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In the discussion thread: Grover Norquist: 'Tea Party Two Is Going To Dwarf Tea Party One (if Obama pushes us off the cliff)' [View all]

Response to RickFromMN (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 01:59 AM

jeff47 (7,452 posts)

64. Actually, the debt limit isn't a problem either.

Congress passed bill A that says "Spend this much".

Congress passed bill B that says "Don't borrow more than this".

If nothing changes, those two laws will be in conflict. Obama can't follow bill A and spend the money, because that would run afoul of bill B. Likewise, Obama can't follow bill B and not borrow money, because that would run afoul of bill A.

When this happened in the past, the Executive branch picked which of the two laws they will be following and asked Congress to resolve the conflict.

So Obama can choose to follow bill A and ignore bill B until Congress resolves the conflict.

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139 replies	Author	Time	Post
Grover Norquist: 'Tea Party Two Is Going To Dwarf Tea Party One (if Obama pushes us off the cliff)' [View all]	michigandem58	Dec 2012	OP
that was directed straight at the fringe who constitute his die hard true believers....	mike_c	Dec 2012	#1
He does realize that TP1 was about unfair tax breaks for corporations and the rich doesn't he?	Vincardog	Dec 2012	#108
It's gonna have f#cking cucumber sammitches!!!	FredStembottom	Dec 2012	#2
LOL!	Squinch	Dec 2012	#17
Double that...	Marie Marie	Dec 2012	#42
With the crust cut off? Gimme some f#cking Earl Grey, too!	JustABozoOnThisBus	Dec 2012	#89
Good one	Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin	Dec 2012	#131
or maybe norquist becomes an irrelevent pimp, and while I am at it, fuck nbc for giving this guy	still_one	Dec 2012	#3
And he was on TV	LovingA2andMI	Dec 2012	#65
same here	still_one	Dec 2012	#67
I will second that. It is a worthless waste of time and electricity.	olegramps	Dec 2012	#88
What a Miserable little toad!	sheshe2	Dec 2012	#4
An ugly little man in mind, spirit and appearance! n/t	RKP5637	Dec 2012	#26
Soooooooooo true!	xtraxritical	Dec 2012	#57
Grover Norquist remains at the center of the conversation.	AlbertCat	Dec 2012	#5
"Tea Party II - When One Batch Of Assholes Isn't Enough"	TheCowsCameHome	Dec 2012	#6
Tea Party II also known as Porky's Revenge.	Squinch	Dec 2012	#19
Tea Party II? More like Tea Party 2.0 because	Marie Marie	Dec 2012	#44
Who's pushing us over the cliff?	Kablooie	Dec 2012	#7
Well said!	Overseas	Dec 2012	#53
bull shit Grover	oldhippydude	Dec 2012	#8
A brilliant strategy to elect more Republicans	Gman	Dec 2012	#9
So TP2	Flatpicker	Dec 2012	#10
Grover's scared	DJ13	Dec 2012	#11
How can one squirrely lobbyist hold the largest most powerful nation in the world ...	MindMover	Dec 2012	#12
I guess I've forgotten who it was,,	Permanut	Dec 2012	#13
How will the Koch brothers react when Norquist's friends push the United States into default?	RickFromMN	Dec 2012	#14
Yes, the Koches fund the Tea Party, Libertarians and most CT. They want default, though. Really.	freshwest	Dec 2012	#61
Actually, the debt limit isn't a problem either.	jeff47	Dec 2012	#64
Interesting. I didn't know the Executive branch could pick the one to follow.	RickFromMN	Dec 2012	#117
A "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" kind of cliff, after all	bhikkhu	Dec 2012	#15
They call that 'hedging' :) - n/t	coalition_unwilling	Dec 2012	#69
Doing twice as much of the same dumb stuff's gonna get you a better result? Optimist. n/t	jtuck004	Dec 2012	#16
double down	shanti	Dec 2012	#94
Of Course, Media Gives RW A Free Pass On Talking Points	TomCADem	Dec 2012	#18
"Tea Party Two Is Going To Dwarf Tea Party One"	canuckledragger	Dec 2012	#20
"Tea party 3D: This time it's personal."	Fire Walk With Me	Dec 2012	#21
Ewwwww!	Squinch	Dec 2012	#29
Sorry; was only riffing from the film title "Jaws 3D". It was a flop	Fire Walk With Me	Dec 2012	#116
No, no! I got the reference and laughed. But then Grover's ickiness came to mind.	Squinch	Dec 2012	#121
And Tea Party 3? Don't even ASK him about Tea Party 3! It's going to be HUGE!	Squinch	Dec 2012	#22
Tea Party 3! It's going to be HUGH!	AAO	Dec 2012	#27
LOL!	Squinch	Dec 2012	#28
In picture form:	coalition_unwilling	Dec 2012	#70
Wow, those morans are series!	Turborama	Dec 2012	#77
Hughly.	Squinch	Dec 2012	#119
They must be going to the insane	oldbanjo	Dec 2012	#73
They're making that one in 3-D	rucky	Dec 2012	#78
I wish I was talented at Photoshop. I have a mental picture of an angry woman of about 65	Squinch	Dec 2012	#120
And it will be infinitely crazier and dumb	neverforget	Dec 2012	#23
Roll Them Around	1ProudAtheist	Dec 2012	#24
Send him to Sesame Street for a Time Out and review of Playground Rules.	libdem4life	Dec 2012	#25
and maybe	ut oh	Dec 2012	#122
I can see it ... Big Bird's yellow wing on his drooping shoulder ... "Here's the thing, Mitt..."	libdem4life	Dec 2012	#125
It's over Grover...Fuck Off!	SoapBox	Dec 2012	#30
Archaic	november3rd	Dec 2012	#31
I can't wait to see tea party two.	JoeyT	Dec 2012	#32
Tea PArty? Why dont we call it what it really is. The American Nazi Party. Afterall thats how they	cstanleytech	Dec 2012	#33
I agree with you.	oldbanjo	Dec 2012	#74
Red Grover Red Grover	Blue Owl	Dec 2012	#34
I'm sick of this loser's	cilla4progress	Dec 2012	#35
Go right ahead	DonCoquixote	Dec 2012	#36
So big and powerful they just lost the last election?	Botany	Dec 2012	#37
New slogan: "Tea Party Two: Even More Racist, Stupid, and Crazy"	6000eliot	Dec 2012	#38
I say Bring It!	joanbarnes	Dec 2012	#39
LOL. So much for the "grass roots" canard.	PSPS	Dec 2012	#40
Here is the Tea Party Two...	Kablooie	Dec 2012	#41
my takeaway from that was: Grover Norquist, Dwarf. n/t	JBoy	Dec 2012	#43
Tea Party 2:	Laochtine	Dec 2012	#45
My message to Grover Norquist:	Mr.Bill	Dec 2012	#46
Tea Party 2, new and improved!	Canuckistanian	Dec 2012	#47
Who cares what he thinks?	rocktivity	Dec 2012	#48
Sequels don't do well	Kennah	Dec 2012	#49
Most of the teabagger loudmouths	The Wizard	Dec 2012	#50
I hope Norquist calls them tea party 2.	Baitball Blogger	Dec 2012	#51
Tea Party II = Vista	volstork	Dec 2012	#52
Who wants to volunteer to give Grover a wedgie?	graywarrior	Dec 2012	#54
it's got to be an atomic, he deserves it. nt	Raine	Dec 2012	#132
They can smell our fear.	Mr.Bill	Dec 2012	#55
Why does the think anyone takes him seriously?	mzmolly	Dec 2012	#56
"I'm not becoming irrelevant," he shouted, stamping his foot. "I'm not. I'm not. I'm not." . . .	Journeyman	Dec 2012	#58
Twice as much Astroturf nt	BlueStreak	Dec 2012	#59
What a nitwit.	harmonicon	Dec 2012	#60
Tea party 2 is Troll 2	Springslips	Dec 2012	#62
Funny he should use the word "dwarf"...	aquart	Dec 2012	#63
Grover is given airtime because why?	Hekate	Dec 2012	#66
Oh, please. "Pushes us off the cliff"? WTF, the cliff was the result	coalition_unwilling	Dec 2012	#68
I've only got one	John2	Dec 2012	#71
Sure it will, it will be twice as dumb.	diane in sf	Dec 2012	#72
Tea Party 1 made threats and other stupid things	oldbanjo	Dec 2012	#75
Better do it fast	Sky Masterson	Dec 2012	#76
Tea Party 2: Electric Boogaloo	rucky	Dec 2012	#79
OK. You win.	Jeff In Milwaukee	Dec 2012	#110
Double down on the same losing strategy used in 2012? Is that a threat or a promise??	Fearless	Dec 2012	#80
Tea Party 2...	SummerSnow	Dec 2012	#81
Oh now I see...	SummerSnow	Dec 2012	#82
Nobody ever voted for this guy - his 15 minutes are up.	polichick	Dec 2012	#83
As Clair McCaskill said: "Who is this guy?"	liberal N proud	Dec 2012	#84
Big deal. Two years and they'll have disappeared, too.	marble falls	Dec 2012	#85
When is someone going to buck up the courage to do the following to Grover:	HughBeaumont	Dec 2012	#86
They'll have to invest in more Port-o-Potties...n/t	BuelahWitch	Dec 2012	#87
They'll smell like number two, too	Politicub	Dec 2012	#90
Grover has to ask Koch for a raise cause no nutter works for free	Sunlei	Dec 2012	#91
What do you mean "us"?	Turbineguy	Dec 2012	#92
so he is admitting that the tea party is the invention of his money men?	mopinko	Dec 2012	#93
From the words of George W .....	flying-skeleton	Dec 2012	#95
Will Rick Santelli be Tea Potty II Leader?	bucolic_frolic	Dec 2012	#96
tea part two? a little roughage could help with that.	Javaman	Dec 2012	#97
When Norquist looks to Baghdad Bob for inspiration,	closeupready	Dec 2012	#98
These idiot R's remind me of Wiley Coyote	The Blue Flower	Dec 2012	#99
Remember the Teabaggers said "We come unarmed, this time."	alfredo	Dec 2012	#100
I thought those were the Freepers.	KansDem	Dec 2012	#112
It is mind numbing.	alfredo	Dec 2012	#138
Tea Party 2, The Revenge.	Ash_F	Dec 2012	#101
Tea party two attack of the dwarfs?	Rambis	Dec 2012	#102
Bring it on. Ive got my dictionary.	Agnosticsherbet	Dec 2012	#103
I'll go you one better!	KansDem	Dec 2012	#106
Did anyone ask	homegirl	Dec 2012	#104
Holy shit!	2pooped2pop	Dec 2012	#105
Damn those Metamucil smoothies.	alfredo	Dec 2012	#107
I think the Porta Potty industry underwrites the Tea Terrorists.	BuelahWitch	Dec 2012	#114
The billionaires who back this slug are threatening the people.	Skidmore	Dec 2012	#109
Grover Wants Transparency	homegirl	Dec 2012	#111
Grover Norquist: "I'm still relevant! Lookee me I'm talking over here! Listen to me!"	Thav	Dec 2012	#113
The tea and Kool-Aid are jointly circling the bathtub drain and taking Grover with them. n/t	IDemo	Dec 2012	#115
What a little crap he is.......	dinger130	Dec 2012	#118
Whatever, asshole.	WeekendWarrior	Dec 2012	#123
You're right Grover, we shouldn't.	FVZA_Colonel	Dec 2012	#124
Sorry Grovie but all the tea party volunteers will be dead because of your medicare cuts	Dont call me Shirley	Dec 2012	#126
LOL! All the republicans have left is lies & threats - They have nothing else - listen to them	LaPera	Dec 2012	#127
Norquist is politically DEAD here in Wisconsin. I suggest, Grover, that you simply STFU-Huffpo too.	bobthedrummer	Dec 2012	#128
Oooh, was that a threat from Fuzzy Lumpkins?	ElboRuum	Dec 2012	#129
A real Mad, Mad Tea Party and a message for Grover	LongTomH	Dec 2012	#130
So TeaBaggers #1 lasted only three years?	underpants	Dec 2012	#133
It's going to have TWICE AS MANY SPELLING ERRORS IN ITS PROTEST SIGNS!	Downtown Hound	Dec 2012	#134
The only people trying to push us off of the damned cliff is	Third Doctor	Dec 2012	#135
I read that quote real fast and saw the words "Dwarf Tea Party" first.	Ken Burch	Dec 2012	#136
LOL....they will be like "Born Again Christians"	Skittles	Dec 2012	#137
Tea Party II will be a direct-to-video sequel...	Beartracks	Dec 2012	#139

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