Reply #162

In the discussion thread: Israel settlement bid a 'fatal blow' to peace: Ban [View all]

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:04 AM

hack89 (21,281 posts)

162. Wars end with peace treaties.

Syria has to sit down with Israel if they want the Golan back. The military option is gone now that their military has been destroyed in the civil war.

As long as Syria and Israel are technically in a state of war, international law is on Israel's side.

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175 replies	Author	Time	Post
Israel settlement bid a 'fatal blow' to peace: Ban [View all]	Poll_Blind	Dec 2012	OP
Israel's government was never interested in peace. It's always been a land grab since at least the	craigmatic	Dec 2012	#1
I may be naive, but I believe if the government turned around and Labor won...	Poll_Blind	Dec 2012	#3
+1000 n/t	cosmicone	Dec 2012	#10
+1000000!	Walk away	Dec 2012	#106
Europeans apparently are no longer taking their lead from the US. Several countries have	sabrina 1	Dec 2012	#148
Exactly.	Zoeisright	Dec 2012	#170
Israel's provocations are SO transparent n/t	KimonoGirl	Dec 2012	#2
Ditto.	SoapBox	Dec 2012	#6
This message was self-deleted by its author	AnotherMcIntosh	Dec 2012	#4
The Zionist's Have No Interest In Peace	1ProudAtheist	Dec 2012	#5
100000000000000000000% correct	Great Caesars Ghost	Dec 2012	#12
Well put.	go west young man	Dec 2012	#15
YES YES YES!!!!!!	Bigmack	Dec 2012	#25
that book is fictional - you know that right?	Mosby	Dec 2012	#107
The religious nuts are out-reproducing the liberal Israelis	Odin2005	Dec 2012	#37
there are liberal Zionists	dlwickham	Dec 2012	#53
sadaam murdered a million Iraqis	Mosby	Dec 2012	#102
Your observation about Saddam would be valid	Ken Burch	Dec 2012	#141
A question.	atreides1	Dec 2012	#7
I believe that Netanyahu's ultra-conservative government will be...	Poll_Blind	Dec 2012	#8
So all that is left is a one state solution?	Paulie	Dec 2012	#9
Yes, that's what the Israeli public wants	cpwm17	Dec 2012	#11
That poll was bogus,	King_David	Dec 2012	#19
A solid majority of Israelis are pro-apartheid.	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#28
Nah,	King_David	Dec 2012	#41
I can read election results.	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#60
FYI - Livni got more votes than Netanyahu	Mosby	Dec 2012	#95
A majority of votes were for Netanyahu and those to his right.	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#97
Livni received more votes than Netanyahu, that's a fact.	Mosby	Dec 2012	#99
More than half of Israeli voters voted for a right wing party.	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#100
Uh huh	ForgoTheConsequence	Dec 2012	#103
Israelis show their approval of Israel's current Apartheid government	cpwm17	Dec 2012	#39
Changing the goalposts	King_David	Dec 2012	#42
Here's Haaretz poll with a differentd headline	cpwm17	Dec 2012	#50
Gideon Levy was forced to apologize	King_David	Dec 2012	#55
see comment #63 for Gideon Levy's 'retraction' which was not a retraction of the entire poll as you	azurnoir	Dec 2012	#64
So what was Levy's apology all about then ?	King_David	Dec 2012	#72
as stated in the snip he corrected one error and it was not about apartheid	azurnoir	Dec 2012	#136
Actually, Levy didn't apologise for the poll being bogus...	Violet_Crumble	Dec 2012	#67
So what did Levy apologize for ?	King_David	Dec 2012	#71
It's already been explained to you several times. I hope you read it this time...	Violet_Crumble	Dec 2012	#73
For something that appeared in a SEPARATE article, quoted below:	Ken Burch	Dec 2012	#142
okay a right wing Israeli news paper and a gross misreprentation of Gideon Levy's so called retracti	azurnoir	Dec 2012	#63
Thanks for the link, AZ.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Dec 2012	#137
genocide, really	magical thyme	Dec 2012	#16
genocide ?	King_David	Dec 2012	#20
I agree. Using a word like "genocide" is ridiculous.	virgogal	Dec 2012	#24
How about land? That keep pace with population growth?	Paulie	Dec 2012	#45
How anout Genocide ? nt	King_David	Dec 2012	#56
Not happening today	Paulie	Dec 2012	#57
People are finally beginning to see Zionism for what it is	Stewland	Dec 2012	#13
Your post shows you don't know what Zionism or fascism are.	former9thward	Dec 2012	#14
The Palestinian people are Semites too, you know.	magical thyme	Dec 2012	#17
The term antisemitism applies only to Jews,and not other semitic peoples. Let me help you out here ,	King_David	Dec 2012	#26
Why the semantic acrobatics?	The Stranger	Dec 2012	#108
There are semantic acrobatics because the zionist apologists have nothing else.	byeya	Dec 2012	#121
Zionist apologist?	King_David	Dec 2012	#126
"The national movement for the return of the Jewish people to THEIR homeland	cpwm17	Dec 2012	#139
Sorry THAT is not up for debate, nt	King_David	Dec 2012	#144
Maybe for you, because you're clearly a fundie	cpwm17	Dec 2012	#145
The Democratic Party and its rank and file and Reps	King_David	Dec 2012	#146
You have no argument	cpwm17	Dec 2012	#147
You have made your views on Jews and Zionists abundantly clear	King_David	Dec 2012	#149
You've got nothing	cpwm17	Dec 2012	#150
Your absolutly clueless about that,	King_David	Dec 2012	#152
Your support for the Palestinian Nakba isn't pretty	cpwm17	Dec 2012	#155
LOL did you read what I said about being an Atheist ?	King_David	Dec 2012	#156
From your post above:	cpwm17	Dec 2012	#159
Nah its clear you do not get any of it ,	King_David	Dec 2012	#160
Thank you for the truth, cpwm17	Carolina	Dec 2012	#163
If he was truly anti semitic he probably wouldn't be for the progressive's either.	go west young man	Dec 2012	#18
There Was Nothing Anti-Simitic	1ProudAtheist	Dec 2012	#22
Someone who says Zionism equals fascism is not on my side.	former9thward	Dec 2012	#27
At one point Zionism was compatible with democracy.	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#31
Fascism, Zionism, Democracy	1ProudAtheist	Dec 2012	#35
What does criticism of	billh58	Dec 2012	#30
The poster did not say anything of that now did they?	former9thward	Dec 2012	#59
Cheap shot accusations of anti-semitism. How boring. And how predictable.	Comrade Grumpy	Dec 2012	#44
Just as predictable as your anti-Israel rants, right?	former9thward	Dec 2012	#58
Unlike you rabid Zionists, I don't falsely accuse others of being racists.	Comrade Grumpy	Dec 2012	#96
I beg to differ	Stewland	Dec 2012	#169
No you got it wrong, Here let me help you out,	King_David	Dec 2012	#21
Not To Seem Argumnetative	1ProudAtheist	Dec 2012	#29
Look, I don't know why I let myself get into this, BUT	Bigmack	Dec 2012	#33
`Europeans`	King_David	Dec 2012	#43
Sounds like Israel is becoming some kind of a tyranny	fascisthunter	Dec 2012	#51
Name some names	King_David	Dec 2012	#61
Shas isn't a religious party? They're in the current government...	Violet_Crumble	Dec 2012	#68
That is "Many". ? nt	King_David	Dec 2012	#70
You asked for some. What does it matter?	Violet_Crumble	Dec 2012	#74
Let me help you out following this thread can be difficult ,	King_David	Dec 2012	#75
There's no need to get nasty and patronising...	Violet_Crumble	Dec 2012	#76
Shas is a religious party	sabbat hunter	Dec 2012	#111
"Most Israeli Jews are secular atheists?"	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#83
'But, they are all united in their hate of Arabs and especially Palestinians'	King_David	Dec 2012	#128
well said... the argument is twisted	fascisthunter	Dec 2012	#49
Same here. It's only a matter of time before Israel alienates the majority of Americans.	Walk away	Dec 2012	#112
Just a hint. You can get banned for that, so you might want to edit it. Here's the TOS:	freshwest	Dec 2012	#52
Why should he pretend to change his views?	King_David	Dec 2012	#133
That word...	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#90
I don't think the word 'Zionism' is the problem. It's the '...Zionist hold sway over our government'	freshwest	Dec 2012	#140
Two-state solution has been dead since 2000.	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#23
The E1 plan and its implications for human rights in the West Bank	Jefferson23	Dec 2012	#32
The religious crazies in Israel want more Lebensraum.	Odin2005	Dec 2012	#34
Fascinating that you choose a Nazi-era German term	oberliner	Dec 2012	#40
Seems painfully apt.	Comrade Grumpy	Dec 2012	#46
the notion that victims of abuse become abusers themselves...	Odin2005	Dec 2012	#48
Most Israelis are not victims of any abuse	oberliner	Dec 2012	#79
So spell it out for those of us who do not understand this 'analogy'	King_David	Dec 2012	#62
Comparing Israelis to Nazis?	oberliner	Dec 2012	#80
If the shoe fits...	Odin2005	Dec 2012	#47
This message was self-deleted by its author	Bad_Ronald	Dec 2012	#78
You agree that Israel is similar to Nazi Germany?	oberliner	Dec 2012	#82
This message was self-deleted by its author	Bad_Ronald	Dec 2012	#84
You would prefer apartheid South Africa with a theocratic twist.	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#86
There is nothing theocratic about Israel	oberliner	Dec 2012	#91
Can a Jew marry a Muslim in Israel?	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#93
Not legally	oberliner	Dec 2012	#131
This is what you call 'legal equality?'	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#134
Except that Palestinians can't vote so it's kind of a sucky "democracy" for them...nt	Walk away	Dec 2012	#114
Palestinian citizens of Israel can vote in Israel	oberliner	Dec 2012	#132
This message was self-deleted by its author	Bad_Ronald	Dec 2012	#115
You think that's a lie	oberliner	Dec 2012	#116
This message was self-deleted by its author	Bad_Ronald	Dec 2012	#118
So that one was true but the other one is a lie?	oberliner	Dec 2012	#124
This message was self-deleted by its author	Bad_Ronald	Dec 2012	#125
They are both recent quotes	oberliner	Dec 2012	#127
Your views on Israel are clear,	King_David	Dec 2012	#130
Comparing Israelis to Nazis?	oberliner	Dec 2012	#81
This message was self-deleted by its author	Bad_Ronald	Dec 2012	#88
The jackboot of oppression?	oberliner	Dec 2012	#92
This message was self-deleted by its author	Bad_Ronald	Dec 2012	#122
Not in any way that is comparable to what went on in Nazi Germany	oberliner	Dec 2012	#129
This message was self-deleted by its author	Bad_Ronald	Dec 2012	#143
We took the land away from our native Americans ...we are hypocrites!	L0oniX	Dec 2012	#36
I've never seen anyone on here defending that action.	Crunchy Frog	Dec 2012	#66
Read somewhere that Israel is now witholding 100 Million of the Palestinians Government money...	Xolodno	Dec 2012	#38
Well this doesn't come as any surprise	4dsc	Dec 2012	#54
Does no one see the obvious contradiction here?	Fozzledick	Dec 2012	#65
A good observation about a poor word choice.	Chef Eric	Dec 2012	#77
Fail. It was a vote, not a global assertion universally accepted.	harun	Dec 2012	#105
Fail is not a noun.	Chef Eric	Dec 2012	#113
Fuck off is an intransitive verb, just say'n.	harun	Dec 2012	#151
It doesn't change the fact that the Israelis are an invading army occupying the land	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#85
To many all of Israel is occupied territory	hack89	Dec 2012	#94
Israel rejected the 67 borders as a starting point for negotiations. They are a dead letter.	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#98
Well, Israel is currently occupying Syrian territory. Did we forget about that? Been for decades.	The Stranger	Dec 2012	#109
Israel and Syria are also technically at war	hack89	Dec 2012	#110
Because Israel isn't going to give them back the Golan.	The Stranger	Dec 2012	#135
Kind of moot at the moment anyway	hack89	Dec 2012	#138
For what? They're not going to get their land back, even you make that clear.	The Stranger	Dec 2012	#153
No - I never said they would never get their land back.	hack89	Dec 2012	#154
The Sinai was 30 years ago. That's a couple decades more than enough time for Israel to withdraw	The Stranger	Dec 2012	#157
Did you miss the part about a peace treaty?	hack89	Dec 2012	#158
Yeah, I seem to remember a peace treaty. That was 30 years ago as well.	The Stranger	Dec 2012	#161
Wars end with peace treaties.	hack89	Dec 2012	#162
Link to the international law you cite.	The Stranger	Dec 2012	#165
WWII ended with treaties with all parties	hack89	Dec 2012	#166
Link to the international law you cite.	The Stranger	Dec 2012	#167
Wars don't end until the participants end them	hack89	Dec 2012	#168
Link to the international law you cite.	The Stranger	Dec 2012	#171
"There is no requirement in international law..."	hack89	Dec 2012	#172
Link to the international law you cite.	The Stranger	Dec 2012	#173
"international law does not say ..."	hack89	Dec 2012	#174
Obama needs to cut off all aid until Israel agrees to a PERMANENT moratorium on settlement expansion	Ken Burch	Dec 2012	#69
They have enough unoccupied space already	Franker65	Dec 2012	#87
The Middle East chicken-and-egg blame game marches on	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#89
Eventually, yes. Israel is doing us a favor by stopping its charade. nt	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#101
They were only announcing what they had on the books before the current conflict	Hydra	Dec 2012	#117
The standard US Israel/Palestine playbook:	geek tragedy	Dec 2012	#120
Means to an end	Hydra	Dec 2012	#123
thank you	Carolina	Dec 2012	#164
What kind of idiot still thinks these people want peace?	harun	Dec 2012	#104
The ones invested in the PR for this rather ugly operation	Hydra	Dec 2012	#119
One land, two peoples, two realities, two truths/lies need	kiranon	Dec 2012	#175

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