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wtmusic

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8. Why doesn't he go home?
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 01:59 PM
Oct 2012

There are London police outside the Ecuadorean embassy 24/7 who will arrest him and deport him to the U.S. (by way of Sweden) the moment he steps out the door.

Will it be difficult to prove the case while hes hiding in the embassy? nt cstanleytech Oct 2012 #1
csta - how is he hiding. We know where he is SESKATOW Oct 2012 #3
Fine. How difficult will it be to prove the case while he is refusing to leave the embassy? cstanleytech Oct 2012 #9
Refusing to leave the embassy SESKATOW Oct 2012 #41
Lets see cstanleytech Oct 2012 #57
he has said SESKATOW Oct 2012 #82
Hey, the doubt you cast was on him doing it which I have shown he did do. cstanleytech Oct 2012 #106
You can claim yet again "that legally they cannot agree to that term", ronnie624 Oct 2012 #110
and sweden has form SESKATOW Oct 2012 #116
there is no good reason why sweden cant question him in london SESKATOW Oct 2012 #115
I imagine the plaintiff would be Wikileaks, not Assange. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #108
The title though was "Julian Assange bids to sue Julia Gillard" not cstanleytech Oct 2012 #146
But it is really about Wikileaks, not just Assange. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #170
Yes however it was Assange who hired the lawyer. nt cstanleytech Oct 2012 #171
Maybe because he wants to know for sure what his legal status is in Australia. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #173
But see I dont dislike him, I just dont believe that this is a vaste conspiracy against him. cstanleytech Oct 2012 #174
Unless they want to establish legal precedent that will intimidate the press. That is totally JDPriestly Oct 2012 #183
I see alot of conjecture there without anything solid though. cstanleytech Oct 2012 #184
All the US has to do is to promise everyone that they consider Wikileak's activities to be as much JDPriestly Oct 2012 #212
I don't think anyone would have a problem with Wikileaks facilitating whistleblowing. randome Oct 2012 #213
How do you differentiate between "military secrets" and news? JDPriestly Oct 2012 #218
How would you know if they're just 'protecting themselves' or... randome Oct 2012 #219
Ok lets break this down. cstanleytech Oct 2012 #215
How is it defamation? treestar Oct 2012 #2
in a word - yes!!!!! SESKATOW Oct 2012 #4
Australia law is as strange in this as United States law is... MrMickeysMom Oct 2012 #5
Why doesn't he go home? wtmusic Oct 2012 #8
Oh, you found evidence that he is to be deported to the US? Link please. nt cstanleytech Oct 2012 #11
Here ya go. wtmusic Oct 2012 #14
Funny how all the "news" articles like this show up in "commentary" and "opinion" sections? George II Oct 2012 #16
Who said it was news? wtmusic Oct 2012 #17
Obviously the poster since this is in "Late Breaking News" !!!! George II Oct 2012 #22
You're confused wtmusic Oct 2012 #23
No, I'm not confused - reread the first post of mine to which you replied: George II Oct 2012 #24
OK I'm thinking...gimme a second. nt wtmusic Oct 2012 #25
Just because he fears he "may" be charged with a crime isnt evidence that he has been charged. cstanleytech Oct 2012 #26
Ah, so he should step outside and see whether he's going to face the death penalty in the US... wtmusic Oct 2012 #29
The streets of London would be mighty empty if everyone was as paranoid as him. George II Oct 2012 #32
No kidding! This moron thinks they're actually out to get him. wtmusic Oct 2012 #35
If they were there waiting for him to leave, don't you think they'd be looking AT the building?? George II Oct 2012 #47
You have a point there, but who knows how long they've been cooling their heels there. freshwest Oct 2012 #80
Are you suggesting that the guards are standing there like the guards at the factory JDPriestly Oct 2012 #109
I'm not suggesting anything... George II Oct 2012 #117
It comes from the statement about what the guards are doing in front of the Ecuadorian Embassy in JDPriestly Oct 2012 #130
They don't look very eager to do anything. 'Just doin' my job, Sir.' freshwest Oct 2012 #79
No, he should step out and do what he agreed to do in the first place when he was granted bail cstanleytech Oct 2012 #58
yikes.. BetterThanNoSN Oct 2012 #118
The claim he might be "disappeared" is imo complete and utter BS. cstanleytech Oct 2012 #136
That's propapanda from one of Assange's many lawyers, Michael Ratner struggle4progress Oct 2012 #37
You apparently have no idea what propaganda is. wtmusic Oct 2012 #39
Without real reference to statute, legislative history, or court case, it can't be "legal opinion": struggle4progress Oct 2012 #64
Did you just make that up? wtmusic Oct 2012 #84
yawn struggle4progress Oct 2012 #99
I'll take that for a "yes". nt wtmusic Oct 2012 #102
If you pull it all together, yeah. But few of the writings on Assange, pro or con, are objective. freshwest Oct 2012 #86
You don't think US breaches of international law are an embarrassment? wtmusic Oct 2012 #90
Embarrassing to who? Me? Yeah, if I was in charge. Were they to Bush? Was slavery an embarrassment freshwest Oct 2012 #95
We agree on the end result wtmusic Oct 2012 #98
Assange could be charged under the Espionage Act... AntiFascist Oct 2012 #153
There is no anti-Assange crowd. There is likely an anti-Wikileaks, anti-Anonymous crowd. freshwest Oct 2012 #155
Sorry but I have to address a number of inaccuracies in your post... AntiFascist Oct 2012 #157
"Crush" Wikileaks? wtmusic Oct 2012 #166
"US Designates Assange 'Enemy of State'" 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #55
Many people seem to have serious reading comprehension problems struggle4progress Oct 2012 #123
Brother! You can say that again. 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #145
The only attribution is to documents they did not deign to print. randome Oct 2012 #147
So it's your contention that these news sites just pulled all this out of their ass? 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #148
It isn't a news article unless it references corroborated documents. randome Oct 2012 #149
Your painstaking denial and selective myopia regarding Assange is duly noted. ~nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #150
Well. So much for debating points. Aspersions are easier to throw about, I suppose. randome Oct 2012 #151
Not to worry about standing out in a crowd! But you have yet to provide a single credible argument sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #176
You evidently don't understand the nature of the charge or why it might be brought struggle4progress Oct 2012 #152
I confess that there IS something I don't understand 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #154
Are Troops Talking to Assange ‘Communicating With the Enemy’? struggle4progress Oct 2012 #187
apparently they are suspicious of "communicating with the enemy" reorg Oct 2012 #197
Well, talking to someone who is, in essence, a foreign spy, might be considered noteworthy. randome Oct 2012 #198
I'll guess you just didn't read the FOIA release carefully. The investigation in this case concerned struggle4progress Oct 2012 #206
oh, I did, but you seem to be struggling to get a grasp reorg Oct 2012 #209
Whoa! Great post. Thanks for all those details. Very helpful. nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #211
Apparently so. 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #210
A Pentagon spokesman said... AntiFascist Oct 2012 #214
The distinction you make is very helpful in understanding this situation 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #216
Why via Sweden? treestar Oct 2012 #18
As a cover for the bullshit allegations of sexual misconduct wtmusic Oct 2012 #20
Why preserve appearances that way? treestar Oct 2012 #28
Whatever wtmusic Oct 2012 #30
are you like a teenager? treestar Oct 2012 #31
I have teenage kids who are smart enough to recognize a trumped-up charge wtmusic Oct 2012 #33
So who has to answer to sex offender charges and who doesn't? treestar Oct 2012 #44
Usually it's when there is some evidence- ANY evidence LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #46
It's still an investigation, and he said he would cooperate with the Swedish investigation... George II Oct 2012 #49
He cooperated up until it got political LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #51
How did it get "political", and who made it that way? George II Oct 2012 #60
No evidence, initial charges dropped... LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #71
Yes, why should not all accusations that end up in indictment or the country's equivalent be taken t treestar Oct 2012 #50
Once more with feeling: evidence is where the line is traditionally drawn LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #52
So he can challenge the Swedish system treestar Oct 2012 #72
It is demonstrably not civilized LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #89
If they have their equivalent of probable cause treestar Oct 2012 #112
What's their probable cause? LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #140
Assange has promised to go to Sweden for a simple promise wtmusic Oct 2012 #65
Why not? treestar Oct 2012 #73
If you can't see, I can't explain it to you. wtmusic Oct 2012 #74
So why can't he answer to the Swedish charges treestar Oct 2012 #75
He has answered to them, you really don't want to know anyway, wtmusic Oct 2012 #76
There are no charges. Going into the third year and the Swedish Prosecutor still refuses to file a sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #175
especially when the "Sex offense" azureblue Oct 2012 #59
So he's hiding out to avoid a $150 fine? msanthrope Oct 2012 #85
... This is an allegation of rape. The framework list is ticked for rape. The defence accepts struggle4progress Oct 2012 #124
she's sleeping so how does she know he raped her? Did she scream? Say no? Did he force her to wordpix Oct 2012 #156
The case will be tried in Sweden. It's inappropriate to try such matters in the media. struggle4progress Oct 2012 #158
yes, if he's innocent he should hang around, get extradicted & possibly found guilty on a wordpix Oct 2012 #193
That would ruin his hopes of becoming an international martyr George II Oct 2012 #48
Rhetorical SESKATOW Oct 2012 #43
"a false accusation of an offense or a malicious misrepresentation of someone's words or actions" wtmusic Oct 2012 #10
Is that Australian law? treestar Oct 2012 #19
He probably missed seeing his name in the headlines so concocted this crazy accusation. George II Oct 2012 #15
+1 especially since she said this in late 2010 treestar Oct 2012 #21
the Australian government has refused to re-issue him with a passport Swagman Oct 2012 #125
That doesn't seem likely treestar Oct 2012 #133
The UK confiscated his passport at the start of the extradition fight struggle4progress Oct 2012 #163
He surrendered his passport as part of a criminal proceeding hack89 Oct 2012 #172
The Australian PM is liable for the lies she told early on and which she was forced to retract after sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #179
" massive condemnation"? hack89 Oct 2012 #185
I love how Wikileaks haters are so in denial about how outside this insulated-from-world-news sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #186
I don't find it upsetting hack89 Oct 2012 #191
Is Assange claiming Wikileaks did NOT release the cables on their website? freshwest Oct 2012 #6
the PM said he had committed a crime which is not true. On that basis Mastercard declined Swagman Oct 2012 #127
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Oct 2012 #138
Julia Gillard is from the left side of the Labor party (our notionally centre left party) soaky Oct 2012 #159
That was the opinion of the radio host. The link was there when I followed the OP link. freshwest Oct 2012 #160
You can safely ignore anything that emanates from any of Alan Jone's orifices! nt soaky Oct 2012 #168
Another week. Another rant against the world. randome Oct 2012 #7
Right - only if he's allowed to pout while doing so. George II Oct 2012 #13
But of course treestar Oct 2012 #27
You forgot the CIA. Okay, it might be covered under the "United States" but I bet he think they msanthrope Oct 2012 #34
The thing Assange came out with last Cha Oct 2012 #56
Oh right ! I had forgotten that one already! treestar Oct 2012 #114
He should learn to face his OWN existing legal issues before creating questionable new ones. George II Oct 2012 #12
Is the irony lost on him? JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #36
So Ass***e is not the big free speech advocate he pretends to be struggle4progress Oct 2012 #38
I would agree wtmusic Oct 2012 #42
Accusing individuals of murder is hardly "transparency in government' boppers Oct 2012 #63
If those individuals are guilty of murder wtmusic Oct 2012 #83
... he used his balcony address to ... cast himself as a guardian of free speech ... struggle4progress Oct 2012 #67
... Patiño praised Assange as a fighter for free expression ... struggle4progress Oct 2012 #69
I was under the impression that he was a government transparency advocate LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #45
Julian Assange Says Obama Is “Criminalizing Free Speech" struggle4progress Oct 2012 #66
HR 437 tama Oct 2012 #194
"... Whoever .. knowingly engages in any act of physical violence against any person or property struggle4progress Oct 2012 #195
How desperate tama Oct 2012 #196
So you don't object to the provisions of 1752(a)(4)? Do you object to 1752(a)(1), which struggle4progress Oct 2012 #201
Is the criticism tama Oct 2012 #203
After reading the text, I have no idea what you're talking about, so mebbe you can clarify: struggle4progress Oct 2012 #205
OK tama Oct 2012 #207
Read the House Judiciary Report: "The United States Secret Service provides protective services struggle4progress Oct 2012 #217
... he accused the US of a ‘witch-hunt’ that threatened freedom of expression ... struggle4progress Oct 2012 #68
"Ass***e" Hissyspit Oct 2012 #128
A Julian Assange story LiberalLovinLug Oct 2012 #40
+1 Kurovski Oct 2012 #53
Bradley Manning was emotionally and mentally unstable. randome Oct 2012 #61
There's no way Manning reviewed and considered 750K documents struggle4progress Oct 2012 #70
Yes he should have hired a staff to help him wtmusic Oct 2012 #77
He can't credibly claim to have been whistle-blowing -- and so he won't claim that struggle4progress Oct 2012 #78
It's all about whistleblowing. wtmusic Oct 2012 #81
Then why didn't he follow the whistleblowing statutes that would have protected him? The MWPA would msanthrope Oct 2012 #88
Not sure, but there could be any number of reasons. wtmusic Oct 2012 #92
Intercepted by whom? Did he really think Dennis Kucinich or Bernie Sanders would not have done the msanthrope Oct 2012 #94
So he would just ring Kucinich's office and say, "Yo, I need to talk to Dennis..." wtmusic Oct 2012 #96
Mr Manning was in the United States in January 2010. He brought with him material that he chose to msanthrope Oct 2012 #139
Do the arithmetic: if he released 750K documents, he couldn't have any clear idea what was in there, struggle4progress Oct 2012 #101
No careful and conscientious enough for you, is he? wtmusic Oct 2012 #104
His lawyer will argue at court martial he's a disturbed young man: struggle4progress Oct 2012 #126
So this negates all the crimes and deceptions in the leaks? LiberalLovinLug Oct 2012 #142
Why can't both those be called out for what they are? randome Oct 2012 #144
Taking advantage of Manning? LiberalLovinLug Oct 2012 #167
Where have you been? randome Oct 2012 #169
Great article. go west young man Oct 2012 #111
I with you LiberalLovinLug Oct 2012 #141
I hope he wins Hydra Oct 2012 #54
Keep the pedal to the metal Julian!!! DeSwiss Oct 2012 #62
The 2006 amendments to Australian defamation law generally limit actions to within one year struggle4progress Oct 2012 #87
Maybe Julian is really hiding in the embassy to escape the various lawyers he's stiffed: struggle4progress Oct 2012 #91
Various? Are there others, or did you just feel the need to pad your non-story? wtmusic Oct 2012 #93
He seems to stiff a lot of folk: those who put up his bail, those who pay him advances for books ... struggle4progress Oct 2012 #97
I bet he doesn't floss either wtmusic Oct 2012 #100
He's a rip-off artist: rips off his lawyers, rips off his publishers, rips off his friends struggle4progress Oct 2012 #103
Got anything besides tabloid fodder? wtmusic Oct 2012 #105
So is the BBC a tabloid now wtmusic? cstanleytech Oct 2012 #107
I've enjoyed reading the rebuttals you have dealt out to these folks! go west young man Oct 2012 #113
His sucker pals are out another $150K with Riddle's ruling today struggle4progress Oct 2012 #120
Ass***e and friends ripped off Michela Wrong's book, too: struggle4progress Oct 2012 #121
Lol, but his 'friend' Domscheidt Berg, remember him, is a paragon of lies, I mean virtue. I'm sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #180
Yes, you forgot to mention that this is the lawyer who 'forgot' to tell his client about the emails sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #177
So you are claiming that Mr. Hurtig was incompetent and harmed Assange? nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #199
Um, I don't think there's any doubt he harmed his client. As was proven in court. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #204
Assange attempt to sue PM 'a stunt': Littlemore struggle4progress Oct 2012 #119
... Assange ... plans to run for the Australian Senate in elections due next year ... struggle4progress Oct 2012 #122
I am quite sickened by some of the attitudes about Assange Swagman Oct 2012 #129
On the up side, it's really just 3-4 posters who are maniacally bent wtmusic Oct 2012 #131
And who miraculously have several hundred anti-Assange links LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #161
If I didn't know better, I might think they were being paid wtmusic Oct 2012 #164
Your method of reckoning is novel. Assange fled Sweden in late September 2010, while struggle4progress Oct 2012 #135
Assange did not flee Sweden and I have told you this multiple times already yet you continue to post sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #178
... On 21st September 2010, the prosecutor contacted the Appellant’s counsel .. to ask struggle4progress Oct 2012 #188
The Assange defense lied about that in UK court, and the UK court caught them lying: struggle4progress Oct 2012 #189
That has zero to do with Assange and you know it. He was told he could leave, period sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #202
... Assange himself told friends in London that he was supposed to return to Stockholm struggle4progress Oct 2012 #190
Don't worry, a majority of people around the world and even here in the US, DO see what is going on sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #181
PM has little to fear from Assange’s new legal threat struggle4progress Oct 2012 #132
Just curious what progress your struggling to expose? go west young man Oct 2012 #134
Assange's lawsuit threats show him to be an habitual bullshitter: struggle4progress Oct 2012 #137
Its all very suspicious isn't it? LiberalLovinLug Oct 2012 #143
I've provided over 20 links in this thread. You've provided none so far. struggle4progress Oct 2012 #192
Links to what? go west young man Oct 2012 #200
It's pretty obvious tama Oct 2012 #208
"defamation as a means of chilling debate" reorg Oct 2012 #162
While we're at it, let's clear up what Hillary Clinton was up to at the UN nt wtmusic Oct 2012 #165
Yes, she is a disgrace. I believer there was discussion of her behavior early on and several sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #182
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