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randome

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61. Bradley Manning was emotionally and mentally unstable.
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:10 PM
Oct 2012

Hardly 'giving up his life' for the cause of freedom.

Will it be difficult to prove the case while hes hiding in the embassy? nt cstanleytech Oct 2012 #1
csta - how is he hiding. We know where he is SESKATOW Oct 2012 #3
Fine. How difficult will it be to prove the case while he is refusing to leave the embassy? cstanleytech Oct 2012 #9
Refusing to leave the embassy SESKATOW Oct 2012 #41
Lets see cstanleytech Oct 2012 #57
he has said SESKATOW Oct 2012 #82
Hey, the doubt you cast was on him doing it which I have shown he did do. cstanleytech Oct 2012 #106
You can claim yet again "that legally they cannot agree to that term", ronnie624 Oct 2012 #110
and sweden has form SESKATOW Oct 2012 #116
there is no good reason why sweden cant question him in london SESKATOW Oct 2012 #115
I imagine the plaintiff would be Wikileaks, not Assange. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #108
The title though was "Julian Assange bids to sue Julia Gillard" not cstanleytech Oct 2012 #146
But it is really about Wikileaks, not just Assange. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #170
Yes however it was Assange who hired the lawyer. nt cstanleytech Oct 2012 #171
Maybe because he wants to know for sure what his legal status is in Australia. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #173
But see I dont dislike him, I just dont believe that this is a vaste conspiracy against him. cstanleytech Oct 2012 #174
Unless they want to establish legal precedent that will intimidate the press. That is totally JDPriestly Oct 2012 #183
I see alot of conjecture there without anything solid though. cstanleytech Oct 2012 #184
All the US has to do is to promise everyone that they consider Wikileak's activities to be as much JDPriestly Oct 2012 #212
I don't think anyone would have a problem with Wikileaks facilitating whistleblowing. randome Oct 2012 #213
How do you differentiate between "military secrets" and news? JDPriestly Oct 2012 #218
How would you know if they're just 'protecting themselves' or... randome Oct 2012 #219
Ok lets break this down. cstanleytech Oct 2012 #215
How is it defamation? treestar Oct 2012 #2
in a word - yes!!!!! SESKATOW Oct 2012 #4
Australia law is as strange in this as United States law is... MrMickeysMom Oct 2012 #5
Why doesn't he go home? wtmusic Oct 2012 #8
Oh, you found evidence that he is to be deported to the US? Link please. nt cstanleytech Oct 2012 #11
Here ya go. wtmusic Oct 2012 #14
Funny how all the "news" articles like this show up in "commentary" and "opinion" sections? George II Oct 2012 #16
Who said it was news? wtmusic Oct 2012 #17
Obviously the poster since this is in "Late Breaking News" !!!! George II Oct 2012 #22
You're confused wtmusic Oct 2012 #23
No, I'm not confused - reread the first post of mine to which you replied: George II Oct 2012 #24
OK I'm thinking...gimme a second. nt wtmusic Oct 2012 #25
Just because he fears he "may" be charged with a crime isnt evidence that he has been charged. cstanleytech Oct 2012 #26
Ah, so he should step outside and see whether he's going to face the death penalty in the US... wtmusic Oct 2012 #29
The streets of London would be mighty empty if everyone was as paranoid as him. George II Oct 2012 #32
No kidding! This moron thinks they're actually out to get him. wtmusic Oct 2012 #35
If they were there waiting for him to leave, don't you think they'd be looking AT the building?? George II Oct 2012 #47
You have a point there, but who knows how long they've been cooling their heels there. freshwest Oct 2012 #80
Are you suggesting that the guards are standing there like the guards at the factory JDPriestly Oct 2012 #109
I'm not suggesting anything... George II Oct 2012 #117
It comes from the statement about what the guards are doing in front of the Ecuadorian Embassy in JDPriestly Oct 2012 #130
They don't look very eager to do anything. 'Just doin' my job, Sir.' freshwest Oct 2012 #79
No, he should step out and do what he agreed to do in the first place when he was granted bail cstanleytech Oct 2012 #58
yikes.. BetterThanNoSN Oct 2012 #118
The claim he might be "disappeared" is imo complete and utter BS. cstanleytech Oct 2012 #136
That's propapanda from one of Assange's many lawyers, Michael Ratner struggle4progress Oct 2012 #37
You apparently have no idea what propaganda is. wtmusic Oct 2012 #39
Without real reference to statute, legislative history, or court case, it can't be "legal opinion": struggle4progress Oct 2012 #64
Did you just make that up? wtmusic Oct 2012 #84
yawn struggle4progress Oct 2012 #99
I'll take that for a "yes". nt wtmusic Oct 2012 #102
If you pull it all together, yeah. But few of the writings on Assange, pro or con, are objective. freshwest Oct 2012 #86
You don't think US breaches of international law are an embarrassment? wtmusic Oct 2012 #90
Embarrassing to who? Me? Yeah, if I was in charge. Were they to Bush? Was slavery an embarrassment freshwest Oct 2012 #95
We agree on the end result wtmusic Oct 2012 #98
Assange could be charged under the Espionage Act... AntiFascist Oct 2012 #153
There is no anti-Assange crowd. There is likely an anti-Wikileaks, anti-Anonymous crowd. freshwest Oct 2012 #155
Sorry but I have to address a number of inaccuracies in your post... AntiFascist Oct 2012 #157
"Crush" Wikileaks? wtmusic Oct 2012 #166
"US Designates Assange 'Enemy of State'" 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #55
Many people seem to have serious reading comprehension problems struggle4progress Oct 2012 #123
Brother! You can say that again. 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #145
The only attribution is to documents they did not deign to print. randome Oct 2012 #147
So it's your contention that these news sites just pulled all this out of their ass? 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #148
It isn't a news article unless it references corroborated documents. randome Oct 2012 #149
Your painstaking denial and selective myopia regarding Assange is duly noted. ~nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #150
Well. So much for debating points. Aspersions are easier to throw about, I suppose. randome Oct 2012 #151
Not to worry about standing out in a crowd! But you have yet to provide a single credible argument sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #176
You evidently don't understand the nature of the charge or why it might be brought struggle4progress Oct 2012 #152
I confess that there IS something I don't understand 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #154
Are Troops Talking to Assange ‘Communicating With the Enemy’? struggle4progress Oct 2012 #187
apparently they are suspicious of "communicating with the enemy" reorg Oct 2012 #197
Well, talking to someone who is, in essence, a foreign spy, might be considered noteworthy. randome Oct 2012 #198
I'll guess you just didn't read the FOIA release carefully. The investigation in this case concerned struggle4progress Oct 2012 #206
oh, I did, but you seem to be struggling to get a grasp reorg Oct 2012 #209
Whoa! Great post. Thanks for all those details. Very helpful. nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #211
Apparently so. 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #210
A Pentagon spokesman said... AntiFascist Oct 2012 #214
The distinction you make is very helpful in understanding this situation 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #216
Why via Sweden? treestar Oct 2012 #18
As a cover for the bullshit allegations of sexual misconduct wtmusic Oct 2012 #20
Why preserve appearances that way? treestar Oct 2012 #28
Whatever wtmusic Oct 2012 #30
are you like a teenager? treestar Oct 2012 #31
I have teenage kids who are smart enough to recognize a trumped-up charge wtmusic Oct 2012 #33
So who has to answer to sex offender charges and who doesn't? treestar Oct 2012 #44
Usually it's when there is some evidence- ANY evidence LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #46
It's still an investigation, and he said he would cooperate with the Swedish investigation... George II Oct 2012 #49
He cooperated up until it got political LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #51
How did it get "political", and who made it that way? George II Oct 2012 #60
No evidence, initial charges dropped... LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #71
Yes, why should not all accusations that end up in indictment or the country's equivalent be taken t treestar Oct 2012 #50
Once more with feeling: evidence is where the line is traditionally drawn LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #52
So he can challenge the Swedish system treestar Oct 2012 #72
It is demonstrably not civilized LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #89
If they have their equivalent of probable cause treestar Oct 2012 #112
What's their probable cause? LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #140
Assange has promised to go to Sweden for a simple promise wtmusic Oct 2012 #65
Why not? treestar Oct 2012 #73
If you can't see, I can't explain it to you. wtmusic Oct 2012 #74
So why can't he answer to the Swedish charges treestar Oct 2012 #75
He has answered to them, you really don't want to know anyway, wtmusic Oct 2012 #76
There are no charges. Going into the third year and the Swedish Prosecutor still refuses to file a sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #175
especially when the "Sex offense" azureblue Oct 2012 #59
So he's hiding out to avoid a $150 fine? msanthrope Oct 2012 #85
... This is an allegation of rape. The framework list is ticked for rape. The defence accepts struggle4progress Oct 2012 #124
she's sleeping so how does she know he raped her? Did she scream? Say no? Did he force her to wordpix Oct 2012 #156
The case will be tried in Sweden. It's inappropriate to try such matters in the media. struggle4progress Oct 2012 #158
yes, if he's innocent he should hang around, get extradicted & possibly found guilty on a wordpix Oct 2012 #193
That would ruin his hopes of becoming an international martyr George II Oct 2012 #48
Rhetorical SESKATOW Oct 2012 #43
"a false accusation of an offense or a malicious misrepresentation of someone's words or actions" wtmusic Oct 2012 #10
Is that Australian law? treestar Oct 2012 #19
He probably missed seeing his name in the headlines so concocted this crazy accusation. George II Oct 2012 #15
+1 especially since she said this in late 2010 treestar Oct 2012 #21
the Australian government has refused to re-issue him with a passport Swagman Oct 2012 #125
That doesn't seem likely treestar Oct 2012 #133
The UK confiscated his passport at the start of the extradition fight struggle4progress Oct 2012 #163
He surrendered his passport as part of a criminal proceeding hack89 Oct 2012 #172
The Australian PM is liable for the lies she told early on and which she was forced to retract after sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #179
" massive condemnation"? hack89 Oct 2012 #185
I love how Wikileaks haters are so in denial about how outside this insulated-from-world-news sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #186
I don't find it upsetting hack89 Oct 2012 #191
Is Assange claiming Wikileaks did NOT release the cables on their website? freshwest Oct 2012 #6
the PM said he had committed a crime which is not true. On that basis Mastercard declined Swagman Oct 2012 #127
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Oct 2012 #138
Julia Gillard is from the left side of the Labor party (our notionally centre left party) soaky Oct 2012 #159
That was the opinion of the radio host. The link was there when I followed the OP link. freshwest Oct 2012 #160
You can safely ignore anything that emanates from any of Alan Jone's orifices! nt soaky Oct 2012 #168
Another week. Another rant against the world. randome Oct 2012 #7
Right - only if he's allowed to pout while doing so. George II Oct 2012 #13
But of course treestar Oct 2012 #27
You forgot the CIA. Okay, it might be covered under the "United States" but I bet he think they msanthrope Oct 2012 #34
The thing Assange came out with last Cha Oct 2012 #56
Oh right ! I had forgotten that one already! treestar Oct 2012 #114
He should learn to face his OWN existing legal issues before creating questionable new ones. George II Oct 2012 #12
Is the irony lost on him? JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #36
So Ass***e is not the big free speech advocate he pretends to be struggle4progress Oct 2012 #38
I would agree wtmusic Oct 2012 #42
Accusing individuals of murder is hardly "transparency in government' boppers Oct 2012 #63
If those individuals are guilty of murder wtmusic Oct 2012 #83
... he used his balcony address to ... cast himself as a guardian of free speech ... struggle4progress Oct 2012 #67
... Patiño praised Assange as a fighter for free expression ... struggle4progress Oct 2012 #69
I was under the impression that he was a government transparency advocate LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #45
Julian Assange Says Obama Is “Criminalizing Free Speech" struggle4progress Oct 2012 #66
HR 437 tama Oct 2012 #194
"... Whoever .. knowingly engages in any act of physical violence against any person or property struggle4progress Oct 2012 #195
How desperate tama Oct 2012 #196
So you don't object to the provisions of 1752(a)(4)? Do you object to 1752(a)(1), which struggle4progress Oct 2012 #201
Is the criticism tama Oct 2012 #203
After reading the text, I have no idea what you're talking about, so mebbe you can clarify: struggle4progress Oct 2012 #205
OK tama Oct 2012 #207
Read the House Judiciary Report: "The United States Secret Service provides protective services struggle4progress Oct 2012 #217
... he accused the US of a ‘witch-hunt’ that threatened freedom of expression ... struggle4progress Oct 2012 #68
"Ass***e" Hissyspit Oct 2012 #128
A Julian Assange story LiberalLovinLug Oct 2012 #40
+1 Kurovski Oct 2012 #53
Bradley Manning was emotionally and mentally unstable. randome Oct 2012 #61
There's no way Manning reviewed and considered 750K documents struggle4progress Oct 2012 #70
Yes he should have hired a staff to help him wtmusic Oct 2012 #77
He can't credibly claim to have been whistle-blowing -- and so he won't claim that struggle4progress Oct 2012 #78
It's all about whistleblowing. wtmusic Oct 2012 #81
Then why didn't he follow the whistleblowing statutes that would have protected him? The MWPA would msanthrope Oct 2012 #88
Not sure, but there could be any number of reasons. wtmusic Oct 2012 #92
Intercepted by whom? Did he really think Dennis Kucinich or Bernie Sanders would not have done the msanthrope Oct 2012 #94
So he would just ring Kucinich's office and say, "Yo, I need to talk to Dennis..." wtmusic Oct 2012 #96
Mr Manning was in the United States in January 2010. He brought with him material that he chose to msanthrope Oct 2012 #139
Do the arithmetic: if he released 750K documents, he couldn't have any clear idea what was in there, struggle4progress Oct 2012 #101
No careful and conscientious enough for you, is he? wtmusic Oct 2012 #104
His lawyer will argue at court martial he's a disturbed young man: struggle4progress Oct 2012 #126
So this negates all the crimes and deceptions in the leaks? LiberalLovinLug Oct 2012 #142
Why can't both those be called out for what they are? randome Oct 2012 #144
Taking advantage of Manning? LiberalLovinLug Oct 2012 #167
Where have you been? randome Oct 2012 #169
Great article. go west young man Oct 2012 #111
I with you LiberalLovinLug Oct 2012 #141
I hope he wins Hydra Oct 2012 #54
Keep the pedal to the metal Julian!!! DeSwiss Oct 2012 #62
The 2006 amendments to Australian defamation law generally limit actions to within one year struggle4progress Oct 2012 #87
Maybe Julian is really hiding in the embassy to escape the various lawyers he's stiffed: struggle4progress Oct 2012 #91
Various? Are there others, or did you just feel the need to pad your non-story? wtmusic Oct 2012 #93
He seems to stiff a lot of folk: those who put up his bail, those who pay him advances for books ... struggle4progress Oct 2012 #97
I bet he doesn't floss either wtmusic Oct 2012 #100
He's a rip-off artist: rips off his lawyers, rips off his publishers, rips off his friends struggle4progress Oct 2012 #103
Got anything besides tabloid fodder? wtmusic Oct 2012 #105
So is the BBC a tabloid now wtmusic? cstanleytech Oct 2012 #107
I've enjoyed reading the rebuttals you have dealt out to these folks! go west young man Oct 2012 #113
His sucker pals are out another $150K with Riddle's ruling today struggle4progress Oct 2012 #120
Ass***e and friends ripped off Michela Wrong's book, too: struggle4progress Oct 2012 #121
Lol, but his 'friend' Domscheidt Berg, remember him, is a paragon of lies, I mean virtue. I'm sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #180
Yes, you forgot to mention that this is the lawyer who 'forgot' to tell his client about the emails sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #177
So you are claiming that Mr. Hurtig was incompetent and harmed Assange? nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #199
Um, I don't think there's any doubt he harmed his client. As was proven in court. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #204
Assange attempt to sue PM 'a stunt': Littlemore struggle4progress Oct 2012 #119
... Assange ... plans to run for the Australian Senate in elections due next year ... struggle4progress Oct 2012 #122
I am quite sickened by some of the attitudes about Assange Swagman Oct 2012 #129
On the up side, it's really just 3-4 posters who are maniacally bent wtmusic Oct 2012 #131
And who miraculously have several hundred anti-Assange links LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #161
If I didn't know better, I might think they were being paid wtmusic Oct 2012 #164
Your method of reckoning is novel. Assange fled Sweden in late September 2010, while struggle4progress Oct 2012 #135
Assange did not flee Sweden and I have told you this multiple times already yet you continue to post sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #178
... On 21st September 2010, the prosecutor contacted the Appellant’s counsel .. to ask struggle4progress Oct 2012 #188
The Assange defense lied about that in UK court, and the UK court caught them lying: struggle4progress Oct 2012 #189
That has zero to do with Assange and you know it. He was told he could leave, period sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #202
... Assange himself told friends in London that he was supposed to return to Stockholm struggle4progress Oct 2012 #190
Don't worry, a majority of people around the world and even here in the US, DO see what is going on sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #181
PM has little to fear from Assange’s new legal threat struggle4progress Oct 2012 #132
Just curious what progress your struggling to expose? go west young man Oct 2012 #134
Assange's lawsuit threats show him to be an habitual bullshitter: struggle4progress Oct 2012 #137
Its all very suspicious isn't it? LiberalLovinLug Oct 2012 #143
I've provided over 20 links in this thread. You've provided none so far. struggle4progress Oct 2012 #192
Links to what? go west young man Oct 2012 #200
It's pretty obvious tama Oct 2012 #208
"defamation as a means of chilling debate" reorg Oct 2012 #162
While we're at it, let's clear up what Hillary Clinton was up to at the UN nt wtmusic Oct 2012 #165
Yes, she is a disgrace. I believer there was discussion of her behavior early on and several sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #182
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