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In the discussion thread: Anger as Hungary far-right leader demands lists of Jews [View all]

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:33 PM

Carolina (5,785 posts)

50. The criticism of Israel is about

its leaders and those complicit with them in what Israel has long been doing to the Palestinians, Lebanese and others in its immediate region. Israeli actions against Palestinians are analogous to Germany/Europe's against Jews in WWII. The victims have become the victimizers with the aid of US dollars and military support and the glaring habit of the US to castigate any Arab nation that fails to abide by UN sanctions while giving Israel a pass when it does likewise and even when it kills US citizens (e.g. Rachel Corie, Furkan Dogan).

Isreal's reactions to Hamas are frequently on the level of America's Shock & Awe against Iraq: overblown with considerable collateral damage that only seeds further hatred and kills the innocent.

Hamas like Al-Queda may be terrrorist but it is not a nation or state; and bombing an area to smithereens to get a cell or group has yet to yield any lasting coexistence, much less peace.

Criticism of Israel is not anti-semitic; it's anti-injustice. And Israel is the bully of the Middle East

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84 replies	Author	Time	Post
Anger as Hungary far-right leader demands lists of Jews [View all]	ButterflyBlood	Nov 2012	OP
OMG	BainsBane	Nov 2012	#1
When is the next election and how soon can this nut be voted out? nt	kelliekat44	Nov 2012	#65
Gee, a quart of gasoline and a	cliffordu	Nov 2012	#2
Let me check the calendar.	Beacool	Nov 2012	#3
shit	struggle4progress	Nov 2012	#4
What the hell?	Ash_F	Nov 2012	#5
Are you fucking kidding me?	Orrex	Nov 2012	#6
Intolerance	elbloggoZY27	Nov 2012	#7
They exist in every generation in every nation.	liberalhistorian	Nov 2012	#15
Maybe it's time...	OnlinePoker	Nov 2012	#8
Remember when Nixon	The Wizard	Nov 2012	#9
Yep... you gotta watch out for the Jews.	harmonicon	Nov 2012	#10
It sounds so shocking yet, I was reminded of	iemitsu	Nov 2012	#11
You wish the attitude of Marton Gyongyosi was confined to Hungary?	Tansy_Gold	Nov 2012	#51
Your wish is better than mine.	iemitsu	Nov 2012	#59
Learning has taken place	Tansy_Gold	Nov 2012	#60
And I am grateful.	iemitsu	Nov 2012	#61
Jim Crow	JustAnotherGen	Dec 2012	#71
No, our faces aren't clean in the context of our own history	iemitsu	Dec 2012	#73
What a disturbing article. Europe in 2012.	David Zephyr	Nov 2012	#12
The sad thing is such a list likely already exists.	Behind the Aegis	Nov 2012	#13
They're probably compiling one; they try to screen their members via genetics tests. (nt)	Posteritatis	Nov 2012	#31
You're assuming there's a genetic difference between Jews and the rest of humanity	lunatica	Nov 2012	#36
I'm not, the idiots in Jobbik are. (nt)	Posteritatis	Nov 2012	#44
Wouldn't surprise me in the least.	Bohunk68	Nov 2012	#35
That's a fascinating story	lunatica	Nov 2012	#38
A list like this is trivially easy to make nowadays.	Xithras	Nov 2012	#54
Far Right political parties on the rise....	NickP	Nov 2012	#14
Where did they get this nut? This is dangerous and could cost Hungary tourists. get rid of him.	hrmjustin	Nov 2012	#16
Never go away, do they?	Ken Burch	Nov 2012	#17
For anybody considering a trip to Hungary, here's the Jobbik logo...	Ken Burch	Nov 2012	#18
FYI	Old Union Guy	Dec 2012	#76
First and foremost, Jobbik is an anti-communist, anti-secularist party.	David__77	Nov 2012	#19
True. It is also ethno-nationalist, right-wing populist and anti-globalization.	pampango	Nov 2012	#25
The far-right is old school in Eastern Europe...	leftlibdem420	Nov 2012	#20
Actually, it is NOT unmentioned. It's right in the excerpt posted.	cali	Nov 2012	#26
I don't know what outrages me more.	iandhr	Nov 2012	#21
History	ahostett	Nov 2012	#22
If he was American	sackabanana	Nov 2012	#23
When people on DU criticize Israel, they need to remember this.	JDPriestly	Nov 2012	#24
This is horrifying and we can never let it happen again	Marrah_G	Nov 2012	#40
no one is doubting anti semitism exists	booley	Nov 2012	#49
+1	peacebird	Dec 2012	#77
The criticism of Israel is about	Carolina	Nov 2012	#50
Israel is geographically encircled by hostile nations and	JDPriestly	Dec 2012	#67
"the Palestinians are the ones who hold the power to change the situation"	Carolina	Dec 2012	#70
Your comparison does not work.	JDPriestly	Dec 2012	#72
right. it's more like apartheid South Africa or occupied east timor	booley	Dec 2012	#78
Except that Israel has the US as its friend and can negotiate	JDPriestly	Dec 2012	#79
thank you	Carolina	Dec 2012	#81
My analogy does hold	Carolina	Dec 2012	#82
If vilification of Jews for sport were a thing of the past, I might	JDPriestly	Dec 2012	#83
I am very critical of some of Israel's actions	democrattotheend	Dec 2012	#75
I fully agree when it comes to criticism of Israel's very existence	LeftishBrit	Nov 2012	#56
Any state can be legitimately criticized for certain of its actions,	JDPriestly	Dec 2012	#66
Couldn't have said it better	democrattotheend	Dec 2012	#74
my cousins in that region decamped last year. i would be looking to emigrate if i was jewish	loli phabay	Nov 2012	#27
No Need in 2012,	King_David	Nov 2012	#64
Thanks. That is why Israel has to be protected.	JDPriestly	Dec 2012	#80
Didnt the world already try this	MFM008	Nov 2012	#28
how about a list of dangerous rightwing nutjobs	Skittles	Nov 2012	#29
A previous leader of that party was getting members gene-tested for "Jewish ancestry," too	Posteritatis	Nov 2012	#30
He probably believes the earth is 50 years old. n/t	2on2u	Nov 2012	#32
Is a 'List of Muslims' any less offending? (n/t)	Nictuku	Nov 2012	#33
Where was that in the article?	Behind the Aegis	Nov 2012	#34
didn't read the article (on dialup and it takes forever and a day)	Bohunk68	Nov 2012	#37
and you would be wrong. he is not, according to the article, anti-Muslim	cali	Nov 2012	#42
Not the first time I've been in error.	Bohunk68	Nov 2012	#45
Exactly. And thank you!	David Zephyr	Nov 2012	#55
This post was hidden by jury decision.	cali	Nov 2012	#41
WHy does George Soros live in the US?	AngryAmish	Nov 2012	#39
What does that have to do with the article?	UnrepentantLiberal	Nov 2012	#46
He is a Hungarian Jew	AngryAmish	Nov 2012	#47
He has been a US citizen for many years	LeftishBrit	Nov 2012	#57
That is my point. He is here because of shiat like this.	AngryAmish	Nov 2012	#62
Now this is the kind of shit that needs to be stopped by the international community.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Nov 2012	#43
so they aren't even going to pretend they aren't nazis	booley	Nov 2012	#48
That's exactly what I thought during the election season this year	iemitsu	Dec 2012	#69
Oh, we've never seen anything like this before!	barnabas63	Nov 2012	#52
the shoes beside the Danube	struggle4progress	Nov 2012	#53
Ugh. Like Poland, Hungary hasn't changed as much as it might in certain respects.	LeftishBrit	Nov 2012	#58
Jesus. These idiots in Hungary and the Golden Dawn in Greece...	Odin2005	Nov 2012	#63
It isn't just the far-right...	Behind the Aegis	Dec 2012	#68
When bad things happen, we tend to be the scape goat at one point or another	sakabatou	Dec 2012	#84

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