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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
19. Ban them too, if it's really happening. Laws severely restricting carrying guns in public are sane.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 11:30 AM
Dec 2012

Can you link to a source that is not a violation of TOS?

If can't abide by Chicago's rational gun laws, don't go there.
"Am I advocating arming everyone in Chicago?" Saturday Dec 2012 #1
Well then... HonEur12 Dec 2012 #3
Actually he's not Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #17
Why do you think the lawful will suddenly become a bigger pproblem than the criminals? PavePusher Dec 2012 #37
You don't need a CCW license to carry in Vermont. JohnnyBoots Dec 2012 #47
Yes, compare VT to mikeysnot Dec 2012 #52
Lets compare Chicago to Houston. Have fun explaining that one. ;) X_Digger Dec 2012 #59
A comparison the gun Prohibtionists are extremly reluctant to make... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #64
yes, lets compare, what are your numbers? mikeysnot Dec 2012 #109
Here, have fun.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #110
Now if your numbers would be zero mikeysnot Dec 2012 #111
Funny, Chicago's is also not zero.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #113
"Cough" by your own logic... mikeysnot Dec 2012 #114
Who made the claim that it did? *looks around* Nope, not me. X_Digger Dec 2012 #115
Do you know who dennis Byrne's is? mikeysnot Dec 2012 #116
Oh, so only *some* Chicagoans' opinions matter, heh. X_Digger Dec 2012 #117
Have someone read this to you mikeysnot Dec 2012 #118
If it's all about the guns, then why doesn't Houston have the same rate as Chicago? X_Digger Dec 2012 #119
So I take it you don't live in chicago mikeysnot Dec 2012 #120
Things will be different, they'll be much worse. byeya Dec 2012 #2
Only if you consider an increase in justified homicides "worse" HonEur12 Dec 2012 #4
Yeah, you and your billh58 Dec 2012 #5
Self-defence is not vigilantism krispos42 Dec 2012 #7
yeah like that of Trevon Martin dsc Dec 2012 #107
Nope, krispos42 Dec 2012 #8
"The only people that can get concealed-carry permits are people with squeaky-clean records".... -..__... Dec 2012 #11
exactly. some people seem to think that if someone has a gun underoath Dec 2012 #16
Based on what, exactly? n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #38
Why is it folks in Chicago, like these aldermen, have sane approach to guns while rest of country Hoyt Dec 2012 #6
You mean the alderman who can and do, carry concealed? But say it's not safe for everyone else? X_Digger Dec 2012 #12
Ban them too, if it's really happening. Laws severely restricting carrying guns in public are sane. Hoyt Dec 2012 #19
Good luck getting the aldermen to give up *their* concealed carry. X_Digger Dec 2012 #20
entertaining link JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #22
Way out is to repeal that 1872 law that many alder-people do not use, cause they don't carry. Hoyt Dec 2012 #24
If Chicago's gun laws are so rational why don't they work? NT Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #25
Who says they don't work, or that things would be better with a bunch of cowboys toting? Hoyt Dec 2012 #28
400 people were murdered in Chicago this year by gangbangers W/ guns Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #31
Don't particularly like term "gangbangers", although used a lot by resident gun cultists here. Hoyt Dec 2012 #34
You probably don't like the term "thugs." But that is what they are... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #54
And those folks would like to see less guns too, not more as you seem to think. Hoyt Dec 2012 #56
You might think that approach is best, but there is a better one: Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #69
Nah, you and NRA misinterpret it. Hoyt Dec 2012 #70
Why this obsession with NRA? Are you a member? Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #71
Because they do the gun culture's bidding, whether one is member or free-rider. Hoyt Dec 2012 #78
So the NRA is following and not leading? Interesting. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #80
Where do you get that, Hack? They are doing what gun manufacturers, republicans, callous Hoyt Dec 2012 #84
Fortunately there are plenty of us enlightened progressive gun owners hack89 Dec 2012 #85
"Progressive" gun owners? I don't think so. Hoyt Dec 2012 #86
That's your privilege- however, your beliefs do not seem to carry much weight. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #88
I support marriage equality, abortion, unions, single payer health care ... hack89 Dec 2012 #89
That's why it is important to change perception of guns in society. Hoyt Dec 2012 #93
We can start by distinguishing between criminals and lawful gun owers hack89 Dec 2012 #95
I wonder how many of those murders... -..__... Dec 2012 #108
The irony is strong in this one Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #112
"...link...that is not a violation of TOS?" He won't link to GOP-founded, GOP-led Brady Center. nt Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #53
Sooooo....if you think that creating laws that restrict carrying guns in public is the answer....... Budgies Revenge Dec 2012 #97
Nooooooooo, I'm not saying that. But your packing will not help a thing. Hoyt Dec 2012 #99
Really, you're absolutely sure that my packing wouldn't help a single thing? Budgies Revenge Dec 2012 #106
Like the ban Chicago currently has? How's that working out? (nt) Recursion Dec 2012 #101
This alderman support the ruling hack89 Dec 2012 #32
Apparently they haven't read the memo from the Gungeon primavera Dec 2012 #9
I'm sure you can provide a link to that memo right? NT Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #18
LMAO! primavera Dec 2012 #26
Re: he wasn't willing to produce a citation for his allegation Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #30
Nope primavera Dec 2012 #33
But what you can't do is provide links to posts where I've made broad brush smears Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #36
How many links do you want? primavera Dec 2012 #43
There's quite a bit of difference between "guns make us safer" Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #44
There is? primavera Dec 2012 #46
All you have to do is go to gungeon and read the "celebration of firearms" to know poster is correct Hoyt Dec 2012 #35
Where was this? n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #39
I'm not sure why a "sarcasm" tag is used if an untruth is still an untruth... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #55
Certainly primavera Dec 2012 #73
I don't get this logic. The guys that are doing the killing NOW don't have concealed carry permits.. truebrit71 Dec 2012 #10
remember- the sc will have to get past rahm. mopinko Dec 2012 #13
You mean the guy that has to keep writing checks to the opposing legal teams? PavePusher Dec 2012 #40
I trust that you have a citation for that allegation? primavera Dec 2012 #77
That one's public knowledge. PavePusher Dec 2012 #83
Here you go- note the signature friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #90
Chicago is clearly not afraid that King George is coming back. onehandle Dec 2012 #14
Really? What about self defense? alp227 Dec 2012 #82
Reread The Article DallasNE Dec 2012 #15
Umm, the law was struck down, but nothing changed regarding legal gun ownership. Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #57
"Then we'll take that up to the Supreme Court". -..__... Dec 2012 #21
I doubt that the SCOTUS would accept that the city has standing to contest... slackmaster Dec 2012 #23
You don't want a ruling from this court primavera Dec 2012 #27
Surely you can cite to this "200 years of legal precedent", amIright? n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #41
God, you guys are predictable! - n/t primavera Dec 2012 #42
IOW "no" ? NT Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #45
See post 75 - n/t primavera Dec 2012 #76
Yes, we are. We like arguments that feature something called 'evidence'. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #66
Odd thing to say primavera Dec 2012 #72
Really? Here's a post I made today with that very thing, by way of an item known as a 'link': friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #87
"Imposed Heller on us"? -..__... Dec 2012 #48
No question about that primavera Dec 2012 #49
Let me ask you a question.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #58
Yes, I have a Westlaw account too primavera Dec 2012 #75
All predicated on Miller which talks about the *weapon*, not the scope of the right. X_Digger Dec 2012 #81
Why would anyone do that. If it's that complicated, there's plenty of room for a more astute Court Hoyt Dec 2012 #91
It's "complicated" only in that there's a wide and deep variety of cases.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #94
Times have changed too. Hoyt Dec 2012 #96
So repeal the second amendment, then repeal all the state analogs, then the ninth.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #98
Nah, it's easier to do through courts and as rational restrictions. Hoyt Dec 2012 #100
Good luck with that. *pat* *pat* *pat* n/t X_Digger Dec 2012 #102
So... they're batting .333 -..__... Dec 2012 #104
This addresses Gang problems How? One_Life_To_Give Dec 2012 #29
I agree with your social outlook, and I wish the Democratic Party would once AGAIN... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #63
Dodge City, 1878: struggle4progress Dec 2012 #50
You should stop using progressive to describe your upaloopa Dec 2012 #51
Actually, "progressive" (as well as "liberal") are apt terms to support strong 2A rights... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #61
You need to start you posts with upaloopa Dec 2012 #65
Well, if you need paint-by-numbers, then just assume that. In your case. nt Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #68
Good - Democracy in action from the leaders of a proud Blue city. Little wonder that our apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #60
Angry? Chicago's unconstitutional law is going down. The last regressive gun-law state. Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #62
Let us know when you become a mod or host, mmmkay? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #67
Gun Violence fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #74
"want to put restrictions on guns"? They've *had* restrictions for decades Recursion Dec 2012 #103
Hope they have their checkbook handy hack89 Dec 2012 #79
Gunssssss! bongbong Dec 2012 #92
LMAO. Hoyt Dec 2012 #105
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