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karynnj

(59,495 posts)
25. may depend on filibuster reform - and while it seems that something might be done,
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:46 PM
Nov 2012

that is not a done deal because it requires 51 votes in the lame duck session and apparently there are some Democrats unwilling to change it as it is the only real power if you are in the minority. However, there is nothing to prevent the Republicans changing it (to benefit themselves) as soon as they gain the majority.

Most proposals still require more than 50 votes - but less than 60. If more than 55 are required even if we get all the Democrats, we would need a fair minded republican or two. The fact is that I think only about 13 Democrats voted against Condi Rice - this after John Kerry, who 4 or so months earlier, voted against her in committee explaining that she was not truthful in all her answers to the SFRC committee. So, it seems there may be a few Republicans who take the approach that she will represent Obama.

As to any Democrat, the answer is craven politics. In a very red state, there may be too many voters who would have bought the idea that she did something very wrong - even if they are not sure what.

Those two little shrimps together don't make half an Obama. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #1
They equal Cha Nov 2012 #7
McCain's home state of Arizona can NOT even finish the vote counting- work on your state JOB McCain Sunlei Nov 2012 #2
Holy crap, Lindsey Graham is a piece of shit!! SpankMe Nov 2012 #3
I don't understand McCain beerandjesus Nov 2012 #4
I don't think McCain knows anymore. Borgnine Nov 2012 #10
I met him in the early 90's. progressoid Nov 2012 #12
He's a senile, racist old fuck. Major Hogwash Nov 2012 #19
Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team) Dubster Nov 2012 #5
I swear these Republicans have NOOOOO idea Volaris Nov 2012 #5
Way to go Pres. Obama!!!! LeftInTX Nov 2012 #8
I agree. Fight for Rice! FreeBC Nov 2012 #11
Was VERY pleased to hear PrezO call mccain + graham statements 'OUTRAGEOUS.' elleng Nov 2012 #9
Does anyone know if Obama has the votes for Rice? amandabeech Nov 2012 #13
Why John2 Nov 2012 #15
Because I've noticed over many years that it is difficult to get ALL Dems amandabeech Nov 2012 #16
I'm giving everybody the benefit of the doubt, but something doesn't gel. Beacool Nov 2012 #20
It doesn't gell for me, either. amandabeech Nov 2012 #22
You make some very good points. Beacool Nov 2012 #24
may depend on filibuster reform - and while it seems that something might be done, karynnj Nov 2012 #25
Why? Because certain Dems are Dems in name only and never miss a chance to screw things up. kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #26
Unless there is filibuster reform, they need 60 votes - which means getting karynnj Nov 2012 #17
Thanks for your post. That's just the type of scenario I'd thought about. amandabeech Nov 2012 #18
Let these two old ASSHOLES block her. They will SINK their party FOREVER African Americans. RBInMaine Nov 2012 #14
We all know about his (McLumpy's) good fucking judgment now don't we! LMAO lonestarnot Nov 2012 #21
So fix the filibuster rules and the super secret holds AllyCat Nov 2012 #23
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