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In the discussion thread: Republican Doomsday Plan: Cave on Taxes, Vote ‘Present’ [View all]

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:18 PM

DallasNE (2,963 posts)

20. A Gutless Move Sure To Backfire

A few decades ago our Governor allowed a sales and income tax bill to become law without his signature, in effect voting present, and that ended his political career.

Let them vote "present" and watch Democrats make hay on that vote in 2014 over the gutless nature of that maneuver.

Frankly, leaving the rest of it until after the first of the year could well be for the best. Especially if Reid follows through with the filibuster change. There are way to stretch out the spending cuts so that rather than being a waterfalls they are a rapids.

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67 replies	Author	Time	Post
Republican Doomsday Plan: Cave on Taxes, Vote ‘Present’ [View all]	brooklynite	Dec 2012	OP
"The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law... shall not be questioned"	Drale	Dec 2012	#1
Kind Of Like The Warpowers Act In That Regard	DallasNE	Dec 2012	#21
Your history is wrong.	Indydem	Dec 2012	#61
Actually, My History Is Right	DallasNE	Dec 2012	#62
You won't succeed challenging the constitutionally of the debt authorized by law, only	24601	Dec 2012	#42
That is just asking for carefully worded campaign attack ads	bluestateguy	Dec 2012	#2
Absolutely correct!	okwmember	Dec 2012	#15
"failed to vote" sounds complicated, but imagine a video	JDPriestly	Dec 2012	#24
Failed to vote..	Bette	Dec 2012	#54
I think "REFUSED to vote for" sounds closer to the truth.	kestrel91316	Dec 2012	#26
In tough times.....	Red Mountain	Dec 2012	#44
Please proceed.	FredStembottom	Dec 2012	#3
I say the tax rates have to raise first. After we get the money coming in we can talk	Vincardog	Dec 2012	#4
Plus big time defense cuts in the 100's of billions $ BEFORE any entitlement cut	on point	Dec 2012	#12
Financial Transaction tax	bl968	Dec 2012	#17
It Won't Work!	GatorLarry	Dec 2012	#59
If the financial parasites packed up and left, shat would be the harm?	Vincardog	Dec 2012	#65
Your Day Trading can NOT keep up with Goldman's High Frequency Trading	fasttense	Dec 2012	#67
I especially like the idea of a Financial Transaction tax.	SheilaT	Dec 2012	#29
Nurses	reteachinwi	Dec 2012	#37
Thanks for this and welcome to DU!	AllyCat	Dec 2012	#58
Except that the businesses don't pay it - consumers do as part of the total transaction cost.	24601	Dec 2012	#43
It Won't Work!	GatorLarry	Dec 2012	#60
Why that transaction tax rate?	jmowreader	Dec 2012	#36
Bingo. Exactly right.	crazylikafox	Dec 2012	#56
You know seven-tenths of all stock transactions now are HFT?	jmowreader	Dec 2012	#63
Their doomsday, perhaps. nt	bemildred	Dec 2012	#5
According To The Terms	1ProudAtheist	Dec 2012	#6
Plus, Pelosi Has Threatened A Legislative Maneuver	DallasNE	Dec 2012	#25
Rethugs will be setting up for a rout in 2014	BumRushDaShow	Dec 2012	#7
they are not worried about the pr...	madrchsod	Dec 2012	#13
Because that worked so well for them last election? n/t	melody	Dec 2012	#16
Sun Tzu...	UndahCovah	Dec 2012	#31
I totally agree, UndahCovah -	sevenseas	Dec 2012	#39
But it didn't	melody	Dec 2012	#50
So republicans want the Democrats to have all the credit for the middle class tax cut??	thelordofhell	Dec 2012	#8
The new congress is still repub dominated nt	UndahCovah	Dec 2012	#34
But by then, they should be shamed..........	thelordofhell	Dec 2012	#45
Not congress....just the House. Nt	pkdu	Dec 2012	#52
That's probably an okay short term outcome, but	Still Sensible	Dec 2012	#9
Yeah sure, give us a situation where we can actually say that we alone helped ease the Middle Class	Mr.Turnip	Dec 2012	#10
Republican Aide: "You don’t take a hostage you aren’t willing to shoot”	Jeff In Milwaukee	Dec 2012	#11
holding the debt ceiling didn't work last time	n2doc	Dec 2012	#14
What a bunch of	lyingsackofmitt	Dec 2012	#18
Epic Fail	cosmicone	Dec 2012	#19
This is about the middle-class tax cuts only.	bunnies	Dec 2012	#27
A Gutless Move Sure To Backfire	DallasNE	Dec 2012	#20
Would capital gains and dividend tax cuts also expire?	democrattotheend	Dec 2012	#22
Yes, all the tax cuts will expire	Warpy	Dec 2012	#35
By all means!	Arkana	Dec 2012	#23
Each additional person doing that reduces the power of anyone else doing it, because if you	patrice	Dec 2012	#28
Great Plan Guys!	Botany	Dec 2012	#30
Sounds good to me...	docgee	Dec 2012	#32
take that vote	DearAbby	Dec 2012	#33
Kick (nt)	muriel_volestrangler	Dec 2012	#38
That should	John2	Dec 2012	#40
Just cave gop to the democrats demands and everything will be ok.	hrmjustin	Dec 2012	#41
I still believe there will be a deal to avoid sequestration.	DCBob	Dec 2012	#46
They are really horrible at politics. Propaganda they are great at but politics and governing?-- No	underpants	Dec 2012	#47
What am I missing?	freeandequalpa	Dec 2012	#48
A vote where they dont vote is still a vote and in this case	cstanleytech	Dec 2012	#49
This redefines a "Do Nothing Congress"	Agnosticsherbet	Dec 2012	#51
ROFL? "Doomsday Plan?" Sounds like a pretty humiliating cave to me	alcibiades_mystery	Dec 2012	#53
Please proceed	Cosmocat	Dec 2012	#55
LOL nt	SunSeeker	Dec 2012	#64
Do your jobs you a$$holes!!!	AllyCat	Dec 2012	#57
the us economy will not spin into a depression.	madrchsod	Dec 2012	#66

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