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Violet_Crumble

(35,954 posts)
74. You asked for some. What does it matter?
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:26 AM
Dec 2012

The fact is that there is a strong religious presence in the Israeli govt, and Shas, which is a religious party holds four Cabinet positions. I'm not sure if yr aware of the power that comes with having a Cabinet position, but we're not talking junior guppie folk here...

Israel's government was never interested in peace. It's always been a land grab since at least the craigmatic Dec 2012 #1
I may be naive, but I believe if the government turned around and Labor won... Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #3
+1000 n/t cosmicone Dec 2012 #10
+1000000! Walk away Dec 2012 #106
Europeans apparently are no longer taking their lead from the US. Several countries have sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #148
Exactly. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #170
Israel's provocations are SO transparent n/t KimonoGirl Dec 2012 #2
Ditto. SoapBox Dec 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #4
The Zionist's Have No Interest In Peace 1ProudAtheist Dec 2012 #5
100000000000000000000% correct Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 #12
Well put. go west young man Dec 2012 #15
YES YES YES!!!!!! Bigmack Dec 2012 #25
that book is fictional - you know that right? Mosby Dec 2012 #107
The religious nuts are out-reproducing the liberal Israelis Odin2005 Dec 2012 #37
there are liberal Zionists dlwickham Dec 2012 #53
sadaam murdered a million Iraqis Mosby Dec 2012 #102
Your observation about Saddam would be valid Ken Burch Dec 2012 #141
A question. atreides1 Dec 2012 #7
I believe that Netanyahu's ultra-conservative government will be... Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #8
So all that is left is a one state solution? Paulie Dec 2012 #9
Yes, that's what the Israeli public wants cpwm17 Dec 2012 #11
That poll was bogus, King_David Dec 2012 #19
A solid majority of Israelis are pro-apartheid. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #28
Nah, King_David Dec 2012 #41
I can read election results. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #60
FYI - Livni got more votes than Netanyahu Mosby Dec 2012 #95
A majority of votes were for Netanyahu and those to his right. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #97
Livni received more votes than Netanyahu, that's a fact. Mosby Dec 2012 #99
More than half of Israeli voters voted for a right wing party. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #100
Uh huh ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2012 #103
Israelis show their approval of Israel's current Apartheid government cpwm17 Dec 2012 #39
Changing the goalposts King_David Dec 2012 #42
Here's Haaretz poll with a differentd headline cpwm17 Dec 2012 #50
Gideon Levy was forced to apologize King_David Dec 2012 #55
see comment #63 for Gideon Levy's 'retraction' which was not a retraction of the entire poll as you azurnoir Dec 2012 #64
So what was Levy's apology all about then ? King_David Dec 2012 #72
as stated in the snip he corrected one error and it was not about apartheid azurnoir Dec 2012 #136
Actually, Levy didn't apologise for the poll being bogus... Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #67
So what did Levy apologize for ? King_David Dec 2012 #71
It's already been explained to you several times. I hope you read it this time... Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #73
For something that appeared in a SEPARATE article, quoted below: Ken Burch Dec 2012 #142
okay a right wing Israeli news paper and a gross misreprentation of Gideon Levy's so called retracti azurnoir Dec 2012 #63
Thanks for the link, AZ. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #137
genocide, really magical thyme Dec 2012 #16
genocide ? King_David Dec 2012 #20
I agree. Using a word like "genocide" is ridiculous. virgogal Dec 2012 #24
How about land? That keep pace with population growth? Paulie Dec 2012 #45
How anout Genocide ? nt King_David Dec 2012 #56
Not happening today Paulie Dec 2012 #57
People are finally beginning to see Zionism for what it is Stewland Dec 2012 #13
Your post shows you don't know what Zionism or fascism are. former9thward Dec 2012 #14
The Palestinian people are Semites too, you know. magical thyme Dec 2012 #17
The term antisemitism applies only to Jews,and not other semitic peoples. Let me help you out here , King_David Dec 2012 #26
Why the semantic acrobatics? The Stranger Dec 2012 #108
There are semantic acrobatics because the zionist apologists have nothing else. byeya Dec 2012 #121
Zionist apologist? King_David Dec 2012 #126
"The national movement for the return of the Jewish people to THEIR homeland cpwm17 Dec 2012 #139
Sorry THAT is not up for debate, nt King_David Dec 2012 #144
Maybe for you, because you're clearly a fundie cpwm17 Dec 2012 #145
The Democratic Party and its rank and file and Reps King_David Dec 2012 #146
You have no argument cpwm17 Dec 2012 #147
You have made your views on Jews and Zionists abundantly clear King_David Dec 2012 #149
You've got nothing cpwm17 Dec 2012 #150
Your absolutly clueless about that, King_David Dec 2012 #152
Your support for the Palestinian Nakba isn't pretty cpwm17 Dec 2012 #155
LOL did you read what I said about being an Atheist ? King_David Dec 2012 #156
From your post above: cpwm17 Dec 2012 #159
Nah its clear you do not get any of it , King_David Dec 2012 #160
Thank you for the truth, cpwm17 Carolina Dec 2012 #163
If he was truly anti semitic he probably wouldn't be for the progressive's either. go west young man Dec 2012 #18
There Was Nothing Anti-Simitic 1ProudAtheist Dec 2012 #22
Someone who says Zionism equals fascism is not on my side. former9thward Dec 2012 #27
At one point Zionism was compatible with democracy. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #31
Fascism, Zionism, Democracy 1ProudAtheist Dec 2012 #35
What does criticism of billh58 Dec 2012 #30
The poster did not say anything of that now did they? former9thward Dec 2012 #59
Cheap shot accusations of anti-semitism. How boring. And how predictable. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #44
Just as predictable as your anti-Israel rants, right? former9thward Dec 2012 #58
Unlike you rabid Zionists, I don't falsely accuse others of being racists. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #96
I beg to differ Stewland Dec 2012 #169
No you got it wrong, Here let me help you out, King_David Dec 2012 #21
Not To Seem Argumnetative 1ProudAtheist Dec 2012 #29
Look, I don't know why I let myself get into this, BUT Bigmack Dec 2012 #33
`Europeans` King_David Dec 2012 #43
Sounds like Israel is becoming some kind of a tyranny fascisthunter Dec 2012 #51
Name some names King_David Dec 2012 #61
Shas isn't a religious party? They're in the current government... Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #68
That is "Many". ? nt King_David Dec 2012 #70
You asked for some. What does it matter? Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #74
Let me help you out following this thread can be difficult , King_David Dec 2012 #75
There's no need to get nasty and patronising... Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #76
Shas is a religious party sabbat hunter Dec 2012 #111
"Most Israeli Jews are secular atheists?" geek tragedy Dec 2012 #83
'But, they are all united in their hate of Arabs and especially Palestinians' King_David Dec 2012 #128
well said... the argument is twisted fascisthunter Dec 2012 #49
Same here. It's only a matter of time before Israel alienates the majority of Americans. Walk away Dec 2012 #112
Just a hint. You can get banned for that, so you might want to edit it. Here's the TOS: freshwest Dec 2012 #52
Why should he pretend to change his views? King_David Dec 2012 #133
That word... slackmaster Dec 2012 #90
I don't think the word 'Zionism' is the problem. It's the '...Zionist hold sway over our government' freshwest Dec 2012 #140
Two-state solution has been dead since 2000. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #23
The E1 plan and its implications for human rights in the West Bank Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #32
The religious crazies in Israel want more Lebensraum. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #34
Fascinating that you choose a Nazi-era German term oberliner Dec 2012 #40
Seems painfully apt. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #46
the notion that victims of abuse become abusers themselves... Odin2005 Dec 2012 #48
Most Israelis are not victims of any abuse oberliner Dec 2012 #79
So spell it out for those of us who do not understand this 'analogy' King_David Dec 2012 #62
Comparing Israelis to Nazis? oberliner Dec 2012 #80
If the shoe fits... Odin2005 Dec 2012 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Bad_Ronald Dec 2012 #78
You agree that Israel is similar to Nazi Germany? oberliner Dec 2012 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author Bad_Ronald Dec 2012 #84
You would prefer apartheid South Africa with a theocratic twist. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #86
There is nothing theocratic about Israel oberliner Dec 2012 #91
Can a Jew marry a Muslim in Israel? geek tragedy Dec 2012 #93
Not legally oberliner Dec 2012 #131
This is what you call 'legal equality?' geek tragedy Dec 2012 #134
Except that Palestinians can't vote so it's kind of a sucky "democracy" for them...nt Walk away Dec 2012 #114
Palestinian citizens of Israel can vote in Israel oberliner Dec 2012 #132
This message was self-deleted by its author Bad_Ronald Dec 2012 #115
You think that's a lie oberliner Dec 2012 #116
This message was self-deleted by its author Bad_Ronald Dec 2012 #118
So that one was true but the other one is a lie? oberliner Dec 2012 #124
This message was self-deleted by its author Bad_Ronald Dec 2012 #125
They are both recent quotes oberliner Dec 2012 #127
Your views on Israel are clear, King_David Dec 2012 #130
Comparing Israelis to Nazis? oberliner Dec 2012 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author Bad_Ronald Dec 2012 #88
The jackboot of oppression? oberliner Dec 2012 #92
This message was self-deleted by its author Bad_Ronald Dec 2012 #122
Not in any way that is comparable to what went on in Nazi Germany oberliner Dec 2012 #129
This message was self-deleted by its author Bad_Ronald Dec 2012 #143
We took the land away from our native Americans ...we are hypocrites! L0oniX Dec 2012 #36
I've never seen anyone on here defending that action. Crunchy Frog Dec 2012 #66
Read somewhere that Israel is now witholding 100 Million of the Palestinians Government money... Xolodno Dec 2012 #38
Well this doesn't come as any surprise 4dsc Dec 2012 #54
Does no one see the obvious contradiction here? Fozzledick Dec 2012 #65
A good observation about a poor word choice. Chef Eric Dec 2012 #77
Fail. It was a vote, not a global assertion universally accepted. harun Dec 2012 #105
Fail is not a noun. Chef Eric Dec 2012 #113
Fuck off is an intransitive verb, just say'n. harun Dec 2012 #151
It doesn't change the fact that the Israelis are an invading army occupying the land geek tragedy Dec 2012 #85
To many all of Israel is occupied territory hack89 Dec 2012 #94
Israel rejected the 67 borders as a starting point for negotiations. They are a dead letter. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #98
Well, Israel is currently occupying Syrian territory. Did we forget about that? Been for decades. The Stranger Dec 2012 #109
Israel and Syria are also technically at war hack89 Dec 2012 #110
Because Israel isn't going to give them back the Golan. The Stranger Dec 2012 #135
Kind of moot at the moment anyway hack89 Dec 2012 #138
For what? They're not going to get their land back, even you make that clear. The Stranger Dec 2012 #153
No - I never said they would never get their land back. hack89 Dec 2012 #154
The Sinai was 30 years ago. That's a couple decades more than enough time for Israel to withdraw The Stranger Dec 2012 #157
Did you miss the part about a peace treaty? hack89 Dec 2012 #158
Yeah, I seem to remember a peace treaty. That was 30 years ago as well. The Stranger Dec 2012 #161
Wars end with peace treaties. hack89 Dec 2012 #162
Link to the international law you cite. The Stranger Dec 2012 #165
WWII ended with treaties with all parties hack89 Dec 2012 #166
Link to the international law you cite. The Stranger Dec 2012 #167
Wars don't end until the participants end them hack89 Dec 2012 #168
Link to the international law you cite. The Stranger Dec 2012 #171
"There is no requirement in international law..." hack89 Dec 2012 #172
Link to the international law you cite. The Stranger Dec 2012 #173
"international law does not say ..." hack89 Dec 2012 #174
Obama needs to cut off all aid until Israel agrees to a PERMANENT moratorium on settlement expansion Ken Burch Dec 2012 #69
They have enough unoccupied space already Franker65 Dec 2012 #87
The Middle East chicken-and-egg blame game marches on slackmaster Dec 2012 #89
Eventually, yes. Israel is doing us a favor by stopping its charade. nt geek tragedy Dec 2012 #101
They were only announcing what they had on the books before the current conflict Hydra Dec 2012 #117
The standard US Israel/Palestine playbook: geek tragedy Dec 2012 #120
Means to an end Hydra Dec 2012 #123
thank you Carolina Dec 2012 #164
What kind of idiot still thinks these people want peace? harun Dec 2012 #104
The ones invested in the PR for this rather ugly operation Hydra Dec 2012 #119
One land, two peoples, two realities, two truths/lies need kiranon Dec 2012 #175
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