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In the discussion thread: Liberal group outlines $385B in Medicare cuts [View all]
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:59 AM
kansasobama (224 posts)
13. I hope DU and liberals understand give and take
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Last edited Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:01 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Hello:
We just cannot be like 2009-2010 prior to the elections. We were crying because Health Care did not go far enough. Then, we did not help Obama in 2010 to the extent we could have. Result: 2010 Elections followed by 2010 Obama-Axelrod Bush tax cut cave in and the Obama 2011 cave in. Do you see where this is going? Obama needs support and "push." That is the reality. He is President of 100% (not 47% or 52%). But, he has to know he has pressure and support from liberals if he is willing to bend and fight for us. Let us push hard but no melt-downs during negotiations as long as it is not 2:1 sweetheart deal (2 Spending cuts ro 1 tax revenue). We are only about 36% and with some left-leaning moderates, we are about 52%. 40-52% need to put constant pressure and be loyal. This is going to be a 12 year battle. Repugs will play games with "loopholes." Well, so-called loopholes will also hurt middle class. We cannot let that happen. Bush tax cuts need to go! Note that Obama has also asked for a steeper tax revenue than Repubs want. We are still fighting. It is not over. Stay the course and do not withdraw if there are negotiations. We need to take whatever success we get and live to fight another day. I am old and I have seen us retreat way too many times and thereby letting right-wingers fill the space. many do not want to see that again. |
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