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Dickless Dirty Harry wannabes celebrate. I expect a bunch of George Zimmermans will be born. nt onehandle Dec 2012 #1
Whereas half-witted jackasses bemoan the upholding of the people's rights n/t TPaine7 Dec 2012 #11
Good news for the people of Illinois. Link to the ruling here... slackmaster Dec 2012 #2
It sucks jpak Dec 2012 #39
There is no place for state's rights when it comes to the Constitution. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #3
Spam deleted by SidDithers (MIR Team) TForbster Dec 2012 #4
Welcome to DU. I appreciate that anti-Fox sentiment, but frankly there is no nexus... slackmaster Dec 2012 #5
OH NO. kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #6
How do you know they aren't packing already? Throd Dec 2012 #8
Do you ever venture into the rest of the US--the 40 states that are "shall issue"? n/t TPaine7 Dec 2012 #12
I have as much right not to be around armed people kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #19
If you live in Illinois there are already people around you who are carrying concealed firearms... slackmaster Dec 2012 #20
"they'll almost certainly leave it to the discretion of local law enforcement people" TPaine7 Dec 2012 #22
I skimmed it very quickly. Does it imply that only an objective system of issuing permits... slackmaster Dec 2012 #23
Not explicitly that I noticed. They did condemn the NY ruling, however: TPaine7 Dec 2012 #25
There's Heller again primavera Dec 2012 #31
You're simply wrong. Read the history, I have. There is a book on Amazon TPaine7 Dec 2012 #35
I have read the history and the cases primavera Dec 2012 #36
So you know all about how the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment explicitly set out to TPaine7 Dec 2012 #37
Yep, I just agree with the dissenting opinion of the four liberal justices... primavera Dec 2012 #38
Identity legal-historical analysis is about as respectable as identity physics TPaine7 Dec 2012 #40
True, but the company one keeps should give one pause primavera Dec 2012 #41
The thing is, I believed most of what Scalia said before he ever heard of Dick Heller or TPaine7 Dec 2012 #42
Of course you did primavera Dec 2012 #43
Sigh... TPaine7 Dec 2012 #44
You have as much right to not be around armed people as you have to not be around people TPaine7 Dec 2012 #21
When was the last time kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #29
What does "multiple" or "crowd" have to do with it? Aren't the issues "killing" and "public"? TPaine7 Dec 2012 #32
Excellent news and about time! -..__... Dec 2012 #7
Now watch as Chicago becomes a violent place. Throd Dec 2012 #9
I saw what you did there! nt hack89 Dec 2012 #10
Great post!!! n/t TPaine7 Dec 2012 #13
It wasn't as if Chicago didn't turn into a shooting gallery each Spring already. JVS Dec 2012 #14
But Elliot Ness could not have tried to arrest Frank Nitti in "The Untouchables" if this ruling winstars Dec 2012 #15
If I remember right, in the Untouchables, Nitti brought a gun into the courthouse. hughee99 Dec 2012 #28
Support from a leading Alderman! There's a surprise DonP Dec 2012 #16
Yes, finally the truth is being acknowledged: TPaine7 Dec 2012 #17
Good. I live in Chicago and have been arguing with a friend about this for years. atufal Dec 2012 #18
Kick (nt) muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #24
The dissent has the better argument then Posner and the Majority happyslug Dec 2012 #26
I don't know. Posner is a highly respected jurist, and he is no fan of self-defense. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #30
Posner also wrote an opinion that a drug addict is employable happyslug Dec 2012 #46
I'd like the Illinois legislature to reaffirm their long standing law and tell the Court of Appeals byeya Dec 2012 #27
That would be very good for gun rights. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #33
From what I hear, many southern county DAs already disregard the law. Pacafishmate Dec 2012 #34
State's rights fan, are you? Do you think California's Proposition 8 is also legit? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #45
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