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bitchkitty

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106. LOL - that pic brings back memories

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:55 PM

Nov 2012

of sore calves and hamstrings! It was a major effort to take a stroll to the corner store. Forget walking home from the bars, we spent a fortune in cabs. I never got used to it.

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Meatless Mondays': LA urges residents to turn vegetarian one day a week [View all] onehandle Nov 2012 OP

Great idea . . . Richard D Nov 2012 #1

An even better idea would be automobileless Mondays. xtraxritical Nov 2012 #44

Automobileless Mondays won't work in my family. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #55

Cutting meat consumption to a reasonable level is critcal to fighting climate change. antigone382 Nov 2012 #2

I've definitely cut back on my meat intake. Salviati Nov 2012 #3

Ignore the arrogant nanny-state psychos, onehandle slackmaster Nov 2012 #4

Agriculture is one of the number one sources of carbon emissions. antigone382 Nov 2012 #5

A city government has no business telling people what they should and should not eat slackmaster Nov 2012 #6

human activity is causing climate change. Agriculture is a part of that activity. antigone382 Nov 2012 #7

It's not the LA city council's job to save the planet from anthropogenic climate change slackmaster Nov 2012 #8

It's everyone's job to do that. Everyone's. antigone382 Nov 2012 #9

As a matter of fact, the first thing I did before responding to the OP was to read the charter slackmaster Nov 2012 #12

Well when the city council walks into your dining room and snatches a chicken off your plate... antigone382 Nov 2012 #82

lolz ...... well-said! meti57b Nov 2012 #89

Thanks. This is probably the most textbook "first world problem" I've ever encountered. antigone382 Nov 2012 #91

You don't see the irony here, do you..... PavePusher Nov 2012 #136

Umm, yes, I see that that is a problem. antigone382 Nov 2012 #137

I dispute your characterization of the council's recommendation as "scientifically correct" slackmaster Nov 2012 #138

What is scientifically correct is that high rates of meat consumption contribute to climate change. antigone382 Nov 2012 #139

And there is NO BASIS for claiming that meat-eaters voluntarily giving up meat one day each week... slackmaster Nov 2012 #140

foodways are a defining feature of culture. antigone382 Nov 2012 #142

Having meat eaters pretend to be vegetarians one day per week won't change foodways slackmaster Nov 2012 #144

Well that sounds like a great argument for the city council to ban meat forever. antigone382 Nov 2012 #146

Typical authoritarian knee-jerk reaction slackmaster Nov 2012 #147

Yes, that is precisely my view. antigone382 Nov 2012 #148

P.S. Technically climate change will force them to... antigone382 Nov 2012 #150

I have no problem with my LA City Council doing this... SoapBox Nov 2012 #10

I know many Angelinos. Nobody I know will take the recommendation seriously. slackmaster Nov 2012 #14

I'm sorry... SoapBox Nov 2012 #18

apparently you don't know many in Silver Lake CreekDog Nov 2012 #129

Did they have a giant vegetarian get-together last night to celebrate the council's proclamation? slackmaster Nov 2012 #131

How can you argue simultaneously that this is a toothless and ineffective action... antigone382 Nov 2012 #141

It's worse than any of that, I'm afraid slackmaster Nov 2012 #143

Can you read their minds? antigone382 Nov 2012 #145

I don't have to read their minds. They're politicians. slackmaster Nov 2012 #157

If local politicians are that inherently dishonest and atavistic... antigone382 Nov 2012 #161

I didn't say that local politicians are any different than state or national ones slackmaster Nov 2012 #171

So in answer to my key question, what is an effective course of action regarding climate change? antigone382 Nov 2012 #175

To me it seems that the problem is so big that it will require major commitments on the part... slackmaster Nov 2012 #178

Yeah? I lived in LA until two years ago. Bette Noir Nov 2012 #101

Do You Lose Sleep Over Right Wing Opinions? Paladin Nov 2012 #102

sleep? No MurrayDelph Nov 2012 #107

They don't think they have a legal right to control anything of the sort. antigone382 Nov 2012 #110

Jeez, Look Who's Griping About "Over-Reaching" (nt) Paladin Nov 2012 #116

It does occur to you that LA gets almost all its water from somewhere else, right? antigone382 Nov 2012 #111

Except that isn't what they're doing, Nancy Kneejerk. Are you forced into a church on Easter? DRoseDARs Nov 2012 #21

I hope you enjoy your Tofurkey slackmaster Nov 2012 #24

"Tofurkey" and "Tuesday is Soylent Green Day" lalalu Nov 2012 #42

What part of "voluntary" and "symbolic" confuses you so? DRoseDARs Nov 2012 #51

I grew up and have eaten Comida Mexicana most of my life. Refritos frijoles and eggs IS breakfast. freshwest Nov 2012 #69

if you think Thanksgiving is on a Monday, LOL, you have no idea what you're talking about CreekDog Nov 2012 #95

I am a vegetarian, but have never cared for Tofurkey. n/t RebelOne Nov 2012 #120

cheese enchiladas mitchtv Nov 2012 #153

This may be the best response ever given on DU. flvegan Nov 2012 #25

I'm sure it's only a suggestion, not a mandate. Fish for Fridays was cultural, not a law. freshwest Nov 2012 #22

It's a suggestion that will be laughed at by a few, ignored by most slackmaster Nov 2012 #26

I wouldn't mind being given the option of a good meatless meal at a restaurant, if I ate out. freshwest Nov 2012 #32

You already have that option, unless you live in a small town or a rural area slackmaster Nov 2012 #35

Getting re-elected by voters who agree with it, is wrong, how? If they're the majority? freshwest Nov 2012 #38

I can tell you why it offends that poster CreekDog Nov 2012 #128

It's amazing how thoroughly your personal bias against me prevents you from seeing the truth slackmaster Nov 2012 #130

it's great that you think the worst of our Democrats and liberals in office CreekDog Nov 2012 #96

I don't regard the members of the L.A. city council as liberals in any sense of the word slackmaster Nov 2012 #133

They aren't your city council and you mainly are criticizing them because they did something liberal CreekDog Nov 2012 #149

Your brand of liberalism is not sacrosanct on DU. This board is for Democrats of all stripes. slackmaster Nov 2012 #154

liberalism IS sacrosanct on DU, absolutely CreekDog Nov 2012 #155

Holy, inviolable, immune from criticism slackmaster Nov 2012 #162

nobody said "free from criticism", but free from criticism simply because it is liberalism CreekDog Nov 2012 #164

As I have posted here repeatedly, giving people dietary advice without a scientific basis is not... slackmaster Nov 2012 #168

it is based on science CreekDog Nov 2012 #170

Show me the science that demonstrates that asking meat-eaters to give up meat one day each week... slackmaster Nov 2012 #172

so now you're saying it's scientifically valid *if* people follow the advice CreekDog Nov 2012 #176

I'd like to see what happens in a controlled situation with volunteers who WILL follow the advice... slackmaster Nov 2012 #179

You aren't being "centrist" you're mocking a health and environmental campaign with right wing snark CreekDog Nov 2012 #156

The worst kind of nannyism. earthside Nov 2012 #37

'The worst kind of nannyism'? Surpassing transvaginal ultrasounds, criminalizing abortion and... freshwest Nov 2012 #65

It's a voluntary suggestion. antigone382 Nov 2012 #84

+1000 Very well said! gtar100 Nov 2012 #109

they aren't telling you how to eat CreekDog Nov 2012 #177

True. Also vegetarians are not always healthy. lalalu Nov 2012 #39

I am 73 years old and have been vegetarian for the past 15 years. RebelOne Nov 2012 #94

Not all but it is a problem lalalu Nov 2012 #100

Fish is the only meat that I will eat. RebelOne Nov 2012 #121

they aren't your city's government CreekDog Nov 2012 #48

LOL, let me know when LAPD starts raiding supermarkets! alp227 Nov 2012 #77

who's job is it? neversaydie Nov 2012 #98

Eat as much meat as you like, the best thing you can do for the environment 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #61

There are sustainable levels at which meat can be consumed. antigone382 Nov 2012 #81

What about hunting? Maybe it's time to eat deer now? alp227 Nov 2012 #78

Well sure; I slaughtered a chicken myself this afternoon. antigone382 Nov 2012 #80

So how can the law prevent the cruelty of factory farming? alp227 Nov 2012 #83

I don't really understand why you're asking this question in relation to the OP... antigone382 Nov 2012 #85

"nanny state"??? that's a right wing term and LA's advice is environmentally sound CreekDog Nov 2012 #40

Would you care to place a wager on the likelihood that all 12 council members will comply with... slackmaster Nov 2012 #113

"Nanny state" is a right wing term and going meat-free one day per week is sound advice CreekDog Nov 2012 #119

I think people should decide for themselves what is best for them to eat, and how much of it slackmaster Nov 2012 #132

do you hate Spare the Air days? where we're encouraged to drive less? CreekDog Nov 2012 #151

You seem to be having a hard time staying on topic slackmaster Nov 2012 #159

you are against the vegetarian day, so you are against the "don't drive day" too, right? CreekDog Nov 2012 #165

Wow, I can't imagine how you could have missed the point any more thoroughly slackmaster Nov 2012 #169

No I liked this idea before you came to this thread to dump all over it with anti-liberal bile CreekDog Nov 2012 #173

If you can show me that the idea has actual merit, I might like it too slackmaster Nov 2012 #174

"George, tell me about the rabbits again." LanternWaste Nov 2012 #108

Who can afford meat anyway? SCVDem Nov 2012 #11

It's A Suggestion, Not An Edict. Paladin Nov 2012 #13

I'll ditto that! SoapBox Nov 2012 #20

Agreed. And sometimes a meatless day will even settle a person down. freshwest Nov 2012 #23

Excellent 2banon Nov 2012 #15

pigs are dogs veganlush Nov 2012 #16

+1 bitchkitty Nov 2012 #28

Er ... no. 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #62

Does chicken count as meat? animato Nov 2012 #17

If it's a dead animal, it's meat. ET Awful Nov 2012 #27

As a vegetarian, the question I am asked the most: rainbow4321 Nov 2012 #93

If it had a face or a mother WRH2 Nov 2012 #97

My family is in Illinois and we've been at this for about a year. Snarkoleptic Nov 2012 #19

My immediate thought... SoapBox Nov 2012 #29

My favorite. lalalu Nov 2012 #33

A wonderful food from Indonesia, roody Nov 2012 #103

I have been advising friends and family to try these: Trajan Nov 2012 #105

What's almost as bad as the right? Ter Nov 2012 #30

Yeah!!! You should see us here in San Francisco... AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #54

When do we get to see... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #68

I thought I had a workable link but I don't, for my photo album. AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #73

LOL! Love it. freshwest Nov 2012 #70

LOL - that pic brings back memories bitchkitty Nov 2012 #106

with the typical SAAB falling apart in the background snooper2 Nov 2012 #114

A can of V-8 would fix that problem slackmaster Nov 2012 #118

It's fine if it is voluntary. I sometimes go meatless anyway. lalalu Nov 2012 #31

I think it's a great idea and find it sad that so many are so defensive about it. forestpath Nov 2012 #34

Ditto to you SoapBox Nov 2012 #36

It's a personal and cultural thing. 'My mom fed me bacon and she loved me! Don't say she was wrong!' freshwest Nov 2012 #71

How about having fewer children. What about that environmental impact. Gregorian Nov 2012 #41

You get applause from me. lalalu Nov 2012 #43

Health is the primary reason. Nothing to do with population. nt onehandle Nov 2012 #45

Doug Stanhope.......Sodomy is Eco-Friendly and Abortion is Green thelordofhell Nov 2012 #47

That was hilarious lalalu Nov 2012 #52

And yet suggesting that will get you berated by even the greenest vegan 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #63

That would not be a problem with me. RebelOne Nov 2012 #46

I've always hated the idea of meatless Mondays Ratty Nov 2012 #49

THAT is such a great idea... SoapBox Nov 2012 #57

I only have to cook for myself. Ratty Nov 2012 #74

From the way people are reacting to this, you'd think they'd actually outlawed meat. ET Awful Nov 2012 #50

Good idea... Blasphemer Nov 2012 #53

I only have 1- 2 meals of meat a week, watercolors Nov 2012 #56

I remember we did that as kids on Fridays so we could get into Heaven. nt valerief Nov 2012 #58

I've cut down on meat consumption in general but mostly to save money 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #59

People are Already Grouchy Enough on Mondays... AndyTiedye Nov 2012 #60

How effective are these sorts of ... surrealAmerican Nov 2012 #64

It is like planting a seed. It gets watered, roody Nov 2012 #104

No, it's like planking.. snooper2 Nov 2012 #115

Story in Ag news about this at jtuck004 Nov 2012 #66

Sorry, couldn't resist.... Harry Monroe Nov 2012 #67

Susan Feniger's new restaurant, "Street" offers a meatless Monday menu Beaverhausen Nov 2012 #72

I couldn't be a vegetarian for even one day glacierbay Nov 2012 #75

Voluntary is OK. AnnaLee Nov 2012 #76

So what have Perry and Reyes done about food deserts in LA that LACK fresh produce? alp227 Nov 2012 #79

Doing real work is too hard. So is science and stuff. slackmaster Nov 2012 #117

Reyes has done more than you about Climate Change and certainly more for LA than you CreekDog Nov 2012 #158

Mr. Reyes is a recognized authority on land use and urban planning slackmaster Nov 2012 #160

so you're saying he can't weigh in on those topics LMAO CreekDog Nov 2012 #166

Says the guy who thinks I shouldn't weigh on on something the L.A. city council said slackmaster Nov 2012 #167

You can have my burger when you pry it from my cold, dead hands. n/t malthaussen Nov 2012 #86

Not eating meat is a good first step... Kalidurga Nov 2012 #87

I've been increasing our 'meatless' meals for years .... Trajan Nov 2012 #88

We have meatless Sundays frazzled Nov 2012 #90

Prior to Vatican 2 revolution breeze Nov 2012 #92

Portobello Burgers HockeyMom Nov 2012 #99

Vegetarian here and I love Portobello mushrooms. RebelOne Nov 2012 #122

I'll take a Tofu Tuesday too!! lunasun Nov 2012 #112

On Mondays I will not eat my 20 oz steak. aikoaiko Nov 2012 #123

Use Your Savings To Buy More Ammunition. (nt) Paladin Nov 2012 #124

You too my little gun owning friend. aikoaiko Nov 2012 #125

I Dunno....... Paladin Nov 2012 #126

I had a carne asada taco for dinner last night in solidarity with the meat eaters of Los Angeles slackmaster Nov 2012 #127

No meat on Mondays, mary195149 Nov 2012 #134

Yes. Fish is, for the most part, only meat I eat. onehandle Nov 2012 #135

Who knew a "food" thread would get this much response:) llmart Nov 2012 #152

I'm 54 and eat about 1/5 as much (red) meat as I did in my 20s and 30s slackmaster Nov 2012 #163