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Tue Nov 13, 2012, 03:05 PM

Freddie Stubbs (28,526 posts)

83. Senator must cast a vote if they are present

So it is likely that they were absent when that vote was taken

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146 replies	Author	Time	Post
Dems short on votes for filibuster reform [View all]	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	OP
Who's the hold-out?	no_hypocrisy	Nov 2012	#1
... and why? Career as a Democrat is over.	Scuba	Nov 2012	#6
Some Democrats remember when they were in the minority	happyslug	Nov 2012	#23
And if the Repubs get in charge you think they'll OK the filibuster for the Dems???????	Scuba	Nov 2012	#28
They have in the past.....	happyslug	Nov 2012	#47
Is anyone going to answer the question? Who's the holdout?	xtraxritical	Nov 2012	#58
Ok, I'll do my own homework, here's the answer...	xtraxritical	Nov 2012	#59
I am sooooo pissed. nt	valerief	Nov 2012	#70
Kerry? Really? ACK.	ChaoticTrilby	Nov 2012	#72
Kerry is for filibuster reform	karynnj	Nov 2012	#139
Ah, good! Thanks for the update.	ChaoticTrilby	Nov 2012	#143
Senator must cast a vote if they are present	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#83
And Reid probably voted against it because for procedural reasons	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#87
That was a vote taken 2 years ago though.	NYC Liberal	Nov 2012	#93
I could have named most of them without looking at your list. Kerry I am surprised did not vote.	lonestarnot	Nov 2012	#107
I think he was in Sudan where things were falling apart	karynnj	Nov 2012	#138
I think they are at 49, easily at the moment	CreekDog	Nov 2012	#128
Remember "The Nuclear Option"?	MurrayDelph	Dec 2012	#146
And should that happen, do you think the Repubs wouldn't change it now	BlueCaliDem	Nov 2012	#42
Nobody is talking about killing the filibuster.	gcomeau	Nov 2012	#48
Actually they are not even talking about that.	former9thward	Nov 2012	#54
In that case...	gcomeau	Nov 2012	#55
Yes...and that's my main concern with the filibuster reform idea	RFKHumphreyObama	Nov 2012	#88
It's still obstructionism . . .	MrModerate	Nov 2012	#101
Exactly. I was grateful for the filibuster in 2003	democrattotheend	Nov 2012	#117
The reform doesn't take away the filibuster	CreekDog	Nov 2012	#127
One is prolly Joe Lieberman, who often caucuses with the Dems on some issues.	CTyankee	Nov 2012	#98
The only time they can do this is at the beginning of the term when they are	SteveG	Nov 2012	#123
Oh, that's right. I remember reading that somewhere...	CTyankee	Nov 2012	#125
Not quite.	HooptieWagon	Nov 2012	#135
True, but how likely is that?	SteveG	Dec 2012	#145
+1 million. Who the hell are these traitors? nt	valerief	Nov 2012	#69
From the article on who voted against or didn't vote at all:	yurbud	Nov 2012	#92
Or do they.	Mass	Nov 2012	#2
tend to agree.	mopinko	Nov 2012	#4
Name names, please	CanonRay	Nov 2012	#3
If they wait till January they will have 51+ votes	INdemo	Nov 2012	#5
AFAIK, they must wait for January.	longship	Nov 2012	#37
Right. n/t	PoliticAverse	Nov 2012	#53
I agree, so let's wait	wordpix	Nov 2012	#105
I agree, my math says they probably have at least 49 right now	CreekDog	Nov 2012	#129
Without filibuster reform ...	earthside	Nov 2012	#7
Some Democratic Senators may worry that they may someday be in the minority	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#9
So. The filibuster is garbage, and no way to run a democracy.	still_one	Nov 2012	#11
This is a constitutional republic, not a democracy	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#13
it's a democratic republic	HankyDub	Nov 2012	#17
I do not listen to talk radio, so I am not familiar with how Rush Limbaugh talks	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#18
That certainly was not the intent, which you know quite well.	HankyDub	Nov 2012	#19
People are often incorrect	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#25
If only you remembered that when repeating Administration talking points the past 4 years.	MessiahRp	Nov 2012	#43
We support President Obama here at DU!	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#84
What a ridiculous response.	MessiahRp	Nov 2012	#97
If Obama had tried to do everything that the far left wanted, he would have been a one-termer	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#111
I completely disagree with that assessment.	MessiahRp	Nov 2012	#112
My 'third way nonsense' is the reason a Democrat has won the popular vote in 5 of the last 6	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#114
Thank you for publicly outing yourself as a cheerleader for the Third Way.	MessiahRp	Nov 2012	#115
If people don't like triangulation, why do they keep voting for candidates who do it?	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#119
When the party only finances candidates that do it, you're left with no choice.	MessiahRp	Nov 2012	#120
In 2008 most of President Obama's funds were from small donations	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#133
prior to that you proudly displayed a blue dog painting in your sig line	Occulus	Nov 2012	#141
Those who don't want Blue Dogs in Congress don't want a Democratic majority	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#142
Of course he does	Kingofalldems	Nov 2012	#20
Oh, jeez.	earthside	Nov 2012	#24
If that were the ultimate value in the Senate, Wyoming and California wouldn't have the same number	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#26
The only ones who keep saying it's a Republic are Republicans,...as if they OWN it.	Spitfire of ATJ	Nov 2012	#27
The fact that it is a republic makes it difficult for any one faction to 'own' it	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#32
That's not how they see it. They say it's theirs and Dems need to get out of their way.	Spitfire of ATJ	Nov 2012	#46
That's a RW talking point, buddy.	Odin2005	Nov 2012	#33
after all, one pledges allegience to both the flag	SemperEadem	Nov 2012	#57
Facts are facts, regardless of whoever is stating them	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#86
The US being a republic does not perclude the US from also being a democracy.	Odin2005	Nov 2012	#102
It is still no way to run a Constitutional republic, and the last four years exemplify this	still_one	Nov 2012	#56
Unfortunately. nt	Comrade_McKenzie	Nov 2012	#81
I don't think you need to end it	HankyDub	Nov 2012	#15
+1 nt	ProudProgressiveNow	Nov 2012	#21
Good thing we're not one	Ter	Nov 2012	#61
Aren't they effectively putting themselves in minority	julian09	Nov 2012	#75
If they have no backbone and not pass the rule change	INdemo	Nov 2012	#136
The United States is a Democratic Republic!!!	tonybgood	Nov 2012	#64
That is the reason for the supreme court and the constitution.	julian09	Nov 2012	#77
Wrong!!! The Supreme Court isn't there to protect against "bad laws"!	tonybgood	Nov 2012	#121
Didn't I mention constitution along with supreme court, connect the dots.	julian09	Nov 2012	#137
The filibuster was used to keep slavery intact, so protection of the rights of minorities is	still_one	Nov 2012	#80
and the fight against civil rights	Salviati	Nov 2012	#126
I agree	still_one	Nov 2012	#132
the rights of the minorities frequently are trampled	dlwickham	Nov 2012	#95
lately in the Senate the rights of the majority are being trampled due to the filibuster rule	wordpix	Nov 2012	#106
if national Republicans keep this up, they will end up in the same position as California Repubs:	yurbud	Nov 2012	#94
Sounds exactly like the movie Lincoln.	Kablooie	Nov 2012	#8
Who do we need to yell at? We need names. nt	bemildred	Nov 2012	#10
The Blue Dogs and Southern Dems	harun	Nov 2012	#44
they	heaven05	Nov 2012	#50
Perhaps not	Blasphemer	Nov 2012	#60
Utter shite - this is completely false	dmallind	Nov 2012	#96
Umm the Corporate owned Dems in the Senate are WORSE than the Blue Dogs	harun	Nov 2012	#110
Please see #59, above.	AnotherMcIntosh	Nov 2012	#65
Yep, that's about what I thought.	bemildred	Nov 2012	#68
Real reporters have names....	Kelvin Mace	Nov 2012	#12
Senator Tom Udall is quoted in the article stated that he does not have 51 votes yet	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#16
By names,	Kelvin Mace	Nov 2012	#31
Please see #59, above.	AnotherMcIntosh	Nov 2012	#66
If Senator Udall had wanted to name names he would have done so	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#82
Since when do I exepct politicians to report the news	Kelvin Mace	Nov 2012	#89
Make them actually filibuster!	Honest_Abe	Nov 2012	#14
+1 nt	ProudProgressiveNow	Nov 2012	#22
There GOP will end the filibuster in a heartbeat	Nancy Waterman	Nov 2012	#30
Bring on the cook books, Chicken Soup For The Soul...	loyalsister	Nov 2012	#109
I agree	democrattotheend	Nov 2012	#118
Seriously. That's the entirety of the solution, right there.	Posteritatis	Nov 2012	#131
I just called Udall	fredamae	Nov 2012	#29
senate.gov	malexand	Nov 2012	#62
Thank you for this link	fredamae	Nov 2012	#63
TO EVERYONE WHO WANTS NAMES...	thesquanderer	Nov 2012	#34
Any Dems who won't vote to reform this should have their precious committee assignments stripped.	leveymg	Nov 2012	#35
Maybe Udall put this message out to energize the rank and file Democrats to show	byeya	Nov 2012	#36
The fillibuster must die.	Odin2005	Nov 2012	#38
Harry Reed took forever to admit it was a problem.	Spitfire of ATJ	Nov 2012	#39
Perhaps we need a constitutional amendment:	Maineman	Nov 2012	#40
Then CHANGE THE RULES OF THE SENATE!	Grins	Nov 2012	#41
well	heaven05	Nov 2012	#45
the independant that won	EC	Nov 2012	#49
He's not a senator yet.	AAO	Nov 2012	#67
Oh	EC	Nov 2012	#74
Right, but I don't think it starts until 2013 n/t	AAO	Nov 2012	#100
Virginia Dems: phone numbers	s-cubed	Nov 2012	#51
"A Reid aide emphasized that Reid did not commit himself to the constitutional option" n/t	PoliticAverse	Nov 2012	#52
They should rename it the Ballbuster. nt	valerief	Nov 2012	#71
Some of this may have to do with WHAT exactly is being proposed...	brooklynite	Nov 2012	#73
I know that I may be wrong here, but are you really sure you want to change the rules?	hrmjustin	Nov 2012	#76
There has to be a way for Obama to fill up the Courts without having to deal with Republican	Pirate Smile	Nov 2012	#78
Some Democrat better get off his dead ass and fall in line!	santamargarita	Nov 2012	#79
How are things going in AZ, re: Carmona???	elleng	Nov 2012	#85
Down 78,000 votes with a little less than half a million ballots still waiting to be counted	Freddie Stubbs	Nov 2012	#91
son of a ....	warrprayer	Nov 2012	#90
Why in the fuck did Feinstein (CA), Kerry (MA) & Inouye (HI) not vote? - This has to pass NOW	LaPera	Nov 2012	#99
Because they are COWARDS	NoodleyAppendage	Nov 2012	#104
Oh, come on	Canuckistanian	Nov 2012	#103
It's not like the vote to end the filibuster on the first day of each session will end it forever..	ancianita	Nov 2012	#108
Dear God...are there STILL Senate Dems who base their political appeal	Ken Burch	Nov 2012	#113
Maine's new Senator Angus King caucused with the Dems and hates the Filibuster	jpak	Nov 2012	#116
Not a Good Piece of "Reporting"	DarthDem	Nov 2012	#122
From that article I put us at 49	dsc	Nov 2012	#124
Response from Sherrod Brown's office	CincyDem	Nov 2012	#130
Funny how we're always short of the votes when we most need them.	Daniel537	Nov 2012	#134
Isn't it curious.	woo me with science	Nov 2012	#144
What's the point of this if the GOP has the House?	davidn3600	Nov 2012	#140

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