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Response to Proles (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:18 AM

11. I'm in Occupy and FOI requests reveal that DHS has been "watching" us since day 1,

 

as well as being involved with co-ordination of camp clearings and continuing "observation".

In LA, the police have Special Order 11, which makes them a tentacle of the DHS. They even have nifty "see something, say something" business cards. Know for a fact that any and all protesters have all their information in those damn fusion centers, that we all have files at various levels. For expressing our 1st Amendment rights. Then the NDAA comes along with indefinite detention without trial or representation for any accused or believed to be involved with or in contact with "terrorists". Then HR347. Then Obama sends lawyers to strike down a ruling that the indefinite detention clause (Section 1021) is unConstitutional. Obama fought to keep something a judge threw out as unConstitutional.

Representative Peter King, who was once actually a bag man for the IRA, who was involved with overseeing the DHS, had this to say (among several choice quotes) about Occupy:



There is of course the video where he calls us losers, living in our own urine (or similar) etc. Very kind of someone working with a domestic spying agency to say.

"We can't allow that." Note that Jean Quan, "mayor" of Oakland, let slip that 18 mayors conference-called about getting rid of Occupy. DHS were involved.

740+ Occupiers have been arrested for using their 1st Amendment rights, many of them having been outright bloodied by police in the process. Obama called upon the Egyptian authorities to respect the rights of Egyptian citizens to protest, but has said not one word about what is being done to us. I take such silence, well after a years' time, to be true complicity. Because on the flip side of this coin, zero fraudulent, thieving bankers have been arrested and charged. Zero. 7400+ 1st Amendment protesters versus zero fraudulent, thieving criminals who nearly put us into the 2nd Great Depression.

I deeply resent that I am considered a terrorist or potential terrorist for utilizing my Constitutional Rights. That my friends are, that we all are. This speaks of a government which is out-of-control and paranoid and set upon creating new enemies to further justify the permanent war budget and to help arms dealers expand their profits through sales within the US against the terrible new (and never found) enemy. It screams of fear-mongering and power grabs, of back-room deals and hideous profits at the expense of our freedom. 64 drone bases inside the US, and growing. Police beginning to use drones to spy upon citizens. And now the FBI are breaking into homes, searching for "literature", taking people into political custody, using grand juries to attempt to end the freedom of those targeted...which they did to other civil rights movements across the decades.

All of these things, and more, taken together, tell me that yes, DHS and associated "agencies" are quite the enemy. Especially to the Constitution.

More info:

No NATO protester pleas to terrorism

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12524228


3 Occupy Wall Street Protesters Win $50K Settlement Over "Thought Crime" Arrest

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12524252


Another activist subpoenaed to Pacific NW Grand Jury.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12524091

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