Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Latest Breaking News
In reply to the discussion: Brig guard: Manning’s depression history made him a suicide risk at Quantico [View all]struggle4progress
(118,039 posts)28. Without seeing the transcript, I can't know for certain why they've been called,
but the defense is calling nonexperts, too
A facility may (for example) have some guidelines for determining certain risks, and it certainly has some protocols for responding to possible risks, so nonexperts are inevitably involved in prisoner care
It would be unreasonable to expect the entire staff of a brig or prison to be psychiatrists, and so the observations of non-psychiatric staff may play some role in informing certain administrative decisions
This brig, for example, has a panel that advises the local command about prisoners: this panel seems to include nonpsychiatrists familiar with the patient
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
58 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Brig guard: Manning’s depression history made him a suicide risk at Quantico [View all]
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
OP
Manning's psychiatrists repeatedly advised taking Manning off 24 hour watch
Luminous Animal
Dec 2012
#15
Yes, knowing he had a problem, he should have been treated for that. He was neglected.
freshwest
Dec 2012
#22
Given that the military traditionally teaches one to kill enemies before
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#19
This is what Manning's disclosures were about -- the excessive cruelty in the military.
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#23
Thanks. I don't know how it feels, but I believe what you say is most likely true.
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#43
I have never advocated killing Assange, so it's really dishonest of you
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#6
I guess ideological commitments can indeed affect reading comprehension
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#14
Fantasy premonitions of a hallucinated future are useless for reality-based discussion
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#13
If this witness did not go to medical school, his opinion is as worthless as all other untrained
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#4
If he didn't go to medical school, then he wouldn't be fit to offer a medical
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#5
In a normal civil court, only experts are allowed to give their personal opinions and judgments.
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#24
Without seeing the transcript, I can't know for certain why they've been called,
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#28
It might be just to get a better understanding and corroboration of what happened.
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#31
This is pretrial hearing, not investigation. At this stage, prosecution and defense are
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#44
On the alleged grounds of punitive treatment in custody, defense has moved either:
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#48
What the U.S. government has done to Bradley Manning is disgraceful and criminal!
Peace Patriot
Dec 2012
#17
If they had to hold Manning in custody, they SHOULD have just put him on house arrest.
Ken Burch
Dec 2012
#21
House arrest like William Calley got? House arrest in the military is to your quarters, not to
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#38
Name a single serviceperson Manning 'exposed' who you think compares to William Calley. nt
msanthrope
Dec 2012
#55
That would have been a most unusual response to a soldier who, assigned to security intelligence
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#37
Of course, if Manning had killed himself, his backers would now be accusing the gov of murdering him
Azathoth
Dec 2012
#35
Riiiight -- and making him stand naked in front of his cell every morning . . .
markpkessinger
Dec 2012
#42
Manning was not forced to "stand naked in front of his cell every morning"
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#49
Except that story is 99% fabricated, almost like a left-wing version of a Faux News "exclusive"
Azathoth
Dec 2012
#51
Yes, it was suicide encouragement, except that it prevented him from committing suicide
Azathoth
Dec 2012
#50