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Politicub

(12,162 posts)
93. I don't understand your premise or your question
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:40 PM
Dec 2012

So you're saying that more homicides occur in households with guns because those guns were brought into the house because the occupant felt like he or she was in danger?

Is that right? Just making sure we're on the same page.

I read the content at the links you provided. Abuse that escalates to homicide is indeed a problem in this country. Maybe if guns and ammo were heavily regulated and highly taxed the Wisc. shooter profiled in the first link wouldn't have had as easy of a time accessing them. I don't think that means we need to throw the baby out with the bathwater because some restraining orders are broken or ignored.

There is no perfect solution to society's problems, but I believe strong and sensible gun control measures make society better - not worse. It's an agree to disagree situation, I guess.

Are they out of their minds? Demeter Dec 2012 #1
Pretty much proved that yesterday... thatgemguy Dec 2012 #31
What could possibly go wrong??? Roland99 Dec 2012 #2
The resolution to the Appalachain Law School shooting? AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #4
Are you implying it will lead to more gun violence? If so I dont buy that line of argument. cstanleytech Dec 2012 #26
At least if they are in the open now, it's easier to see who's packing. Roland99 Dec 2012 #56
Concealed and open carry has been legal in many states for quite a long time.... PavePusher Dec 2012 #76
I'm quite sure it will happen one day Roland99 Dec 2012 #107
Lunatics. nt onehandle Dec 2012 #3
I call them the Lansing Loonies. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #5
I know that if I or a child I loved were huddled behind a desk hoping a school shooter woud pass me TPaine7 Dec 2012 #6
All gun nuts fancy themselves as Bruce Willis Politicub Dec 2012 #18
You mean like this? TPaine7 Dec 2012 #19
You made my point. These are all vigilante pew pew fantasies. Politicub Dec 2012 #21
Sigh... No i didn't. That you think I did is sad, a poor reflection on our educational system. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #23
Huh? Are you honestly saying you went through all of this? Politicub Dec 2012 #24
No, simply that my "fantasy" is a world in which decent, law-abiding people are equipped to save TPaine7 Dec 2012 #27
The world sounds like it's a scary place for you. Politicub Dec 2012 #30
I appreciate your concern, but I don't think the odds of that are very large. You may consider TPaine7 Dec 2012 #32
The odds of a fire extinguisher killing or injuring Shadowflash Dec 2012 #54
+1. All great points. Politicub Dec 2012 #59
I'm in favor of levying heavy taxes on ink and electrons... PavePusher Dec 2012 #77
So an experienced unarmed teacher who trains & arms herself to defend... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #110
People are being blown to bits and all you do is roll out the same tired crap Politicub Dec 2012 #111
You are in a paranoid panic. Get control of yourself. Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #113
I love it when KNIFE weilding assailants pause and hold their poses, waiting for 2nd Amdmnt Justice. Bucky Dec 2012 #121
You mean like this AlexSatan Dec 2012 #49
Yes. Just like that. Politicub Dec 2012 #58
The non-dead people AlexSatan Dec 2012 #65
The evidence: Thousands of families and their children have paid the ultimate price Politicub Dec 2012 #71
False conclusion - Not causal AlexSatan Dec 2012 #75
Where's your research? All you have is opinion. Politicub Dec 2012 #85
OK, let's try again and I'll type slower AlexSatan Dec 2012 #89
c) Not sure. Some people get restraining orders. Politicub Dec 2012 #90
Because research will not tell what you think AlexSatan Dec 2012 #92
I don't understand your premise or your question Politicub Dec 2012 #93
Yes AlexSatan Dec 2012 #94
Michigan allows open carry in the schools now. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #7
But God forbid if you light up a cigarette in the school parking lot! TahitiNut Dec 2012 #63
What... pizzadave Dec 2012 #8
Michiganians heaven05 Dec 2012 #9
Yup, my thanks to all MI citizens who found other stuff to do more important than voting in 2010 Bozita Dec 2012 #12
I know some "liberals" who voted for Snyder JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #20
Stand your playground? trusty elf Dec 2012 #10
Someone has to say it: What the hell is wrong with Michigan? Michiganders gone wild! AAO Dec 2012 #11
protect yourself from gun owners .... get your own gun nt msongs Dec 2012 #13
repeal the 2nd amendment and Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #14
Because "war on drugs" has worked so well... davidthegnome Dec 2012 #38
Are you trying to start a Civil War? n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #78
This country's obsession with guns has got to stop. Brigid Dec 2012 #15
Guns provide an illusion of power, which is why they have such a tight hold on Americans Politicub Dec 2012 #17
How else is he going to protect himself from...whatever is going TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #28
You should call him Yosemite Sam rightsideout Dec 2012 #40
So you are worried AlexSatan Dec 2012 #51
Yes, it does. That's why gun nut relative should leave his toys in the car. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #70
I sure hope you don't have any meat to cut AlexSatan Dec 2012 #74
Why not? They can oppress the people so much that they fight one another Politicub Dec 2012 #16
WTF??? Odin2005 Dec 2012 #22
Those mofos in Michigan are batshit crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OldRedneck Dec 2012 #25
Okay, is it just me, or are they actually trolling citizens into revolts which could be used Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #29
I'll bet after the events of this week alot of Dems are re-thinking the guns thing. I can see a okaawhatever Dec 2012 #33
Just what is an 'alot'? eom Purveyor Dec 2012 #35
Maybe this will explain historylovr Dec 2012 #66
LOL. eom Purveyor Dec 2012 #67
This is so wrong. Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Dec 2012 #34
So private businesses may allow guns because of their rights DJ13 Dec 2012 #36
I think the world is really gonna end. Crazy shit going on! underoath Dec 2012 #37
Bowling for Columbine part 2 triplepoint Dec 2012 #39
Insanity davidthegnome Dec 2012 #41
So, what is keeping people with criminal purposes from carrying right now? PavePusher Dec 2012 #80
Is that intended as a question? davidthegnome Dec 2012 #101
Again you seem to be saying that the permit enables action that would not be possible without it. PavePusher Dec 2012 #105
It's easier to get a gun then it is to register to vote rightsideout Dec 2012 #42
uh...really? nickinSTL Dec 2012 #118
Teenagers, raging hormones, and the lack of maturity to handle the responsibility... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #43
Are you suggesting that the children be armed? ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #46
Does this "law" say they can't be? Btw, I'm not suggesting anything of the kind.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #47
You need to be 21 and have a concealed weapon permit. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #53
Utter nonsense. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #60
The minimum age to get a concealed weapons permit in that state is 21 slackmaster Dec 2012 #61
The fact that you are apparently ignorant of what the law says? n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #82
And how quickly will those idiots change the law to lower the age requirement? nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #87
Hasn't happened in any state yet. PavePusher Dec 2012 #91
it is a federal crime (with few exeptions) gejohnston Dec 2012 #96
Really tired of DU being used as an anti gun platform. L0oniX Dec 2012 #44
What a joke bongbong Dec 2012 #102
Hmmm ...Gun Control & RKBA, 119 posts ...looks like you may have an agenda. L0oniX Dec 2012 #103
Are you a stalker? bongbong Dec 2012 #120
Gee, wonder if they'll let us carry them in the capital at the next protest! erinlough Dec 2012 #45
Why do casinos get an exemption? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #48
Hey, what could be safer? primavera Dec 2012 #50
You obviously did not read the article. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #55
You're right primavera Dec 2012 #64
Just wrote an article on NRA and their negative effects TimKeller Dec 2012 #52
Create some OPs; let's hear some of you ideas. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #57
Blog-spam. Bu-bye now. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #81
"Except federal buildings, courthouses and casinos." toby jo Dec 2012 #62
What the hell is in the water up there?? Myrina Dec 2012 #68
Republicans.......nothing more than bought and sold Republicans. Eom erinlough Dec 2012 #114
OMG proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #69
Well this is a sure promotion for the NRA so that people will live in glinda Dec 2012 #72
This law change actually results in less guns. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #84
"Shootout at the Jungle Gym" moondust Dec 2012 #73
man there must be a lot of frightened people in michigan.... madrchsod Dec 2012 #79
good deal for the gun shops, now they can have 'back to school' sales in August olddad56 Dec 2012 #83
Not really. See post #84. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #86
Stop this nonsense by having the right to carry in legislatures and courts. kiranon Dec 2012 #88
You obviously did not read the article. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #98
just fucking absurd!! and-justice-for-all Dec 2012 #95
You, too, did not read the article. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #99
6 months tops before someone gets shot and killed. NickP Dec 2012 #97
Maybe, but not due to this more restrictive law. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #100
OMG they're arming the children now? trouble.smith Dec 2012 #104
Just in! Law amended to arm fetus! With AK-47s! Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #112
oh noes, not the fetuses too. trouble.smith Dec 2012 #115
Why, they're gonna arm the thought that brought you into the world! Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #116
They passed it last night. catbyte Dec 2012 #106
Yes and now waiting for the Governors signature. eom Purveyor Dec 2012 #109
Wow, are we gun obsessed or what? primavera Dec 2012 #108
Worst. Timing. Ever. KamaAina Dec 2012 #117
The shooting at the school today actually supports this bill. Kablooie Dec 2012 #119
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