here?

A moderate republican in the 80's was not a severely bad thing. Many of them could have been seen as democrats. They were pro-choice, for gun control, supported unions, were for equality and social justice. Many republicans voted for Medicare and Affirmative Action as well as the Civil Rights Act. On the other hand, we had democrats in the 80's who would be considered hard right by today's test.

Give Obama a break!

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117 replies	Author	Time	Post
Obama says he'd be seen as moderate Republican in 1980s [View all]	kpete	Dec 2012	OP
Obama channels Cornel West	Enrique	Dec 2012	#1
Yes sir, he did indeed vindicate Dr West	me b zola	Dec 2012	#2
Exactly!	Wind Dancer	Dec 2012	#18
I hear you.	Phlem	Mar 6	#115
Does this mean he should be banned from DU?	dogman	Dec 2012	#3
"DU needs to work together to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans..." - DU TOS	grahamhgreen	Dec 2012	#7
More like Grayson, Warren, and Sherod Brown etc etc etc	think	Dec 2012	#13
And his civil liberties stances would be	adieu	Dec 2012	#4
That's about right	Flatpicker	Dec 2012	#23
Pro-gay marriage, repealing DADT, equal pay for women, pro-choice all the way...	phleshdef	Dec 2012	#59
Not exactly	JonLP24	Dec 2012	#62
FDR did worse.	phleshdef	Dec 2012	#63
Pro off shore drilling and drilling in Alaska.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#79
Wolves no longer protected.	NCarolinawoman	Dec 2012	#95
Oh yeah.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#96
Which has fuck all to do with civil liberties. You are attempting to argue like a Republican now...	phleshdef	Dec 2012	#99
You're the one who changed the subject.	enlightenment	Dec 2012	#101
Um no I didn't. Learn how to read a thread.	phleshdef	Dec 2012	#108
You don't remember Republicans chanting	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#102
Yes, and the problem is we voted for a progressive Democrat! Government is the people, and	grahamhgreen	Dec 2012	#5
yes!	Ed Suspicious	Dec 2012	#26
... some of us see him as a Moderate Republican NOW.	Myrina	Dec 2012	#6
S'wot I said	TalkingDog	Dec 2012	#47
BINGO!	truebluegreen	Dec 2012	#66
Yep.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#80
Jeez, are there any left?	Eleanors38	Dec 2012	#83
Thank you, Mr. President.	JHB	Dec 2012	#8
Well, I voted For and took his	fredamae	Dec 2012	#9
Sure, but his comparison isn't really inconsistant with that.	Bucky	Dec 2012	#14
yes it was	demwing	Dec 2012	#37
I recall when all those Rockefeller Republicans came out for gay marriage & legalized pot	Bucky	Dec 2012	#10
I appreciate Obama's honesty is these regards. /nt	think	Dec 2012	#11
President Obama	ProSense	Dec 2012	#12
Come on, now ProSense. You know that they won't read the entire passage for context.	Liberal_Stalwart71	Dec 2012	#25
It's a good statement, it's heartfelt, it's honest.	Tom Rinaldo	Dec 2012	#28
Obama's policies are actually very far to the right of Eisenhower	MannyGoldstein	Dec 2012	#38
I think President Obama's	ProSense	Dec 2012	#42
He "gave" us health care reform?	truebluegreen	Dec 2012	#67
Here's the	ProSense	Dec 2012	#94
I remember that, too.	kurtzapril4	Dec 2012	#51
Refreshing, too	PurityOfEssence	Dec 2012	#57
Yeah, the Republicans are the far right	brentspeak	Dec 2012	#31
Why don't	John2	Dec 2012	#49
Sounds like he's announcing that	Doctor_J	Dec 2012	#15
The Third Way	zipplewrath	Dec 2012	#16
He's right about that	FiveGoodMen	Dec 2012	#17
I'm glad that even the Prez acknowledges the fact that	CheapShotArtist	Dec 2012	#19
1980's! Hell, I see him as a moderate Republican today. He's sure no Democrat.	LoisB	Dec 2012	#20
How About A Reagan Democrat?	wellst0nev0ter	Dec 2012	#29
He's the most liberal President ever!!!	progressoid	Dec 2012	#21
LOL! n/t	kurtzapril4	Dec 2012	#52
lol	ballaratocker	Dec 2012	#77
You can take that to the bank.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#81
Don't blame Obama that a moderate GOPer in the 80s might be considered a leftwing liberal today	andym	Dec 2012	#22
And He Let The Reichwing Freaks Pull Him To The Right	wellst0nev0ter	Dec 2012	#30
No, he was there before he left college.	Eleanors38	Dec 2012	#85
Bookmarking	Solly Mack	Dec 2012	#24
James Carville said it in 2011	rcmooney	Dec 2012	#27
which is one reason I vote Green in the 2000s....	mike_c	Dec 2012	#32
Why are we bashing Obama here?	cosmicone	Dec 2012	#33
And yet. I didn't vote for any of them because, as moderate as they were, Dems were better.	Luminous Animal	Dec 2012	#39
For what I can remember a 1980's republican could	Third Doctor	Dec 2012	#56
I feel the same way you do.	Liberalynn	Dec 2012	#65
Excuse me, quoting is now bashing?	JackRiddler	Dec 2012	#89
Because he admitted he's a Republican	Doctor_J	Dec 2012	#90
well no shit	frylock	Dec 2012	#34
I'd like to know which "moderate" Republican he thinks he's like.	forestpath	Dec 2012	#35
"I don't think government can solve every problem". So if it's very wealthy people that you	jtuck004	Dec 2012	#36
You don't care about context?	demwing	Dec 2012	#40
So when a kid leaves school on Friday, and EVERYONE around them knows they won't have	jtuck004	Dec 2012	#48
This thread is a great study in sociology/psychology	MannyGoldstein	Dec 2012	#41
Yeah,	ProSense	Dec 2012	#43
Yeah, the hatred for anyone perceived as being to the left of Obama is palpable	Fumesucker	Dec 2012	#61
The site of you in this thread	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#82
Nice	Phlem	Mar 6	#116
Really? Holy cow, I had no idea. I mean that is an amazing observation.	Safetykitten	Dec 2012	#44
wtf he admits it??!!	limpyhobbler	Dec 2012	#45
Pretty well-known before he ran in '08...	Eleanors38	Dec 2012	#87
He says that like he thinks its a good thing	tularetom	Dec 2012	#46
It IS a good thing	WestCoastLib	Dec 2012	#58
No it's not it's a BAD thing. The country needs more than an 1980s Republican to face down	byeya	Dec 2012	#105
Disagree. The country hasn't shifted, but.........	socialist_n_TN	Dec 2012	#107
What we have gotten 'til now is not even moderate. It is right-wing.	woo me with science	Dec 2012	#50
^^^This^^^	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#84
More of this !	Phlem	Mar 6	#117
Well isn't that just fucking swell.	Fearless	Dec 2012	#53
I think more than a few people view him as trying to impose socialism	NewJeffCT	Dec 2012	#54
and the only way 1/3 of the people believe that shite	newspeak	Dec 2012	#69
I imagine he's trying to defuse the GOP rhetoric	defacto7	Dec 2012	#55
Then he should have run as one.	Octafish	Dec 2012	#60
In some ways	Kelvin Mace	Dec 2012	#64
uh, if he would have said like an eisenhower republican, I might have been more impressed	newspeak	Dec 2012	#68
So, wouldn't that position him as generally against the Social Safety Net?	NorthCarolina	Dec 2012	#70
They wanted me PPR'd for saying he was a Republican	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#86
And anti-union and anti-public school	Doctor_J	Dec 2012	#91
dam..i`ve been saying that for a few years now.	madrchsod	Dec 2012	#71
As Bill Maher said....	lbrtbell	Dec 2012	#72
Everyone on this thread is missing the saddest part ...	dawg	Dec 2012	#73
don't really need to go back to the 80's	Skittles	Dec 2012	#74
That's kind a funny!	Dyedinthewoolliberal	Dec 2012	#75
So, since the election is over, can we criticize him now? /nt	Ash_F	Dec 2012	#76
''The truth of the matter is.....''	DeSwiss	Dec 2012	#78
He said this to marginalize wacko republicans and attract independents but	pampango	Dec 2012	#88
He is not a Liberal democrat	Resonance_Chamber	Dec 2012	#92
So I guess you're not a fan of FDR.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#97
A big fan. I believe Obama would govern differently	pampango	Dec 2012	#111
Yeah well that sucks	workinclasszero	Dec 2012	#93
I see him as a moderate Republican now.	ozone_man	Dec 2012	#110
Do something about that, Mr. President!	tabasco	Dec 2012	#98
Well then	Steerpike	Dec 2012	#100
Uh--oh.	bvar22	Dec 2012	#103
Not as I remember	rock	Dec 2012	#104
Where's the action behind the campaign promise that he'd walk the picket lines with strikers	byeya	Dec 2012	#106
I was blocked from the Barack Obama Group for posting this article there.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#109
To be fair	DonCoquixote	Dec 2012	#112
The Repubs just got their asses handed to them by listening to their fringe	Number23	Dec 2012	#113
Obama is closer to the policies of Reagan than the current Republicans	Joe the Progressive	Dec 2012	#114

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