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Response to wilt the stilt (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 05:37 PM

38. Sorry, but Apple isn't doing much innovation

OS X came from NEXT (Jobs failed startup) and is a clone of BSD, a Unix variant.

The Mac "big deal?" Rodent, lifted by hook or crook from Xerox research.

PowerPC? IBM / Motorola

Current Macs, actually run on Intel, using Intel spec logic boards, possibly altered slightly by Apple engineers. Which is why you don't see Apple suing the "Ultrabook" out of existence. The Mac Air is an Ultrabook, Intel Spec, just released first (with Intel's help).

iOS? A subset of OS X which is a clone of BSD, a Unix variant.

iPhones & iPads? Mostly SAMSUNG parts assembled by Foxconn et al, using Chinese slave labor. Lately the cameras have been Sony modules.

Apple innovation? Getting people to sign up for $100 a month contracts to change iPhones every year or two.

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Do I have a hate on for Apple? Nope. I use Macs and OS X and find it user friendly, in every way superior to Windows and Linux for regular folks and office workers (who don't need local high end databases).

But I had an original iPad. $900.68 for the 64 gb 3g model. I joyously replaced it with an Air when those came out because the iPad was a VERY expensive toy that Apple made nearly impossible to use for work. It may have improved, but Apple had it so locked down with no access to the file system it was a horrible kludge to move files around---and neither Pages nor Numbers, iOS or Mac versions, were compatible with Excel or even themselves.

Good thing I didn't come to rely on it, as before it was even two years old, Apple withdrew support on release of iOS 6.

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iPhones are a fashion item, like Prada bags. Don't believe it? Look around. Most users have them in cumbersome cases since they're fragile (especially the 4 & 4s, glass both sides). Yet most of those cumbersome cases have cutouts that display the Apple logo. While the iPhone was unique in 2007, it isn't now.

Apple's main reason for having a hate-on about the Galaxy S2? It looked enough like an iPhone that it could "pass." Not at a store, or when in use, but across a room. Like a fake Prada bag.

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Oh. And while as I mentioned in an earlier post Apple may have exceeded Android briefly at the iPhone 5 release, over time it is losing market share in the US and around the world.

Carriers have to subsidize the iPhone by about $500 each. As carriers begin competing with lower cost service (check out T-Mobile which may finally impact the horrible prices every other carrier charges), the $500 subsidy will become obsolete. Apple would have to compete on actual benefits---and greatly drop its prices.

Not the Apple way. But that is the reality that nearly bankrupted the company before. Once the "Prada bag" effect wears off, customers will choose value.

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