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In reply to the discussion: Israel Is A Terrorist State: Turkey PM [View all]ellisonz
(27,711 posts)73. "That perhaps there might have been other options besides the resettlement of Palestinians?"
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Your question presumes that Israel made such a choice. Israel was attacked by the armies of 5 Arab Nations. Israel won that war. Should Israel have chosen to lose that war? Were some people forced off land, sure, but was that a deliberate policy of the Israeli government: absolutely not. The Arabs were not prepared to accept any comprise that would have created a Jewish state and I don't think you can objectively look at the issue without considering the eviction/evacuation of nearly 1 million Jews from across the Muslim world.
There's no fruit in counter-factual consideration and irrelevant comparisons- what has happened has happened, the real question is why groups like Hamas refuse to turn swords into plowshares
Also, I would just suggest that you consider the Terms of Service you have agreed to in regards to this topic just so you've been informed on this websites policy in regard to this topic:
Your question presumes that Israel made such a choice. Israel was attacked by the armies of 5 Arab Nations. Israel won that war. Should Israel have chosen to lose that war? Were some people forced off land, sure, but was that a deliberate policy of the Israeli government: absolutely not. The Arabs were not prepared to accept any comprise that would have created a Jewish state and I don't think you can objectively look at the issue without considering the eviction/evacuation of nearly 1 million Jews from across the Muslim world.
There's no fruit in counter-factual consideration and irrelevant comparisons- what has happened has happened, the real question is why groups like Hamas refuse to turn swords into plowshares
Also, I would just suggest that you consider the Terms of Service you have agreed to in regards to this topic just so you've been informed on this websites policy in regard to this topic:
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How foolish, you start with preconditions, then end with "sit down w/o pre-conditions".
Lionessa
Nov 2012
#10
Well sorry, I didn't realize you had a different language than the rest of us.
Lionessa
Nov 2012
#20
"That perhaps there might have been other options besides the resettlement of Palestinians?"
ellisonz
Nov 2012
#73
By posting the TOS, are you claiming it's hate speech to say the Palestinians were expelled?
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2012
#112
I'm saying it's hate speech to advocate that Israel should have never existed...
ellisonz
Nov 2012
#116
You're an anti-Arab racist. Your unwilling to acknowledge that Palestine is being bombing says
Puregonzo1188
Nov 2012
#82
Maybe the USA should stop giving Apartheid Israel free Money, Weapons and Intel
PerceptionManagement
Nov 2012
#61
Erdogan would not have made that statement if only Israel had apologized for...
Poll_Blind
Nov 2012
#9
They are a different matter, but they should be entitled to their own homeland as well.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Nov 2012
#58
Nobody powerful in that part of the world would want freedom for the Kurdish people.
Selatius
Nov 2012
#120
That kind of statement coming from him is the worst kind of hypocrisy
ProgressiveProfessor
Nov 2012
#13
Meh, you bring up something that happened 100 years ago because you have no argument now.
Poll_Blind
Nov 2012
#16
Sure, sure. And the Native Americans are still getting a bum deal from the Federal Govt.
Poll_Blind
Nov 2012
#26
The topic is the Turkish PM's statement...which I have pointed out is quite hypociritcal
ProgressiveProfessor
Nov 2012
#80