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Honest_Abe

(155 posts)
14. Make them actually filibuster!
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:39 AM
Nov 2012

Seems to me we could go a long way if we just made them actually filibuster. Right now they give up if they don't have the votes for cloture. Make them stand on the floor of the Senate and actually show the world via C-SPAN that they are wasting everybody's time for a bad cause. A couple of 48-hour marathon sessions by some of these old guys, they might be a little more reluctant to try it next time.

Edit: Sp.

Who's the hold-out? no_hypocrisy Nov 2012 #1
... and why? Career as a Democrat is over. Scuba Nov 2012 #6
Some Democrats remember when they were in the minority happyslug Nov 2012 #23
And if the Repubs get in charge you think they'll OK the filibuster for the Dems??????? Scuba Nov 2012 #28
They have in the past..... happyslug Nov 2012 #47
Is anyone going to answer the question? Who's the holdout? xtraxritical Nov 2012 #58
Ok, I'll do my own homework, here's the answer... xtraxritical Nov 2012 #59
I am sooooo pissed. nt valerief Nov 2012 #70
Kerry? Really? ACK. ChaoticTrilby Nov 2012 #72
Kerry is for filibuster reform karynnj Nov 2012 #139
Ah, good! Thanks for the update. ChaoticTrilby Nov 2012 #143
Senator must cast a vote if they are present Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #83
And Reid probably voted against it because for procedural reasons Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #87
That was a vote taken 2 years ago though. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #93
I could have named most of them without looking at your list. Kerry I am surprised did not vote. lonestarnot Nov 2012 #107
I think he was in Sudan where things were falling apart karynnj Nov 2012 #138
I think they are at 49, easily at the moment CreekDog Nov 2012 #128
Remember "The Nuclear Option"? MurrayDelph Dec 2012 #146
And should that happen, do you think the Repubs wouldn't change it now BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #42
Nobody is talking about killing the filibuster. gcomeau Nov 2012 #48
Actually they are not even talking about that. former9thward Nov 2012 #54
In that case... gcomeau Nov 2012 #55
Yes...and that's my main concern with the filibuster reform idea RFKHumphreyObama Nov 2012 #88
It's still obstructionism . . . MrModerate Nov 2012 #101
Exactly. I was grateful for the filibuster in 2003 democrattotheend Nov 2012 #117
The reform doesn't take away the filibuster CreekDog Nov 2012 #127
One is prolly Joe Lieberman, who often caucuses with the Dems on some issues. CTyankee Nov 2012 #98
The only time they can do this is at the beginning of the term when they are SteveG Nov 2012 #123
Oh, that's right. I remember reading that somewhere... CTyankee Nov 2012 #125
Not quite. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #135
True, but how likely is that? SteveG Dec 2012 #145
+1 million. Who the hell are these traitors? nt valerief Nov 2012 #69
From the article on who voted against or didn't vote at all: yurbud Nov 2012 #92
Or do they. Mass Nov 2012 #2
tend to agree. mopinko Nov 2012 #4
Name names, please CanonRay Nov 2012 #3
If they wait till January they will have 51+ votes INdemo Nov 2012 #5
AFAIK, they must wait for January. longship Nov 2012 #37
Right. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #53
I agree, so let's wait wordpix Nov 2012 #105
I agree, my math says they probably have at least 49 right now CreekDog Nov 2012 #129
Without filibuster reform ... earthside Nov 2012 #7
Some Democratic Senators may worry that they may someday be in the minority Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #9
So. The filibuster is garbage, and no way to run a democracy. still_one Nov 2012 #11
This is a constitutional republic, not a democracy Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #13
it's a democratic republic HankyDub Nov 2012 #17
I do not listen to talk radio, so I am not familiar with how Rush Limbaugh talks Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #18
That certainly was not the intent, which you know quite well. HankyDub Nov 2012 #19
People are often incorrect Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #25
If only you remembered that when repeating Administration talking points the past 4 years. MessiahRp Nov 2012 #43
We support President Obama here at DU! Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #84
What a ridiculous response. MessiahRp Nov 2012 #97
If Obama had tried to do everything that the far left wanted, he would have been a one-termer Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #111
I completely disagree with that assessment. MessiahRp Nov 2012 #112
My 'third way nonsense' is the reason a Democrat has won the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #114
Thank you for publicly outing yourself as a cheerleader for the Third Way. MessiahRp Nov 2012 #115
If people don't like triangulation, why do they keep voting for candidates who do it? Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #119
When the party only finances candidates that do it, you're left with no choice. MessiahRp Nov 2012 #120
In 2008 most of President Obama's funds were from small donations Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #133
prior to that you proudly displayed a blue dog painting in your sig line Occulus Nov 2012 #141
Those who don't want Blue Dogs in Congress don't want a Democratic majority Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #142
Of course he does Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #20
Oh, jeez. earthside Nov 2012 #24
If that were the ultimate value in the Senate, Wyoming and California wouldn't have the same number Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #26
The only ones who keep saying it's a Republic are Republicans,...as if they OWN it. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #27
The fact that it is a republic makes it difficult for any one faction to 'own' it Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #32
That's not how they see it. They say it's theirs and Dems need to get out of their way. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #46
That's a RW talking point, buddy. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #33
after all, one pledges allegience to both the flag SemperEadem Nov 2012 #57
Facts are facts, regardless of whoever is stating them Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #86
The US being a republic does not perclude the US from also being a democracy. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #102
It is still no way to run a Constitutional republic, and the last four years exemplify this still_one Nov 2012 #56
Unfortunately. nt Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #81
I don't think you need to end it HankyDub Nov 2012 #15
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #21
Good thing we're not one Ter Nov 2012 #61
Aren't they effectively putting themselves in minority julian09 Nov 2012 #75
If they have no backbone and not pass the rule change INdemo Nov 2012 #136
The United States is a Democratic Republic!!! tonybgood Nov 2012 #64
That is the reason for the supreme court and the constitution. julian09 Nov 2012 #77
Wrong!!! The Supreme Court isn't there to protect against "bad laws"! tonybgood Nov 2012 #121
Didn't I mention constitution along with supreme court, connect the dots. julian09 Nov 2012 #137
The filibuster was used to keep slavery intact, so protection of the rights of minorities is still_one Nov 2012 #80
and the fight against civil rights Salviati Nov 2012 #126
I agree still_one Nov 2012 #132
the rights of the minorities frequently are trampled dlwickham Nov 2012 #95
lately in the Senate the rights of the majority are being trampled due to the filibuster rule wordpix Nov 2012 #106
if national Republicans keep this up, they will end up in the same position as California Repubs: yurbud Nov 2012 #94
Sounds exactly like the movie Lincoln. Kablooie Nov 2012 #8
Who do we need to yell at? We need names. nt bemildred Nov 2012 #10
The Blue Dogs and Southern Dems harun Nov 2012 #44
they heaven05 Nov 2012 #50
Perhaps not Blasphemer Nov 2012 #60
Utter shite - this is completely false dmallind Nov 2012 #96
Umm the Corporate owned Dems in the Senate are WORSE than the Blue Dogs harun Nov 2012 #110
Please see #59, above. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #65
Yep, that's about what I thought. bemildred Nov 2012 #68
Real reporters have names.... Kelvin Mace Nov 2012 #12
Senator Tom Udall is quoted in the article stated that he does not have 51 votes yet Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #16
By names, Kelvin Mace Nov 2012 #31
Please see #59, above. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #66
If Senator Udall had wanted to name names he would have done so Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #82
Since when do I exepct politicians to report the news Kelvin Mace Nov 2012 #89
Make them actually filibuster! Honest_Abe Nov 2012 #14
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #22
There GOP will end the filibuster in a heartbeat Nancy Waterman Nov 2012 #30
Bring on the cook books, Chicken Soup For The Soul... loyalsister Nov 2012 #109
I agree democrattotheend Nov 2012 #118
Seriously. That's the entirety of the solution, right there. Posteritatis Nov 2012 #131
I just called Udall fredamae Nov 2012 #29
senate.gov malexand Nov 2012 #62
Thank you for this link fredamae Nov 2012 #63
TO EVERYONE WHO WANTS NAMES... thesquanderer Nov 2012 #34
Any Dems who won't vote to reform this should have their precious committee assignments stripped. leveymg Nov 2012 #35
Maybe Udall put this message out to energize the rank and file Democrats to show byeya Nov 2012 #36
The fillibuster must die. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #38
Harry Reed took forever to admit it was a problem. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #39
Perhaps we need a constitutional amendment: Maineman Nov 2012 #40
Then CHANGE THE RULES OF THE SENATE! Grins Nov 2012 #41
well heaven05 Nov 2012 #45
the independant that won EC Nov 2012 #49
He's not a senator yet. AAO Nov 2012 #67
Oh EC Nov 2012 #74
Right, but I don't think it starts until 2013 n/t AAO Nov 2012 #100
Virginia Dems: phone numbers s-cubed Nov 2012 #51
"A Reid aide emphasized that Reid did not commit himself to the constitutional option" n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #52
They should rename it the Ballbuster. nt valerief Nov 2012 #71
Some of this may have to do with WHAT exactly is being proposed... brooklynite Nov 2012 #73
I know that I may be wrong here, but are you really sure you want to change the rules? hrmjustin Nov 2012 #76
There has to be a way for Obama to fill up the Courts without having to deal with Republican Pirate Smile Nov 2012 #78
Some Democrat better get off his dead ass and fall in line! santamargarita Nov 2012 #79
How are things going in AZ, re: Carmona??? elleng Nov 2012 #85
Down 78,000 votes with a little less than half a million ballots still waiting to be counted Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #91
son of a .... warrprayer Nov 2012 #90
Why in the fuck did Feinstein (CA), Kerry (MA) & Inouye (HI) not vote? - This has to pass NOW LaPera Nov 2012 #99
Because they are COWARDS NoodleyAppendage Nov 2012 #104
Oh, come on Canuckistanian Nov 2012 #103
It's not like the vote to end the filibuster on the first day of each session will end it forever.. ancianita Nov 2012 #108
Dear God...are there STILL Senate Dems who base their political appeal Ken Burch Nov 2012 #113
Maine's new Senator Angus King caucused with the Dems and hates the Filibuster jpak Nov 2012 #116
Not a Good Piece of "Reporting" DarthDem Nov 2012 #122
From that article I put us at 49 dsc Nov 2012 #124
Response from Sherrod Brown's office CincyDem Nov 2012 #130
Funny how we're always short of the votes when we most need them. Daniel537 Nov 2012 #134
Isn't it curious. woo me with science Nov 2012 #144
What's the point of this if the GOP has the House? davidn3600 Nov 2012 #140
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