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In the discussion thread: Doping agency claims 'overwhelming' proof of cheating by cyclist Armstrong [View all]

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:44 PM

70. In that case, that's the REAL story that needs to come out

Right or wrong, many athletes have gotten away with doping despite being tested. I don't condone it but given how commonplace it is, I don't know how I feel about stripping athletes of medals/victories without a positive test. However, if money was paid to hide test results, that's a very different kettle of fish.

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94 replies	Author	Time	Post
Doping agency claims 'overwhelming' proof of cheating by cyclist Armstrong [View all]	IDemo	Oct 2012	OP
Color me shocked	cliffordu	Oct 2012	#1
Well, that kind of puts a nail that whole "Livestrong" stuff.	MADem	Oct 2012	#2
It validates what I've been saying all these years to friends	madokie	Oct 2012	#76
Grant us mercy	slackmaster	Oct 2012	#3
Yep	RobinA	Oct 2012	#44
Are there allegations of crimes?	closeupready	Oct 2012	#4
Looks like the Feds closed their case against him last February	IDemo	Oct 2012	#8
Okay, thanks.	closeupready	Oct 2012	#12
Again another "rehashed scandal of doping in sports" occurring as diversion during political	glinda	Oct 2012	#17
Why they closed it is controversial.	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#30
That entire sport is corrupt	sharp_stick	Oct 2012	#5
It's hard to imagine any sport that isn't corrupt when it comes to PEDs.	HuckleB	Oct 2012	#21
I'd be surprised if any rider in the pro peleton was NOT doping	taught_me_patience	Oct 2012	#38
Could you say a little more about that...	psychopomp	Oct 2012	#92
The back of the peloton is seldom the best place to be, for several reasons	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#93
It's also known as getting dropped	taught_me_patience	Oct 2012	#94
So much for "Armstrong is being persecuted"	Andy Stanton	Oct 2012	#6
Agree with you 100%. A sactimonious cheat getting rich by subverting the system.	byeya	Oct 2012	#20
He is very wealthy - the Govt should sue him for their funding back	adigal	Oct 2012	#7
really?	hockeynut57	Oct 2012	#9
Just ask your doctor, if you don't mind strokes, heart attack, seizures and risk of fatality	just1voice	Oct 2012	#74
Once Armstrong agreed to accept all sanctions I figured something like this would come out.	groundloop	Oct 2012	#10
The TDF Has a Problem	AndyTiedye	Oct 2012	#25
If all used dope then didn't he win the awards fair and sqare?	Missycim	Oct 2012	#34
No	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#46
Yeah, I called it then, too	Blue_Tires	Oct 2012	#83
That kind of outrageous dishonesty takes...	Orrex	Oct 2012	#11
Yep!	brush	Oct 2012	#27
Well, the problem is that the tests that were administered to Armstrong	BlueMTexpat	Oct 2012	#13
More than 500 tests for doping...none of them came back positive. nt.	OldDem2012	Oct 2012	#14
Exactly. eom	BlueMTexpat	Oct 2012	#16
Yup.	truebrit71	Oct 2012	#19
It's not only testimony	Andy Stanton	Oct 2012	#23
Why does it "mean nothing" that Armstrong passed all those drug tests? nt	JudyM	Oct 2012	#24
Armstrong, like all Tour riders, made a science out of beating the system	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#33
I knew way before this happened that they'd get him on something	Missycim	Oct 2012	#35
This is an American prosecution	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#45
Here let me fix that for you ..."This is an American presecution"...	truebrit71	Oct 2012	#48
Nope...you've run out of steam.	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#49
there is no american prosecution	arely staircase	Oct 2012	#67
Prosecution by an American agency	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#77
there is no such thing	arely staircase	Oct 2012	#78
Did you get a law degree from the back of a magazine?	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#79
no they only prosecute those indicted by them	arely staircase	Oct 2012	#81
There are liars and cheats from evey state	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#82
no but	arely staircase	Oct 2012	#84
Then maybe your need to tickle your brainbone a little	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#85
and not even that definition works	arely staircase	Oct 2012	#86
OK	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#87
i am the fan of nobody's ability to ride a bicycle	arely staircase	Oct 2012	#88
I guess you cared enough to click on this thread.	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#89
maybe you should read more slowly or something	arely staircase	Oct 2012	#90
From the person who first believed a prosecution required a grand jury	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#91
yep, everybody but lance is lying..	frylock	Oct 2012	#63
I guess the hundreds of pages of evidence will explain how he beat the system..	snooper2	Oct 2012	#22
Thank you for that. I appreciate another viewpoint and opinion on this.	uppityperson	Oct 2012	#18
There is strong evidence that Armstrong tested positive for EPO in 1999	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#31
In that case, that's the REAL story that needs to come out	Blasphemer	Oct 2012	#70
You have the years backwards	DotGone	Oct 2012	#71
yes, thanks. nt	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#80
Thanks for the information!	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2012	#53
It is pretty black and white at this point.	DanTex	Oct 2012	#57
The Postal Service is doping?	Myrina	Oct 2012	#15
Ever since he lent his "good name" to HeWhoShallNotBeNamed	LiberalLovinLug	Oct 2012	#26
He also hired Karl Rove's legal team to defend him nt	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#32
He must've been using masking agents	toby jo	Oct 2012	#28
It appears to me that the only totally objective proof here is that	humblebum	Oct 2012	#29
You might want to read the actual report and rethink this.	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#41
Yup. Looks like a personal grudge more than anything else...	truebrit71	Oct 2012	#50
Have you read the report?	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#54
Nope, and neither have you..	truebrit71	Oct 2012	#59
Defensive much?	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#61
Not sure where that 500 number came from. I think Lance just made it up.	DanTex	Oct 2012	#62
The 500 number is an outright lie by Lance, his lawyers, and PR team	DotGone	Oct 2012	#65
I have read most if not all riders use some kind of juice	Missycim	Oct 2012	#36
Enough of the blah, blah, blah press releases.	ManiacJoe	Oct 2012	#37
Here's the report	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#42
Thank you for the link!	ManiacJoe	Oct 2012	#69
I don't want to believe.	Ash_F	Oct 2012	#39
You and millions of others.	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#43
Sworn testimony from 23 people = case closed.	Nye Bevan	Oct 2012	#40
Maybe not, but at least two are known liars...	truebrit71	Oct 2012	#51
I don't think they were somehow able to persuade 23 people to commit perjury.	Nye Bevan	Oct 2012	#55
Way more than two.	Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin	Oct 2012	#73
Meh...	Javaman	Oct 2012	#47
He's a Republican	GeorgeGist	Oct 2012	#52
Nope.	truebrit71	Oct 2012	#60
What A Bunch of !!!!!!!!!!!	elbloggoZY27	Oct 2012	#56
Did 23 people perjure themselves and testify against the innocent guy? (nt)	Nye Bevan	Oct 2012	#72
Instant cure for Lance holdouts:	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#58
Update: Armstrong paid Dr Michele Ferrari over $1 Million over his career.	DanTex	Oct 2012	#64
Michele "Doping is not cheating unless you get caught" Ferrari	DotGone	Oct 2012	#66
.	ManiacJoe	Oct 2012	#68
They've come up with a lot of excuses already:	lovemydog	Oct 2012	#75

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