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In the discussion thread: Catholic Church To Lose Historic Property Tax Exemption In Italy [View all]

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 05:01 PM

Yo_Mama (3,850 posts)

48. You don't understand

In the US, such properties are already taxed.

Italy is not taxing churches or convents or any actual church property used as such. It is going to tax COMMERCIAL property owned by the Italian church. The Catholic church owns entire housing developments, for pete's sake!

In other words, it is shifting to US law. In the US, such property is and has always been taxed.

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63 replies	Author	Time	Post
Catholic Church To Lose Historic Property Tax Exemption In Italy [View all]	DeSwiss	Oct 2012	OP
I wish something that rational would happen in the US.	DURHAM D	Oct 2012	#1
That alone would probably resolve the deficit. :-\| n/t	DeSwiss	Oct 2012	#5
It very well could if certain pastors keep trying to challenge the IRS	cstanleytech	Oct 2012	#13
No one can say "holiday" tree without being accused of warring on Christmas, Jesus and Christendom.	merrily	Oct 2012	#20
In the US the tax system already excludes commercial property	pnwmom	Oct 2012	#25
Depends on what county/state you live in.	DURHAM D	Oct 2012	#33
There have been Federal SCOTUS rulings on this, so the state laws are in line. n/t	pnwmom	Oct 2012	#38
I agree...if you talk politics from the pulpit	adigal	Oct 2012	#31
You don't understand	Yo_Mama	Oct 2012	#48
That is just not true.	DURHAM D	Oct 2012	#50
Can you provide an example?	Yo_Mama	Oct 2012	#60
Exactly what we should do. No tax exemption	williesgirl	Oct 2012	#2
And to be able to sell church property for non-payment of taxes.....	DeSwiss	Oct 2012	#7
Do it here,baby!	aquart	Oct 2012	#3
And it's also one way to get Rmoney to pay taxes!	DeSwiss	Oct 2012	#8
We already have that system here. The new law in Italy applies	pnwmom	Oct 2012	#26
Where do you live that commercial properties	DURHAM D	Oct 2012	#34
It was settled by the SCOTUS long ago that the exemption doesn't apply to commercial properties.	pnwmom	Oct 2012	#37
That does not address commercial property	DURHAM D	Oct 2012	#39
Did you read the other part of the post? It addresses the issue of taxation of commercial use of the	pnwmom	Oct 2012	#43
It is an option.	DURHAM D	Oct 2012	#44
Can you show me the law that applies where you live? That applies exemptions to all properties	pnwmom	Oct 2012	#46
You are not listening or simply don't understand	DURHAM D	Oct 2012	#47
I do understand. I also know that you've claimed, without evidence,	pnwmom	Oct 2012	#53
There are constitutional issues with doing it	Yo_Mama	Oct 2012	#62
That's what I've been saying. Commercially used property gets taxed,	pnwmom	Oct 2012	#63
Since a lot of religious institutions are recieving tax dollars, they should pay.	freshwest	Oct 2012	#4
Of course they should!	DeSwiss	Oct 2012	#9
Italy! Of all places to tax the Roman Catholic Church.....	Proletariatprincess	Oct 2012	#6
Yes indeedy!	DeSwiss	Oct 2012	#10
There is so much irony in that story the Pope had to change his underwear after hearing the news	davidpdx	Oct 2012	#23
Yes, Yes, Yes	defacto7	Oct 2012	#11
GREAT PIZZA EXCUSE!!!	DeSwiss	Oct 2012	#12
They already have too much say in government.	Proletariatprincess	Oct 2012	#15
Drip, drip...	canuckledragger	Oct 2012	#14
Shocking! Italy? Really?	johnlucas	Oct 2012	#16
It's about time	spiderpig	Oct 2012	#17
K&R	idwiyo	Oct 2012	#18
I've never understood how exempting churches complies with separation of church and state.	SunSeeker	Oct 2012	#19
Nuke the Vatican	HankyDub	Oct 2012	#21
K&R. Yes please!	Overseas	Oct 2012	#22
Imagine what this would do in the US if this happened here	condoleeza	Oct 2012	#24
I will gladly let them tax the churches here...Say, oh, a modest 10%? That way, they can pay for	silvershadow	Oct 2012	#27
For information purposes only...	OnlinePoker	Oct 2012	#28
It also gives new meaning to the phrase	meow2u3	Oct 2012	#56
All Italians will also be taxed on their own residence too	dipsydoodle	Oct 2012	#29
Awesome news!! I hope there is a domino effect!!!	hue	Oct 2012	#30
R#44 & K for, may Zeus make it so EVERYWHERE!1 n/t	UTUSN	Oct 2012	#32
Whoa. Bout time.	lonestarnot	Oct 2012	#35
Depending on the location, church-owned buildings not used for religious worship are taxed in the US	jhasp	Oct 2012	#36
some are not going to like facts getting in the way of their blind hatred for all things religious	leftyohiolib	Oct 2012	#40
Wow. That should be enforced in the US, too. nt	valerief	Oct 2012	#41
Let's be the next country to tax churches!!!	NC_Nurse	Oct 2012	#42
Time for the US to follow, on ALL churches.	joanbarnes	Oct 2012	#45
Splendid idea. All those Mormon temples must have really high valuations!	Coyotl	Oct 2012	#49
+12	haikugal	Oct 2012	#51
That is a start but what about Italy making the Vatican part of Italy again	awake	Oct 2012	#52
Actually it was the Lateran Treaty of 1929 signed between Mussolini and the Pope	WilmywoodNCparalegal	Oct 2012	#58
This is not surprising for us Italians	WilmywoodNCparalegal	Oct 2012	#59
Awesome! The Great Grifting Church finally has to chip in a bit.	Arugula Latte	Oct 2012	#54
k&r n/t	RainDog	Oct 2012	#55
Wow, In ITALY of all places?!?	Odin2005	Oct 2012	#57
I can see how that would make a lot of people very happy.	LanternWaste	Oct 2012	#61

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