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randome

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87. All 'heroes' are human beings.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 12:46 PM
Oct 2012

Some of us forget that. It's best to admire someone but I don't see the case for putting someone on a pedestal. Everyone fails at some point. It's human nature.

They can say that all they want, naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #1
I disagree... kayakjohnny Oct 2012 #6
Hank Aaron heard the same lalalu Oct 2012 #12
It's not my opinion alone... This list puts Lance at #5. But still has Merckx as the best. kayakjohnny Oct 2012 #16
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. lalalu Oct 2012 #32
What does Lance Armstrong have to do with "change"? DanTex Oct 2012 #79
Did you read the previous posts? lalalu Oct 2012 #88
"There are some people who can't accept records being broken by new people." DanTex Oct 2012 #98
Maybe you missed it but some people wanted to strip Phelps for lalalu Oct 2012 #102
I don't remember anyone wanting to strip his medals for smoking a joint. DanTex Oct 2012 #105
They wanted to penalize Phelps. lalalu Oct 2012 #106
Whoever "they" is, "they" obviously didn't actually get very far in their anti-Phelps vendetta. DanTex Oct 2012 #109
eleven people plus docs. he is guilty or he would fight it roguevalley Oct 2012 #72
He survived a 2 year DOJ investigation and passed over 500 drug tests. Bo Oct 2012 #111
OH? What if its a new drug the tests arent designed to detect or if its one the body cstanleytech Oct 2012 #130
Mercx was busted for doping once as well. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2012 #37
Ok fair enough naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #41
It's not quite that simple. DanTex Oct 2012 #82
He's the best of his time. wilt the stilt Oct 2012 #114
Another vote here for Merckx Retrograde Oct 2012 #86
I agree 100% lalalu Oct 2012 #9
yep. PatrynXX Oct 2012 #63
What a crock. One of the biggest cheats ever and a disgrace to the sport according to the byeya Oct 2012 #80
Absolutely! Major Hogwash Oct 2012 #83
he is a doper and a cheat, glad to see him stripped Trivium Oct 2012 #99
Nope. The cannibal reigns supreme.... cliffordu Oct 2012 #100
If he's the best cyclist ever. . . BigDemVoter Oct 2012 #110
No, Peewee is. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #113
Good. He was a fake. darkangel218 Oct 2012 #2
nasty much? Duppers Oct 2012 #19
I have no respect for cheats and thieves. darkangel218 Oct 2012 #21
+1 sarcasmo Oct 2012 #54
I THOUGHT HE PASSED OVER 300 DRUG TESTS.... Bo Oct 2012 #68
watch cycling much? wilt the stilt Oct 2012 #115
I'm sure lancy will be okay in the morning... snooper2 Oct 2012 #36
why is it nasty to speak the truth? adigal Oct 2012 #43
way to ruin 7 yrs of other peoples hard work by cheating. truly disgusting. i have no respect seabeyond Oct 2012 #3
you're right about that RedstDem Oct 2012 #23
I don't think anyone will be named as the winner for those 7 years muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #31
The issue at hand is... Javaman Oct 2012 #74
Ha Ha ha wilt the stilt Oct 2012 #116
I don't know what's worse - a quitter or a cheater. closeupready Oct 2012 #4
WADA was run by Dick Pound cleduc Oct 2012 #5
I wish he were publicly tarred, feathered and cosmicone Oct 2012 #7
When does he give back all the money he stole? CBGLuthier Oct 2012 #8
A lot of sports bettors are probably pissed off about this. closeupready Oct 2012 #65
This is nothing but a personal vendetta. lalalu Oct 2012 #10
I think is more than " personal stories " to prove he dopped. n/t darkangel218 Oct 2012 #13
Where is there more? lalalu Oct 2012 #15
Then how come he is not " defending " himself? darkangel218 Oct 2012 #18
That sounds just like the Salem Witch trial. lalalu Oct 2012 #24
Oh please... darkangel218 Oct 2012 #28
Where is there proof he doped? lalalu Oct 2012 #30
Only extremely deluded people would overlook cosmicone Oct 2012 #35
Only vicious people attack and convict on innuendo. lalalu Oct 2012 #39
Since when is sworn testimony of 25 witnesses "nothing but stories"? DanTex Oct 2012 #45
Yes, because "eyewitness" testimony lalalu Oct 2012 #46
So are you saying that all 25 eyewitnesses are lying under oath? DanTex Oct 2012 #49
Historically people lalalu Oct 2012 #57
How do you feel about, say, Jerry Sandusky? Another witch-hunt victim? DanTex Oct 2012 #66
Actually Sandusky admitted to his actions. lalalu Oct 2012 #67
Umm... Sandusky pleaded not guilty and continues to maintain his innocence. DanTex Oct 2012 #69
He admitted to actions that resulted in his conviction. lalalu Oct 2012 #89
No he didn't. You are unable to defend your position without making false claims. DanTex Oct 2012 #95
Is there something wrong with you? lalalu Oct 2012 #103
Sorry, painting me as a pedophile sympathizer doesn't help your case. DanTex Oct 2012 #108
no.you are being silly. not every event is a conspiracy roguevalley Oct 2012 #73
That was said about every conspiracy before it was exposed. lalalu Oct 2012 #90
We know you're into hero worship cosmicone Oct 2012 #50
lol!! n/t darkangel218 Oct 2012 #55
So now you think you "know" me? lalalu Oct 2012 #59
It is some sort of vendetta RedstDem Oct 2012 #20
That is what bothers me the most. lalalu Oct 2012 #26
Full of S%^T! djg21 Oct 2012 #40
The first sign that someone is losing lalalu Oct 2012 #42
Personal attacks? darkangel218 Oct 2012 #52
Once again you ignore proof. lalalu Oct 2012 #60
So all the cyclists who've come forward, the French officials who'd suspected him for a long time... marmar Oct 2012 #17
Yes, and there was zero proof of lalalu Oct 2012 #29
You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You should never comment on cycling again. n/t Dawgs Oct 2012 #33
Wow, so your response is to shut me down because lalalu Oct 2012 #34
If you have no idea what you're talking about, you probably shouldn't comment. djg21 Oct 2012 #38
So to call a doper a doper is a personal vendetta? adigal Oct 2012 #44
Yeah, they did the same thing to Jerry Sandusky. Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #47
bullshit. there was simply massive and clear evidence. cali Oct 2012 #51
Really? His team blew the whistle on him and it's a witch hunt? sarcasmo Oct 2012 #56
I bet you think Mark McGwire was clean too. _ed_ Oct 2012 #112
Fuckin' shame. Frank Cannon Oct 2012 #11
Can't argue with you about the worship of sports figures. I think it's ridiculous also. calimary Oct 2012 #97
It's hard out here for an Armstrong nt MrScorpio Oct 2012 #14
They should have had a doping amnesty for all these old guys Lars77 Oct 2012 #22
So if everybody does it, it's OK? Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #48
You cannot apply todays standards on yesterdays cyclists. Lars77 Oct 2012 #64
Armstrong's legacy needs a thorough re-examination. Boabab Oct 2012 #25
A pity, but correct decision Franker65 Oct 2012 #27
Good! Now if baseball would strip Sosa, Bonds, McGwire and the rest of the roid bunch it would sarcasmo Oct 2012 #53
Agree. Baseball needs to get serious about PEDs and rid the sport of cheats. byeya Oct 2012 #81
61 in 61 still the record. sarcasmo Oct 2012 #92
All our heroes are bastards slackmaster Oct 2012 #58
spigotty ones? darkangel218 Oct 2012 #61
They leak and drip and drive us insane with their noises slackmaster Oct 2012 #62
All 'heroes' are human beings. randome Oct 2012 #87
AND... he's probably no longer running to be governor of Texas. proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #70
So what is the take away from all this? Javaman Oct 2012 #71
no one likes him. hes mean to others. roguevalley Oct 2012 #76
he certainly didn't help himself. Javaman Oct 2012 #77
Having spent some time in racing in my teen years, Art_from_Ark Oct 2012 #118
There is that too. nt Javaman Oct 2012 #119
The organized scam by the spandex clowns is over jsr Oct 2012 #75
Cancer survivors still love him because "It's Not About The Bike." proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #78
They're the only ones. closeupready Oct 2012 #93
TDF Can't Find Anyone to Award His Titles To, Because they ALL Did It AndyTiedye Oct 2012 #84
Apparently the entire sport has become corrupted and needs to be labeled as such. humblebum Oct 2012 #85
If all cyclists dope, TV coverage/sponsorship should end closeupready Oct 2012 #94
Well of course this is a huge smear campaign against a conpletely innocent person. Safetykitten Oct 2012 #91
I thought that at first, too, but there is just too much to deny. However, humblebum Oct 2012 #96
Update: SCA Promotions wants its $7.5M back. DanTex Oct 2012 #101
Seriously depressing... I was a huge fan... watched almost all those tours budkin Oct 2012 #104
Does this mean that Miguel Indurain (the modest champion) is the greatest ever? Supersedeas Oct 2012 #107
LOL taught_me_patience Oct 2012 #125
What a Con Job elbloggoZY27 Oct 2012 #117
Ah the puritan hand-wringing over obvious chemical assistance dmallind Oct 2012 #120
I suppose it is rather convenient in this day and age to label LanternWaste Oct 2012 #121
Desire? Perhaps valid. Expectation? Naive in the extreme, and repeatedly shown to be so. dmallind Oct 2012 #123
Here's what professional cycling needs to do. Draw a line in the sand and invalidate EVERYONE'S... Locut0s Oct 2012 #122
Cheating and lying are fine as long as you're not caught andym Oct 2012 #124
Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team) Dubster Oct 2012 #126
What an asshole. Prometheus Bound Oct 2012 #127
The apology Lance Armstrong will never give Prometheus Bound Oct 2012 #128
Lance Armstrong is the Bernie Madoff of charities jsr Oct 2012 #129
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