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Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
37. MissHoneychurch
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 05:39 PM
Oct 2012

MissHoneychurch

I agree, it is a genius thing for Europe, where you can travel to each other and not have to change the valuta to where you are when you leave your own country to go visit others - It is the first time in ages, maybe even since the romans hold fort in most of Europe, that is happening..

The problems is that not everyone in Eu, have the economy to get a stable currency, the Euro is sitting on very strict rules, and everyone who disobey the rules, get fines, rather hefty by the way.. For Greece, Spain Portugal and Italy it looks like it have been the same as a nuclear disaster of sorts.... And they will be punished harshly as Specially the germans and the french doesn't accept any fooling around - or the fact that your economy is not up to the task put forward by the central bank..

And some members of EU, are not even in the currency - as their economy is far to "small" to support the strict rules to deficit and so one..

But in all, for some nations, EU works, for others, it is more troublesome - and for some like Norway, I believe it is better to stay outside for the time being - as EU do have a rather lengthy level of troubles that have to be solved out, before we might decide to joint it in the future.. As it is now, I suspect most Norwegians is rather happy we doesn't elected us into EU... We still have a degree of independence to do as we want - and I suspect that is very important for most Norwegians - even though we trade and following a lot of the rules set by EU in our trade agreement with EU.. I believe we have vetoed once since we accepted the new trade agreement after 1994... But that mostly because it was strictly against our constitution, and therefore wrong to accept.. And we got a free pass there - but also a strict warning about "play it our way, or the high way"... Most Swedes regret that they woted themself into EU. But they are kind of stuck into EU, but I doubt Sweden wil get out of the EU anytime soon.. What to replease EU with?..

If we are to believe the ones who is for EU, it is okay to get out of EU, if the country choose to do it - but I suspect if Germany was to leave EU, the whole concept of EU would fall to pieces, as the whole idea behind the Steel and Coal tractat in the 1950s was to bind West Germany to a treaty where it would be almost impossible to make another war out of... It would have been like cutting Italy and Rome out of the roman Empire in 100 AD, and let the other parts govern them self.. I doesn't worked then - and I suspect it would work rather bad now.... Germany is by its own history kind of stuck in EU... And EU stuck with Germany...

But as a consept, for Europe, to have a central bank, and to have a single currency, it is absolutely genious, no doubt about it.. And by the way, you CAN use Euro in Norway too.. Even though I suspect it is smart to change some of your money to norwigian kroner too, if you want to leave the bigger city's out to the countryside..

Diclotican


Well, that's an interesting one... Hissyspit Oct 2012 #1
To say the least MissHoneychurch Oct 2012 #2
I am an EU skeptic, but.. Lars77 Oct 2012 #5
All the great powers Sgent Oct 2012 #26
I suspect the US and Russia occupying the whole of the continent 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #33
Certainly it is not justifiable Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #13
Individual member states maintain their own standing military, independent of the EU. Divernan Oct 2012 #15
Seems reasonable to me Sherman A1 Oct 2012 #3
It'll piss off the far right in Europe, which is a Good Thing (nt) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #4
Not forgetting.... T_i_B Oct 2012 #7
It will also piss off the far- (and not so far) right in the US who continually disparage the EU pampango Oct 2012 #9
Every Nobel pisses off the right. It's like it's part of the job description by now. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2012 #30
I guess since we haven't had another World War started by Germany fasttense Oct 2012 #6
The EU did that??? former9thward Oct 2012 #25
We haven't had a world war since the invention of the atomic bomb 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #34
Everyone in Europe adding ‘Nobel Prize Winner’ to their CV dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #8
on par with kissenger and obama getting it SESKATOW Oct 2012 #10
The EU is the single largest donor of foreign aid to Palestinians. Divernan Oct 2012 #14
how does that compare to trade with Israel?? SESKATOW Oct 2012 #16
Your extreme view is woefully uninformed as to the current state of negotiations. Divernan Oct 2012 #19
Divernan- you completely ignored the points I was making. SESKATOW Oct 2012 #43
You're not a fan of Obama, then? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #21
Muriel - he aint no progressive and he aint no dove. SESKATOW Oct 2012 #42
EU's financial sector (Eurozone crisis) originated in US's unregulated banking practises Divernan Oct 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Oct 2012 #12
And the award goes to: jsr Oct 2012 #17
The EU is a political project that the people never voted for. Democratopia Oct 2012 #18
1975: UK embraces Europe in referendum. Divernan Oct 2012 #22
Most countries have had referenda in favour of joining, since 1973 muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #23
Good link - thanks Divernan Oct 2012 #29
Completely Wrong Democratopia Oct 2012 #36
No, I was quite correct, even if you take the strict names muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #38
I am sorry, but you are completely wrong. Democratopia Oct 2012 #44
Is this some new definition of 'wrong' you're using? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #45
a keiser classic SESKATOW Oct 2012 #48
Thanks. On behalf of the Nobel Committee, I shall sacrifice myself as a EU citizen WilmywoodNCparalegal Oct 2012 #20
Why does anyone care what this committee has to say any more? JackRiddler Oct 2012 #24
well, well! I'm heading out to Brussels on Sunday. CTyankee Oct 2012 #27
Have fun! In your honor, I will watch the noirish "In Bruges" again. Divernan Oct 2012 #31
How nice! We will be going to Bruges, actually. And Ghent and Antwerp. CTyankee Oct 2012 #32
Also check out Martin McDonagh's latest film, Seven Psychopaths Divernan Oct 2012 #39
Many, many thanks Divernan! You are a treasure! CTyankee Oct 2012 #41
MissHoneychurch Diclotican Oct 2012 #28
You know MissHoneychurch Oct 2012 #35
MissHoneychurch Diclotican Oct 2012 #37
Reactions from the European far-right: Marine Le Pen, Geert Wilders, Nigel Farage, etc. pampango Oct 2012 #40
Now the EU stands along side peacemakers like Kissinger and Arafat. Old Union Guy Oct 2012 #46
An admirable choice indeed. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #47
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