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lalalu

(1,663 posts)
21. You are wrong.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:57 AM
Nov 2012

That is a form you fill out.

You need to read this

http://www.umass.edu/umfa/uploads/listWidget/11810/tuitionclassification_rules.pdf

Part III. Determination of Residency
3.1 Proof of Residency
a) Each case will be decided on the basis of all facts submitted with qualitative
rather than quantitative emphasis. A number of factors is required for residency
to determine the intention of the person to maintain permanent residence in
Massachusetts. No single index is decisive. The burden of proof rests on the
student seeking classification as a Massachusetts resident.
b) The following shall be primary indicia of residency:
1) For unemancipated persons, the residency of parents, having custody,
within Massachusetts;
2) Certified copies of federal and state income tax returns;
3) Permanent employment in a position not normally filled by a student;
4) Reliance on Massachusetts sources for financial support;
5) Former residency in Massachusetts and maintenance of significant
connections there while absent.
c) The following shall be secondary indicia of residency, to be considered of less
weight than the indicia listed above in subsection b):
1) Continuous physical presence in Massachusetts during periods when not
an enrolled student;
2) Military home of record;
3) All other material of whatever kind or source which may have a bearing on
determining residency.

Go Massachusetts...another accomplishment by our recently re-elected President for All People. libdem4life Nov 2012 #1
If they are here illegally then how can they prove they have lived in the state? lalalu Nov 2012 #2
It doesn't matter. If they're here then they ought to be eligble for in-state tuition. rachel1 Nov 2012 #3
Not so fast. The difference in costs between in-state and out-of-state are enormous. riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #6
This is not about winning votes Cal Carpenter Nov 2012 #53
Its the rare, very rare, politician that's altruistic. 99% of them are chasing votes riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #78
His intentions are irrelevent Cal Carpenter Nov 2012 #80
Likely they will have to have graduated from roody Nov 2012 #81
That is not how it works. lalalu Nov 2012 #9
This is NOT true. You do NOT have to "present federal and state tax returns." MADem Nov 2012 #18
You are wrong. lalalu Nov 2012 #21
Nice try. No cigar. That's the "form" that the Governor Patrick CHANGED. MADem Nov 2012 #30
You really get the "Duh" reward yourself. lalalu Nov 2012 #35
Look -- you are just dead wrong on this. Give it up. MADem Nov 2012 #67
WTF?! didact Nov 2012 #62
DUH....how about a MA high school diploma? MADem Nov 2012 #19
It is becoming more obvious lalalu Nov 2012 #24
I've provided a link proving you wrong--from the MA government itself. MADem Nov 2012 #25
LOL, keep posting it. lalalu Nov 2012 #29
What do "parents" have to do with an 18 year old (adult) student? MADem Nov 2012 #34
Wow, so you also do not file income taxes. lalalu Nov 2012 #36
The cut off is 24 for FINANCIAL AID. Stop confusing TUITION with FINANCIAL AID. MADem Nov 2012 #43
This is my final response to you. lalalu Nov 2012 #48
Well, joy in the morning--that has NOTHING TO DO WITH TUITION, and it has MADem Nov 2012 #56
Your conflating tuition rates and financial aid tammywammy Nov 2012 #59
What part of the following do you not understand? lalalu Nov 2012 #60
There you go again! Colleges and universities "allow dependency" for the purposes of FINANCIAL AID MADem Nov 2012 #65
High School diploma and school records will show it treestar Nov 2012 #32
No that is not the law. lalalu Nov 2012 #39
This is not true in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. MADem Nov 2012 #44
If they require parents to prove they lived in MA treestar Nov 2012 #46
This isn't about a break for them. lalalu Nov 2012 #49
No it is only about being a resident treestar Nov 2012 #73
It is about proving residency in order to get in state tuition. lalalu Nov 2012 #77
The parents don't even have to get involved. The student can produce two documents, MADem Nov 2012 #66
Lots of undocumented workers roody Nov 2012 #82
How nice of Massachussetts. Piazza Riforma Nov 2012 #4
I agree with letting them attend - but with out-of-state tuition panAmerican Nov 2012 #5
Not against letting them attend college, Piazza Riforma Nov 2012 #7
It's a nice idea, but there wouldn't be reciprocation in many instances panAmerican Nov 2012 #8
My point isn't about whether another state will grant MA students in state rates. Piazza Riforma Nov 2012 #11
Would you then agree that anyone smoking pot --either medical MJ or recreationally in the states MADem Nov 2012 #15
You must not have attended college or have a child in college. lalalu Nov 2012 #23
You are wrong on EVERY count. Try clicking on the link I provided to you, so you do not MADem Nov 2012 #26
Your own link proves you wrong. lalalu Nov 2012 #27
The unemancipated person is the EXCEPTION, not the rule. MADem Nov 2012 #37
LMAO, most students are dependents and lalalu Nov 2012 #38
Emancipation is only possible for those under 18. treestar Nov 2012 #47
That is not true. lalalu Nov 2012 #61
Stop confusing FINANCIAL AID with TUITION. They are not the same thing. nt MADem Nov 2012 #68
The term emancipation does not apply to people who are already adults treestar Nov 2012 #74
Most students are over 18, and therefore, emancipated adults in the eyes of the law. MADem Nov 2012 #50
lalalulu is actually claiming people remain minors treestar Nov 2012 #75
No, just that some of you have minor intelligence. lalalu Nov 2012 #76
The poster is being deliberately obstreperous, I believe. MADem Nov 2012 #79
If they were giving in-state rates to out-of-state illegal immigrants, but not to NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #64
Oat of them are Americans. roody Nov 2012 #83
People who live in the state, who shop in the stores and pay sales tax, who MADem Nov 2012 #84
Agree lalalu Nov 2012 #10
How about a high school diploma from a Massachusetts public school? nt MADem Nov 2012 #13
That is not enough. lalalu Nov 2012 #14
You're not accurate, there. You're way off the mark, in fact. MADem Nov 2012 #16
See post 16. A utility bill and a MA high school diploma will get you in the door. nt MADem Nov 2012 #17
No it will not. lalalu Nov 2012 #22
You plainly don't know what it means--how many college students are under 18, hmmmmm? MADem Nov 2012 #28
So now you claim all illegal immigrant students are lalalu Nov 2012 #31
Bullshit. All "emancipated" means is that a minor is able to enter into a contract. MADem Nov 2012 #40
Emancipated does not mean that and I have shown you lalalu Nov 2012 #42
You have shown me that facts mean nothing to you, and that you are unwilling to learn even when MADem Nov 2012 #51
They are "residents" of Massachusetts. MADem Nov 2012 #12
States give residents lower tuition because their income and sales taxes help support the school Orangepeel Nov 2012 #20
They were brought to the US as children treestar Nov 2012 #33
They've resided in the state most of their lives. MADem Nov 2012 #41
Exactly treestar Nov 2012 #45
I have no problem with what the governor is doing in support of these kids. MADem Nov 2012 #54
The point is that STATE TAXPAYERS get lower in-state rates. Xithras Nov 2012 #86
Back in the early 90s when I was about to attend college WilmywoodNCparalegal Nov 2012 #52
Now see, I disagree with you-- you should have been given the in state rate, assuming MADem Nov 2012 #55
As a minor, I had no options either WilmywoodNCparalegal Nov 2012 #57
You had legal standing--and your parents had the option to apply for citizenship MADem Nov 2012 #63
You are wrong on a few counts WilmywoodNCparalegal Nov 2012 #85
I'm a bit disgusted at your comments, frankly. You ARE "blaming the kids" if you don't realize that MADem Nov 2012 #87
You can sure tell that Massachusetts is a Democratic state by this. The wave of ALEC-inspired state pampango Nov 2012 #58
These children did nothing wrong. They are part of our community. MADem Nov 2012 #69
Good points. Conservatives don't want any move towards legalization because it removes pampango Nov 2012 #72
Education brings prosperity and opportunity to the population as a whole Politicub Nov 2012 #70
Resident of a state/commonwealth vs. Resident of a country marshall Nov 2012 #71
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