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Hayabusa

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11. lol

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 01:13 PM

Dec 2012

Gray wolves are not longer a threatened species because farmers whine about "the livestock" when they don't do enough to adequately protect them, not to mention the fools that just want to kill them because they're there. As for a fake romantic image of wolves, I contend that there is a faker romantic image of the "Big game hunter" who used a rifle with a long range to "heroicly" kill predator. It's the same damn thing that's happening to tigers, lions and others around the world.

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Montana: Wolf Hunts Are Banned in Area Bordering Yellowstone [View all] notundecided Dec 2012 OP

KICK patrice Dec 2012 #1

so good to hear SemperEadem Dec 2012 #2

A good start Hayabusa Dec 2012 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author randomtagger Dec 2012 #5

Welcome to DU and I hope you enjoy the site. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #6

Wow, someone nice for a change randomtagger Dec 2012 #125

Equally Fake notundecided Dec 2012 #8

Thank you notundecided life long demo Dec 2012 #14

If a wolf repeatedly hunts livestock it can be put down and the farmer can .... Botany Dec 2012 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author randomtagger Dec 2012 #13

More bullshit... truebrit71 Dec 2012 #15

I went to series of talks by ecologists / biologists / range Botany Dec 2012 #28

Thank you beam me up scottie Dec 2012 #108

I done gots me some knowledge Botany Dec 2012 #112

Thank you for understanding. n/t Helen Reddy Dec 2012 #146

+1000 nt Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #144

And why is "livestock" more important than wolves? llmart Dec 2012 #122

People mainly keep livestock as a source of income. Redford Dec 2012 #147

Ah, yes, the almighty dollar..... llmart Dec 2012 #148

You must be joking right? rwsanders Dec 2012 #10

lol Hayabusa Dec 2012 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author randomtagger Dec 2012 #16

It wasn't the scientists that bowed, it was the politicians life long demo Dec 2012 #18

Huh? randomtagger Dec 2012 #19

Politicians are not scientists Drale Dec 2012 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author randomtagger Dec 2012 #23

IUCN delisted population as a whole. TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #113

No randomtagger Dec 2012 #118

And our latest contestant in that always fun game, how long does it take before the troll is bounced rwsanders Dec 2012 #21

What? randomtagger Dec 2012 #24

The first sign of a troll is that they are always the "reasonable" ones. rwsanders Dec 2012 #31

Trolling? randomtagger Dec 2012 #78

Lots of this bullshit going around on DU lately. kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #84

It wasn't disagreement... rwsanders Dec 2012 #90

Seriously? randomtagger Dec 2012 #109

How about some advice? 2naSalit Dec 2012 #116

Most scientists are not political. randomtagger Dec 2012 #123

That's not what I was saying. 2naSalit Dec 2012 #131

What are you talking about? randomtagger Dec 2012 #132

Uh... when's the last time you tried to get funding for academic research? 2naSalit Dec 2012 #134

How is that relevant? randomtagger Dec 2012 #137

What a pile of fucking bullshit... truebrit71 Dec 2012 #12

I watched an excellent documentary that showed that the reintroduction of wolfs into rhett o rick Dec 2012 #29

Have I seen the carcasses of the livestock they kill? theHandpuppet Dec 2012 #62

If you truly were concerned about the bigger picture, MoonchildCA Dec 2012 #91

well they will be threatened if you all start seeing them as the enemy and start killing them CreekDog Dec 2012 #95

Actually it was the government 2naSalit Dec 2012 #119

coyotes are a bigger threat to livestock gejohnston Dec 2012 #100

That's true. randomtagger Dec 2012 #110

And IIRC feral DOGS are worse still. And your concerns were hypothetical? TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author randomtagger Dec 2012 #115

Excellent news dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #4

Actually it's a pile of PR bullshit 2naSalit Dec 2012 #94

I hope Wyoming and Idaho do the same Botany Dec 2012 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author randomtagger Dec 2012 #17

Mule Muffins!! rwsanders Dec 2012 #22

lol randomtagger Dec 2012 #25

You are, but I don't expect it to be tolerated too long. rwsanders Dec 2012 #26

Are you serious? randomtagger Dec 2012 #30

I don't have that authority, but I'm sure that your pattern will quickly get you noticed. rwsanders Dec 2012 #33

Why is s/he a troll? kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #86

Your very first post was laughing out loud at my opinion Hayabusa Dec 2012 #35

For my 1000th post Hayabusa Dec 2012 #27

I can't believe you think I am a troll. randomtagger Dec 2012 #32

The IUCN Red list won't help the ecosystems here stabilize. rwsanders Dec 2012 #36

I'm not going to jump your ass - people do that to me here all the time AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #39

There are many non-lethal methods (see www.defenders.org) rwsanders Dec 2012 #42

Thank you so much AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #45

I need to get back to studying myself. Good luck. rwsanders Dec 2012 #50

You are both 2naSalit Dec 2012 #124

But what kind of wolf numbers are we talking about in the Great Lakes Region AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #127

There are far more wolves in the 2naSalit Dec 2012 #133

Bison randomtagger Dec 2012 #60

? randomtagger Dec 2012 #63

I totally agree with you. Rhiannon12866 Dec 2012 #139

Thanks! randomtagger Dec 2012 #141

9 in one year is not "controlled". maxsolomon Dec 2012 #38

Wrong 2naSalit Dec 2012 #97

From "A Sand County Almanac and Sketches Here and There" AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #34

That book stunned me (like Silent Spring)... rwsanders Dec 2012 #37

My zoology prof gave me a copy AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #40

Are you working in the field? rwsanders Dec 2012 #46

Not yet AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #52

Able to relocate is the key. My wife is tired of moving. rwsanders Dec 2012 #54

Thanks - you too! AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author randomtagger Dec 2012 #43

That pro-DDT arguement is really dredging the bottom of the septic tank... rwsanders Dec 2012 #47

Sure randomtagger Dec 2012 #49

I didn't. But you're hunting for attention again. rwsanders Dec 2012 #51

It was a mistake randomtagger Dec 2012 #106

Problem with DDT was not its use, but it's DELIBERATE missuse. TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #117

True randomtagger Dec 2012 #142

Hey man AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author randomtagger Dec 2012 #53

It stays in the food chain forever and a day AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #57

Ok.. randomtagger Dec 2012 #61

Nein AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #68

Hmm randomtagger Dec 2012 #70

You mean like this unfit species? AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #85

It's not endangered. randomtagger Dec 2012 #103

are you picking and choosing which species are in harmony with your way of life? CreekDog Dec 2012 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author randomtagger Dec 2012 #102

God, that's even worse than i thought CreekDog Dec 2012 #107

Not exactly (read the whole post) randomtagger Dec 2012 #111

The potential for harm from GM is unknown. rwsanders Dec 2012 #55

GM crops randomtagger Dec 2012 #56

Same thing can be done with traditional cross breeding without the risks... rwsanders Dec 2012 #89

You are probably right randomtagger Dec 2012 #101

Yep, I researched CCD for a senior thesis AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #59

CCD randomtagger Dec 2012 #65

The varroa mite was the parasite I was referring to AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #72

Yeah randomtagger Dec 2012 #76

Secondary Cause AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #93

Maybe randomtagger Dec 2012 #104

No, because Monsanto is greedy, the seeds/pollen CAN spread. TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #120

Yes, randomtagger Dec 2012 #121

Really? Independent researchers tried to set reasonable... TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #130

DDT was banned in the US kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #64

Wow, thanks! randomtagger Dec 2012 #67

I'm against wolf hunting kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #88

I agree randomtagger Dec 2012 #105

I treasure that book and Aldo Leopold notundecided Dec 2012 #41

nice samsingh Dec 2012 #44

I really kinda disagree with this UndahCovah Dec 2012 #66

Exactly. randomtagger Dec 2012 #69

Sorry, but you are incorrect.. truebrit71 Dec 2012 #73

Show me the research... randomtagger Dec 2012 #74

You show me yours... truebrit71 Dec 2012 #75

Sure! randomtagger Dec 2012 #77

Okay...one link is to research from 1991... truebrit71 Dec 2012 #79

That isn't research... randomtagger Dec 2012 #81

Hit the links genius... truebrit71 Dec 2012 #82

I did. randomtagger Dec 2012 #87

Don't even bother with this guy AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #92

Good advice.... truebrit71 Dec 2012 #96

Republican? randomtagger Dec 2012 #99

And what you just said is that except in the most extreme circumstances... TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #126

What did I state as fact? randomtagger Dec 2012 #128

This is what you said: TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #135

It's still an opinion. randomtagger Dec 2012 #136

So if I preface it with "I believe" I am free to express my... TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #138

"I believe" makes something an opinion. randomtagger Dec 2012 #140

We "play god" with nature all the fucking time. TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #143

yeah! robinlynne Dec 2012 #71

good news Duppers Dec 2012 #80

oh dear, that will upset the cowards Skittles Dec 2012 #83

Please lock this thread. randomtagger Dec 2012 #129

You are not the OP so it is not up to you to demand that the discussion is over. Nihil Dec 2012 #145