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10. Papakie's job was not to treat Manning's depression but to maintain

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Wed Dec 5, 2012, 01:45 PM

Dec 2012

Manning safely in custody

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Brig guard: Manning’s depression history made him a suicide risk at Quantico [View all] struggle4progress Dec 2012 OP

The fact that he may have been at risk for suicide does..... NCTraveler Dec 2012 #1

The question is, was there a protocol and was it followed. MH1 Dec 2012 #7

Agree on all points. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2012 #9

Manning's psychiatrists repeatedly advised taking Manning off 24 hour watch Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #15

How do you feel about Michael A. Webb's suicide at Quantico? struggle4progress Dec 2012 #16

That is why I mentioned psychiatrists (plural)... Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #20

Yes, knowing he had a problem, he should have been treated for that. He was neglected. freshwest Dec 2012 #22

So, depression is to be treated by severely limiting the patient's JDPriestly Dec 2012 #2

Papakie's job was not to treat Manning's depression but to maintain struggle4progress Dec 2012 #10

Doing one's job, following orders.....cruelty is cruelty. Magoo48 Dec 2012 #18

Given that the military traditionally teaches one to kill enemies before struggle4progress Dec 2012 #19

This is what Manning's disclosures were about -- the excessive cruelty in the military. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #23

We're not killing machines, but thanks for the smear. PavePusher Dec 2012 #29

I doubt I ever called you, or anyone else, a killing machine struggle4progress Dec 2012 #30

Breaking down a prisoner, and empathy DoYouKnow Dec 2012 #39

I hope they free Manning! Welcome to DU and enjoy the site. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #40

Thanks. I don't know how it feels, but I believe what you say is most likely true. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #43

Which is why we locked him in a walk-in closet... JackRiddler Dec 2012 #3

I have never advocated killing Assange, so it's really dishonest of you struggle4progress Dec 2012 #6

No, you just advocate driving him to want to kill himself. n/t backscatter712 Dec 2012 #11

I guess ideological commitments can indeed affect reading comprehension struggle4progress Dec 2012 #14

Yep . . . GatorLarry Dec 2012 #27

But if he were to be killed... JackRiddler Dec 2012 #12

Fantasy premonitions of a hallucinated future are useless for reality-based discussion struggle4progress Dec 2012 #13

If this witness did not go to medical school, his opinion is as worthless as all other untrained AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #4

If he didn't go to medical school, then he wouldn't be fit to offer a medical struggle4progress Dec 2012 #5

In a normal civil court, only experts are allowed to give their personal opinions and judgments. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #24

Without seeing the transcript, I can't know for certain why they've been called, struggle4progress Dec 2012 #28

It might be just to get a better understanding and corroboration of what happened. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #31

This is pretrial hearing, not investigation. At this stage, prosecution and defense are struggle4progress Dec 2012 #44

Why is this evidence being introduced if it is just pretrial? JDPriestly Dec 2012 #45

On the alleged grounds of punitive treatment in custody, defense has moved either: struggle4progress Dec 2012 #48

Thanks. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #57

If a doctor gave this opinion with full knowledge of Manning's treatment... JackRiddler Dec 2012 #8

What the U.S. government has done to Bradley Manning is disgraceful and criminal! Peace Patriot Dec 2012 #17

Well said. Thanks. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #32

If they had to hold Manning in custody, they SHOULD have just put him on house arrest. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #21

House Arrest? Where? nt msanthrope Dec 2012 #33

His parent's house would have worked. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #34

House arrest like William Calley got? House arrest in the military is to your quarters, not to msanthrope Dec 2012 #38

Was not aware of his family situation. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #41

Calley makes for an apt reference. Seeing as how Manning exposed... JackRiddler Dec 2012 #54

Name a single serviceperson Manning 'exposed' who you think compares to William Calley. nt msanthrope Dec 2012 #55

Did they identify the Apache helicopter crew JackRiddler Dec 2012 #56

I think that's sort of the point. Nothing happened. randome Dec 2012 #58

That would have been a most unusual response to a soldier who, assigned to security intelligence struggle4progress Dec 2012 #37

Would such testimony . . . markpkessinger Dec 2012 #25

Manning's treatment is TOTALLY JUSTIFIED MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #26

Of course, if Manning had killed himself, his backers would now be accusing the gov of murdering him Azathoth Dec 2012 #35

Riiiight -- and making him stand naked in front of his cell every morning . . . markpkessinger Dec 2012 #42

Manning was not forced to "stand naked in front of his cell every morning" struggle4progress Dec 2012 #49

Except that story is 99% fabricated, almost like a left-wing version of a Faux News "exclusive" Azathoth Dec 2012 #51

Shame on you for these lies. JackRiddler Dec 2012 #53

Correctly, since the program to which the govt subjected him... JackRiddler Dec 2012 #46

Yes, it was suicide encouragement, except that it prevented him from committing suicide Azathoth Dec 2012 #50

It was torture and your government was responsible. JackRiddler Dec 2012 #52

Well, then, that certainly justifies torturing him, for sure! Zorra Dec 2012 #36

Quantico 'made him worse, more depressed. They are lucky he didn't bash his bare head into concrete Sunlei Dec 2012 #47