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Xithras

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68. How much does Apple pay you anyway? Did someone from Samsung run over your dog?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:56 PM
Nov 2012

Personally, when I hear an Apple fan ranting about Samsung, it simply confirms their cluelessness of the subject. Android and Samsung aren't the same thing. The recent Apple and media fixation on Samsung overlooks this one basic and incredibly important fact: Samsung had NOTHING to do with the development of Android. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Zilch.

When Google was developing their internal prototypes, they did it with HTC. The first Android phone was the Google Nexus, which was manufactured by HTC. The first third party Android phone? The HTC Dream. Samsung was a bit of a latecomer to the Android world, and they're one of more than a dozen companies making Android devices today. If Samsung were to pull out of the phone market today, it might give Apple a little bit of breathing room, but it certainly wouldn't eliminate the competition (the fact that Samsung is doing so well indicates that Apple is missing some major market points with their product, a void that the other manufacturers would quickly rush to fill).

It's a fact of history that Samsung was one of the device manufacturers that Google was demonstrating the Android OS to in late 2006. And what did Google show them? The Nexus One:



Samsung was shown this phone long before the first iPhone photos were released. Take off that trackball and tell me what you see. Then, of course, there's the F700 thing. No, I'm not talking about the debunked claim that it preceded the iPhone, but the very factual reality that a fully functional F700, with that very design, was demonstrated at CeBit 2007 a mere 29 days after Jobs gave the world its first glimpses of the iPhone. Once again, absolutely NOBODY with a background in electronics engineering believes that Samsung could have designed a complete touchscreen phone with a fully customized touch OS in only 29 days. I've worked with some extremely talented engineers over the years, and none of them could have pulled off an engineering feat like that.



Anyone with a modicum of understanding of the subject understands what happened here. The facts are clear, they are well documented, and they are solidly on the side of Google. The touchscreen was not new. The form factor was not new. The technology was not new. Both Google and Apple were working on their platforms for MANY years before they were released to the public. This can be confirmed by anyone who knows how to use a search engine. Apple has always had a culture of secrecy and kept the iPhone under wraps, but Google does NOT and NEVER HAS. There are literally HUNDREDS of articles on tech news sites and blogs discussing Google's Android OS and phone development, starting YEARS before the first models were shown to the public. Google has a terrible track record when it comes to keeping secrets, and the fact that they were developing a smartphone OS has been public knowledge since 2004.

You can believe what you want, but there are simply no facts to back up that theft claim. The only thing Google stole was Apple's limelight.

I think the Nexus 4 is a game changer. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #1
Every Google, Samsung, and Windows phone have been called 'iPhone killers.' onehandle Nov 2012 #2
You don't sound objective tkmorris Nov 2012 #7
That's an understatement sir pball Nov 2012 #13
^^THIS^^ MessiahRp Nov 2012 #20
+1. dchill Nov 2012 #26
+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #71
onehandle is anything but objective. If he's not on the Apple payroll, Hosnon Nov 2012 #22
copies? ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #10
and i'll put my cheap, plastic s3 up against your cutesy toy any day frylock Nov 2012 #28
In sales, not power and features. tridim Nov 2012 #29
I prefer the Galaxy Note 2 Ter Nov 2012 #6
Me too. Bought one a few weeks ago. LOVE it. SunSeeker Nov 2012 #8
Waiting to get my Note 2 on Thursday qanda Nov 2012 #27
The Note 2 is almost twice the price as the Nexus 4. DesMoinesDem Nov 2012 #74
I managed to get one. It's a very nice phone. tinrobot Nov 2012 #43
I've had iPhones and Androids -- Galaxy S III is my current favorite. Zen Democrat Nov 2012 #3
I didn't know t-mobile had a version.. Ron Obvious Nov 2012 #65
Don't get it!! janlyn Nov 2012 #4
Whats not to get? ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #11
Love my Android phone BuddhaGirl Nov 2012 #25
Why does this matter? rablrouzer Nov 2012 #5
Bingo sir pball Nov 2012 #17
Yup TM99 Nov 2012 #54
"My phone is bigger than yours!!!!!" nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2012 #56
And this is Late Breaking News because .... meegbear Nov 2012 #9
Because a similar headline a couple of weeks ago about a Korean company's phone... onehandle Nov 2012 #12
who heaven05 Nov 2012 #14
And they're still miserably behind globally sir pball Nov 2012 #15
who heaven05 Nov 2012 #16
Apple employs 60,000+ workers in the U.S. and add thousands every year. onehandle Nov 2012 #18
okay heaven05 Nov 2012 #19
All phones, tablets, computers, TVs... Everything electronic is made overseas. onehandle Nov 2012 #21
THANK you for mentioning those jobs numbers! People can like or not like Apple products, but jobs FailureToCommunicate Nov 2012 #31
Yep. There's a reason that Steve Jobs' widow was at the DNC. onehandle Nov 2012 #35
I admit I was one of their customers yesterday... arrives in the mail today OKNancy Nov 2012 #23
You were able to get your daughter something she'll use all day every day. She'll love it. I'll bet FailureToCommunicate Nov 2012 #30
I know she will use it. She uses it on her job and they actually pay part of the bill. OKNancy Nov 2012 #33
I Wouldn't Think It Would Be News If Android Outsold The iPhone Bigredhunk Nov 2012 #24
I don't get all you guys knocking Apple wilt the stilt Nov 2012 #32
What? ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #34
google android wilt the stilt Nov 2012 #37
sure buddy. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #39
so explain this to me wilt the stilt Nov 2012 #42
Doesn't matter. You can't keep living 5 years ago in the technology world. tinrobot Nov 2012 #45
no kidding wilt the stilt Nov 2012 #48
Say it with me... Google Maps... tinrobot Nov 2012 #44
apple maps guy was fired today wilt the stilt Nov 2012 #49
Google copies Apple's interface. tinrobot Nov 2012 #58
That's a silly thing to say. Android didn't copy anything. Xithras Nov 2012 #47
+100 TM99 Nov 2012 #55
Technology tends towards sir pball Nov 2012 #64
Keep fucking that chicken. onehandle Nov 2012 #66
So you ARE claiming sir pball Nov 2012 #67
How much does Apple pay you anyway? Did someone from Samsung run over your dog? Xithras Nov 2012 #68
Google showed Samsung a 2010 device in 2006? onehandle Nov 2012 #70
I did misspeak on that Xithras Nov 2012 #73
Aaple just paid me $1,600... brooklynite Nov 2012 #76
Answered here ---> onehandle Nov 2012 #36
Sorry, but Apple isn't doing much innovation rablrouzer Nov 2012 #38
really wilt the stilt Nov 2012 #41
Redefined Music? Whoa, cowboy, Apple didn't invent music, MP3 players, or even tablet computers rablrouzer Nov 2012 #52
do I like what apple did to music wilt the stilt Nov 2012 #59
Seriously? TM99 Nov 2012 #57
I know they didn't invent it wilt the stilt Nov 2012 #60
They impacted it alright TM99 Nov 2012 #61
read my post further up wilt the stilt Nov 2012 #62
Not just in phones - Apple threw away the pro video editing market. tinrobot Nov 2012 #46
Globally, approximately 70% of smartphones are Android. Xithras Nov 2012 #40
i have absolutely no interest in a 'smartphone'...am i the only one? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #50
If my phone were any dumber it would have a crank on the side IDemo Nov 2012 #69
You are most definately not the only one. Angleae Nov 2012 #75
U haters r crazy BigD_95 Nov 2012 #51
Europeans.... sendero Nov 2012 #53
lol dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #63
It'd be nice to be able to afford such useless pieces of crap Fearless Nov 2012 #72
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