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happyslug

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8. The President of Egypt
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:37 PM
Nov 2012

Hillary Clinton did not have any real cards to play, thus could NOT be to large a factor. She was NOT about to cut off supplies to Israel and Israel knew that and without that ability she had no cards to play.

On the other hand the President of Egypt had several cards to play, cards the Israel did not want to even see, let alone be played. You must remember the President of Egypt has the support of the Moslem Brotherhood, who in turn has support of most Egyptians, almost all of the lower 50% of income earners. Thus if you want a mass meeting in the Streets of Cairo, the President of Egypt can produce it.

This permits the President to provide Israel four options, they get to make the choice:

1. Israel Put out of Gaza and leave it alone.

2. Egypt sends its army into the Sinai and once they move into Gaza and drive out the Israelis. At that point the Israelis attack and drive out the Egyptians. The President of Egypt tells his followers he done all he can do, the problem is the Egyptian military and he gets a chance to purge all the pro-USA officers in the upper ranks of the Egyptian Military which gives him a stronger hand in Egypt and an open excuse to provide military supplies to Hamas.

3. Egypt forces are attacked by the Israelis, and driven out, Repeat Sentence in bold above.

4. As the Egyptian Army moves into the Sinai, Israel attack. Repeat Sentence in bold above.

Notice, it is assumed the Egyptian Army would LOSE, but the key is that such a lost would WEAKEN the Generals of the Egyptian Army and Strengthen the Moslem Brotherhood. Once the options are presented to Israel, they hate option 1, but it is best choice of four bad options for Israel.

In simple terms, the President of Egypt and the Mostem Botherhood wins in all four cases. These are nasty cards, but the President of Egypt holds them given his support from the Moslem Brotherhood. The only down side of the above, is that the US will stop food aid to Egypt, a big concern to the President of Egypt for Egypt is a net food importer. Such a cut off would mean increase starvation among the Egyptian Poor, but the President can blame that on the US and Israel, so it is NOT as bad as it sounds (bad as to the poor of Egypt having no food, but good is that they will NOT blame the President of Egypt for the food shortage).

This is the problem the Israel Government has to face when dealing with Gaza, Egypt of today is NOT the pre-Arab Spring Egypt, which would have protested Israeli actions in the Gaza Strip, but do nothing about it. Today's Egypt must do something for that is what the people of Egypt wants. The Generals may be facing certain defeat, but they dare NOT refuse to go, for then they are just lackeys of the Israelis as far as most Egyptians would be concerned, They dare not overthrow the present government, for the same reason. The Generals must go, do the best they can and expect to be dismissed when they fail.

Thus this is the product of the President of Egypt, he gave the Israeli Government four bad choices and Israel decided to pick the least bad one.

Let's hope so. Turbineguy Nov 2012 #1
temporary link here dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #2
Can we thank Hillary for this yet? nt rivegauche Nov 2012 #3
Only if she threatened to cut off aid to Israel. dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #6
The President of Egypt happyslug Nov 2012 #8
AP are saying dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #12
Your analysis John2 Nov 2012 #17
What Ultimatum that affects the President of Egypt??? happyslug Nov 2012 #48
Egypt has about $1.5 billion reasons to listen to Hillary Clinton, every year, for 30 years. riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #27
Typically American attitude, assuming everyone can be bought JackRiddler Nov 2012 #38
Ignore that kind of money at your peril in realpolitick imho. riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #44
And most of that is Military supplies, that helps the Egyptian Military happyslug Nov 2012 #49
Morsi, yes Morsi, just accepted $1 BILLION dollars in debt relief from the US in September riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #51
So, The US told Egypt not to pay what Egypt can NOT pay. happyslug Nov 2012 #53
Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team) Dubster Nov 2012 #4
ok. I am now amazed at Hillary. the one I voted against. robinlynne Nov 2012 #5
Good if true TomClash Nov 2012 #7
So when rockets are fired at Israel they have no right to respond? iandhr Nov 2012 #15
Blowing up Palestinians doesn't help Israel out Scootaloo Nov 2012 #19
Shooting rockets into Israel doesn't help the Palestinian people out either. glacierbay Nov 2012 #25
Totally agree Scootaloo Nov 2012 #28
Here, let me amend my comment glacierbay Nov 2012 #30
Thank you Scootaloo Nov 2012 #31
Pogrom? King_David Nov 2012 #52
She'd make a good president some day Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #9
She certainly will. n/t bitchkitty Nov 2012 #11
Actual link headline is : Hamas, Israel agree truce: Palestinian source dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #10
POLITICO Breaking News ------------------------------------------------- Secretary of State Hillary Hissyspit Nov 2012 #24
Thank you Madam Secretary! Marrah_G Nov 2012 #13
See posts 8 and 10 - nothing to do with Clinton. dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #14
Kick (nt) muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #16
Fingers crossed. nt ZombieHorde Nov 2012 #18
Limbaugh was doing his best to make a mockery of the announcement. Among other things, he is yellowcanine Nov 2012 #20
Hamas will certainly take this as an opportunity to re-arm... ellisonz Nov 2012 #21
Maybe not if Isarel doesn't assassinate another Hamas official and kill innocent children in the kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #22
You do realize that the Hamas rocket attacks never stopped for the last 4 years? ellisonz Nov 2012 #23
Inconvenient truths don't matter, dontcha know. nt. glacierbay Nov 2012 #26
Agreed. ellisonz Nov 2012 #29
I thought you would catch that little dig at the climate change deniers glacierbay Nov 2012 #32
There are inconvenient truths pertaining to the Israel side of the story Hissyspit Nov 2012 #42
If by peace and prosperity you mean... nauthiz Nov 2012 #34
I like how you seemlessly transitioned from the situation in the West Bank to Gaza. ellisonz Nov 2012 #35
The West bank and Gaza are not separate entities Scootaloo Nov 2012 #50
and Israeli airstrikes against Gaza did stop right? azurnoir Nov 2012 #36
I'd appreciate it if you did not put words into my mouth. ellisonz Nov 2012 #37
did you not see the sarcasm smilie azurnoir Nov 2012 #40
Thank you. ellisonz Nov 2012 #41
k&r; long may it last! LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #33
Reuters appears to have changed article title to "Hamas, Israel agree truce: Palestinian source." Rhiannon12866 Nov 2012 #39
Hope it holds up Ash_F Nov 2012 #43
Gaza rockets hit south after truce; IDF holds fire oberliner Nov 2012 #45
Damn. You should probably make this its own OP oberliner. Its LBN for sure, alas. nt riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #46
Hopefully it won't be a big deal oberliner Nov 2012 #47
Kick! sarcasmo Nov 2012 #54
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