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MADem

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81. Calling her a "bad role model" was kind of mean, I think.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 06:23 PM
Oct 2012

I do agree that his original message (that she was overweight) was entirely true but rather cruelly stated, particularly since he didn't know if she had any medical issues. The guy looks like he uses steroids to bulk up to me, which are known to cause heart disease (ask Ahhhnuld), he should know that they can cause serious weight gain when used for medical problems.

I don't think what he said rises to bullying, I just think he was a bit of a dick for stating the obvious and then ascribing motives to the woman (like she regards it as a "lifestyle choice" or something and gleefully pounds down the Ring Dings and Ho Ho's to keep the weight on).

If he was an "occasional viewer" of the channel he must have known she had three girls. The point could also be made to this guy's children that anyone who shoots off his mouth about the medical issues of others that they do not know personally is a big-mouthed blow hard who embarrasses himself and disgraces his family. I'm betting if this guy has a spouse and kids, they're hiding and denying the guy because he came off as a real jerk--not a bully, just a jerk.

People who have those "shoot of yer mouth" internet tough guy personalities often die sooner than the sedentary fattie with a good attitude. I had a great granny who was a big old gal who never exercised, made her poor husband do everything for her (and he did, he was a thin old man and he didn't last nearly as long as she did), and she lived to near a hundred with a big smile on her face! You just never know...it's certainly not a "benign factor" in all cases, but in some cases they are learning that the issue is more fitness than fatness (not that my great granny had the former--I think she had "lucky genes," but I think you get my drift).

And another fundamentalist spews his nonsense. HuckleB Oct 2012 #1
Is he a fundamentalist, too? The article didn't say anything about him, really. MADem Oct 2012 #58
He might be a fundie religionist, but he's certainly a fundy body imagist. HuckleB Oct 2012 #129
He's an atheist, it turns out. Read downthread... nt MADem Oct 2012 #155
Well, part two still fits. HuckleB Oct 2012 #157
Hah.... He just wants his 15 minutes of fame... MrMickeysMom Oct 2012 #310
Ah. He's a personal injury lawyer. Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #91
Oh. And he's a secular, atheist advocate???? Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #93
There are always bigots in every group. n/t Ian David Oct 2012 #96
But a self-righteous, judgmental, healthier-than-thou atheist? Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #97
This is not a position from "Atheist Scripture." Not how bigotry is written into yours. n/t Ian David Oct 2012 #99
?????? Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #108
Nobody has written a condemnation of the obese into the Affirmation of Humanist Principles. Ian David Oct 2012 #116
Is there any rule that all atheists have to follow those principles? MADem Oct 2012 #123
No, there is not. Which is just one more reason why Atheism isn't a religion. n/t Ian David Oct 2012 #135
Why even mention those principles, then, I have to wonder, as if they are authoritative? nt MADem Oct 2012 #156
Because his bigotry isn't based on them, the way religious people's bigotry is so often... Ian David Oct 2012 #214
Then they shouldn't be part of the conversation at all, if they have nothing to do with MADem Oct 2012 #221
I agree. I wasn't the one that brought it up. n/t Ian David Oct 2012 #262
I have mentioned often that I grew up in a Fundamentalist baptist home/church OriginalGeek Oct 2012 #137
LMAO at "casserole eatin' fools!" n/t bitchkitty Oct 2012 #148
This particular bigotry can be found all along the "believer/non believer" spectrum. HuckleB Oct 2012 #132
Just because one is atheist... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2012 #188
Sounds like he's from the militant rationalist strain. DirkGently Oct 2012 #190
He's not a true atheist! PassingFair Oct 2012 #287
Or a devotee of Michelle Obama? earthside Oct 2012 #127
How is promoting healthful eating the same as attacking an individual... HuckleB Oct 2012 #134
There's a difference between promoting healthy choices & holding the obese up for scorn & ridicule. Ian David Oct 2012 #138
You shouldn't have needed to say that CreekDog Oct 2012 #263
An ambulance chasing atheist, actually--giving atheists a bad name! MADem Oct 2012 #118
Most of the lawyers I know or have done business with play their cards R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2012 #160
Maybe he can't pedal that bike of his fast enough to catch an ambulance, and he's taking it out on MADem Oct 2012 #184
Well he is wrong. Who is he to judge someone like that? southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #2
this guy sounds like a fucking jackass JI7 Oct 2012 #3
Is this really Paul Ryan hiding under the guise of Kenneth Krause? hamsterjill Oct 2012 #4
What an asshole! Behind the Aegis Oct 2012 #5
doubling down shanti Oct 2012 #14
! OriginalGeek Oct 2012 #139
agreed hrmjustin Oct 2012 #161
First thing that came to mind... louis-t Oct 2012 #6
Why this guy gets any more attention for being a dick is beyond me. Brickbat Oct 2012 #7
Amen to that. He sounds like a superdick, and if he has a wife or girlfriend, raccoon Oct 2012 #283
I thought the same thing when I first heard about this. The guy is an irrelevant asshole, why give octothorpe Oct 2012 #302
I'd love to see a picture of him tandot Oct 2012 #8
Here is a picture of him, for all he works out he still looks like a Douche JI7 Oct 2012 #9
Ugh ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Oct 2012 #42
I'm guessing he pretty much has the soul of THIS guy: Ken Burch Oct 2012 #44
He looks like he uses ... supplements! Perhaps even injectables! nt MADem Oct 2012 #60
He looks like the love child of Paul Ryan and Eric Cantor csziggy Oct 2012 #85
I bet he's got a really small leftstreet Oct 2012 #131
...nice one... Ken Burch Oct 2012 #146
He's a butter face. smokey nj Oct 2012 #141
maybe he works out so much to take attention away from the face JI7 Oct 2012 #211
Insulting his appearance is probably not a great way to convey the message 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #224
What comes around goes around. If he hadn't viciously attacked Ms. Livingston's appearance smokey nj Oct 2012 #245
Your conclusion does not fit the information 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #247
I'm not arguing with you. You don't like what I posted, tough shit. smokey nj Oct 2012 #255
+1 Justitia Oct 2012 #270
He's good looking and fit, but so what? Beacool Oct 2012 #175
That bike runs $7,200 - $10,000 LaurenG Oct 2012 #251
funny how he didn't have the balls to go on the air and say that to her face. ejpoeta Oct 2012 #10
Well, what medications tend to make balls...er...go away(or at least get smaller)? Ken Burch Oct 2012 #77
Gonna put on my armored suit here... Atman Oct 2012 #11
no argument from me. I did not see what he did as bullying at all. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #22
I think he's extremely arrogant, not a bully. Kurovski Oct 2012 #64
I don't see it as bullying either, but the guy is an asshole. octothorpe Oct 2012 #303
I will stand with you on this one, Atman. murielm99 Oct 2012 #26
I can't believe I'm seeing people on a progressive message board defending Krause's bigotry. alp227 Oct 2012 #32
You disagree with it, so it is bigotry? murielm99 Oct 2012 #143
Exactly, this sort of attitude is only appropriate when discussing Chris Christie, hughee99 Oct 2012 #252
Avoid high fructose corn syrup at all costs. Kurovski Oct 2012 #133
I think it would be great if they got together and worked on her fitness. sammytko Oct 2012 #173
I will enlighten you. "Obesity is like Alcholism an Addiction" but you got to eat. Stuart G Oct 2012 #30
I once had to work with a doctor FloridaJudy Oct 2012 #149
absolute nonsense GirlinContempt Oct 2012 #179
Love-dovey politically correct? Uhh, are you sure you're on the right forum? alp227 Oct 2012 #31
I am in the correct forum..I know put downs when I read and see them.. Stuart G Oct 2012 #51
JFK Started a Physical Fitness Program for American Schoolchildren mckara Oct 2012 #34
"The anchorwoman was a victim because someone asked her to demonstrate a little self-restraint?" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #41
Why Did JFK Care About Our Nation? mckara Oct 2012 #55
did JFK act like a dick and call out any one specific person? frylock Oct 2012 #147
Did he publish his email? bitchkitty Oct 2012 #154
he's a fucking dick.. frylock Oct 2012 #164
I agree that he's a dick. n/t bitchkitty Oct 2012 #217
Harry Truman Said it Best Regarding People in Public Life: mckara Oct 2012 #200
She is not a public figure obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #228
i put it better when i said fuck this asshole.. frylock Oct 2012 #250
1400 posts is low? Damn do I have a way to go ! Pacafishmate Oct 2012 #253
JFK didn't pick on individuals and humilate them! ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #187
JFK was the President and also didn't single out someone obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #227
And you and the other posters know that she does not exercise self restraint, how? NikolaC Oct 2012 #56
Regardless of the Personalities in Question mckara Oct 2012 #75
He wasn't "asking questions." He's a concern troll couching insult as "advice." DirkGently Oct 2012 #189
Therefore, Since You are King, You Revoke His Right to Express an Opinion mckara Oct 2012 #197
That's a very silly strawman. Noticing he's an ass isn't censorship. DirkGently Oct 2012 #288
She is not a public figure, she has a job in the public eye obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #229
C,mon Man! Do a Little Homework Before Spouting Emotional Reactions! mckara Oct 2012 #236
Do your own homework. Defamation has nothing to do with this. DirkGently Oct 2012 #289
That is Not the Point. Nobody is Defending the "Ass" mckara Oct 2012 #290
really? GirlinContempt Oct 2012 #238
Addressing the problem lalalu Oct 2012 #70
Absolutely! I Agree! mckara Oct 2012 #105
you can not solve GirlinContempt Oct 2012 #274
+1000 Atman Oct 2012 #172
sigh GirlinContempt Oct 2012 #273
I remember the President's Physical Fitness Test Atman Oct 2012 #165
This message was self-deleted by its author radicalliberal Oct 2012 #203
Wow! Quite a rant! Atman Oct 2012 #215
I'll accept that as a compliment. radicalliberal Oct 2012 #275
Amen! lolly Oct 2012 #304
Thank you! I feel vindicated. :-) radicalliberal Oct 2012 #308
Yes, and I failed every time. Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #265
Don't confuse them with the truth. radicalliberal Oct 2012 #276
He WAS a bully, and a cowardly one at that obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #226
'Obesity causes our health insurance premiums to rise' BS! leftstreet Oct 2012 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Oct 2012 #48
I hope you have strong armor lalalu Oct 2012 #67
Calling her a "bad role model" was kind of mean, I think. MADem Oct 2012 #81
She has a thyroid condition. emmadoggy Oct 2012 #87
Well, there it is, then--he shot his mouth off about her thyroid condition. MADem Oct 2012 #112
I have a thyroid condition, too, and murielm99 Oct 2012 #142
Would you like someone calling you a shitty role model without knowing your condition? nt MADem Oct 2012 #159
I have been called all sorts of things, murielm99 Oct 2012 #180
So you would just eat it? You think it's "OK" for people to characterize you unfairly? MADem Oct 2012 #183
When did I say it was fine and dandy? murielm99 Oct 2012 #193
You said people say things all the time to you. Well, they do to this woman, and she fought back. MADem Oct 2012 #196
Just for the record - emmadoggy Oct 2012 #192
Personally, I don't see why she has to explain anything to anyone. Sivafae Oct 2012 #294
You are absolutely correct. nt emmadoggy Oct 2012 #311
I was hoping someone would point that out before I did........ llmart Oct 2012 #126
If he had said this about a male anchor I think the outrage would have been muted 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #219
Two words to prove that is nonsense: Atman Oct 2012 #286
Ok, he was A) a man 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #300
Actually, yes. Atman Oct 2012 #312
Clearly, all fat people are morons. ucralum Oct 2012 #119
And all children look to news anchors as role models leftstreet Oct 2012 #124
Good point -- how many kids watch the local news? obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #230
Righteous rant! Thank you. nt LaurenG Oct 2012 #145
Excellent post. ++ DirkGently Oct 2012 #191
You should post more! Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #195
Oh, the bigots are strong in this thread. Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #266
You really don't see that it's none of his fucking business to tell her anything LaurenG Oct 2012 #122
+1000. nt raccoon Oct 2012 #285
I agree with you. I don't see any bullying. People might not like what he said to her personally IndyJones Oct 2012 #202
You honestly think it's acceptable to email a stranger Union Scribe Oct 2012 #207
It's interesting 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #218
I agree to some extent. His point is valid. But, obese or not, the anchor should be on TV. sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #220
Hopefully your negative role modeling GirlinContempt Oct 2012 #243
Telling them that being obese is AOK isn't being honest. sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #248
neither is GirlinContempt Oct 2012 #257
I couldn't disagree more. Health is directly tied to weight. How many Type II diabetes sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #261
well you're wrong. GirlinContempt Oct 2012 #268
Tell it to the National Diabetes Assocation and the American Heart Association. sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #279
if that is the best you can do GirlinContempt Oct 2012 #280
I don't feel like copying all 4,162,000 medical studies here. A review of the web sites sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #313
hmm... chervilant Oct 2012 #282
Health is also directly tied to age. Sivafae Oct 2012 #295
Let's see... chervilant Oct 2012 #223
Why did this POS think it was necessary for him to point it out? Is he the healtlh police? raccoon Oct 2012 #284
Let's say your mother, daughter, sister is overweight. How would you feel about a total stranger raccoon Oct 2012 #298
What really blew my mind was... Frisbee Oct 2012 #12
There are a lot of people like him. madaboutharry Oct 2012 #13
Ahhhnuld can't bear to look in a mirror anymore. MADem Oct 2012 #90
Even here. nt Union Scribe Oct 2012 #208
Funny thing is.... charlena2006 Oct 2012 #291
Has he issued similar statements to Rush, Neal Cavuto or Candy Crowley? azurnoir Oct 2012 #15
Forget Rush and Cavuto, how about Chris Christie? DavidL Oct 2012 #20
THIS! GObamaGO Oct 2012 #264
One word comes to mind...dipshit. McCamy Taylor Oct 2012 #16
sigh. that wasn't the point. he did nOT bring up her looks. He brought up childhood obesity... progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #18
Well, Stephen Hawking is a shitty role model, because he doesn't exercise every day. MADem Oct 2012 #163
And I wonder what it costs the NHS to keep him alive.... Sivafae Oct 2012 #296
Flame me. But his letter was not bullying. She is obese, in fact. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #17
Convince me of that when he says that to Chris Christie ... DavidL Oct 2012 #24
Wonderfully put! llmart Oct 2012 #130
I've seen Chris Christie chase a guy down the boardwalk with an ice cream in his mouth! MADem Oct 2012 #170
Great point, every person without a perfect body is a.. DavidL Oct 2012 #174
It's not bullying to make assumptions about someone's health and lifestyle from the way they look sybylla Oct 2012 #29
What about the teenage girls who get eating disorders to AVOID obesity? alp227 Oct 2012 #35
Oh, come on. kstewart33 Oct 2012 #53
I didn't defend CHILDHOOD obesity, rather let's not teach children to be fat-phobic. alp227 Oct 2012 #66
Do you not understand Kumbricia Oct 2012 #80
Whatever, go defend your own weight. LaurenG Oct 2012 #210
How was he bullying? kstewart33 Oct 2012 #39
You have no idea what the state if her health is Beaverhausen Oct 2012 #59
She is obese. kstewart33 Oct 2012 #82
Do some better googling and see what difference it makes dmallind Oct 2012 #239
um wrong GirlinContempt Oct 2012 #269
America will be known as WALL-E world lalalu Oct 2012 #71
She's not a role model kurtzapril4 Oct 2012 #74
"Get a handle on her health" teenagebambam Oct 2012 #78
He called her a BAD ROLE MODEL. That's an attack. MADem Oct 2012 #168
It was classic bullying obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #231
And, what has he done for local childhood obesity? obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #232
WELL!!!!!!! Candy Crowley clydefrand Oct 2012 #19
In the last 2 years, Ms. Crowley has lost a lot of weight. kstewart33 Oct 2012 #28
all the pictures I could find of her (Google images) azurnoir Oct 2012 #33
Me too. kstewart33 Oct 2012 #46
She's 63? Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #101
yep according to wiki she was born 12/26/48 I know she doesn't look it though azurnoir Oct 2012 #109
Oops. Sorry. I lost the train of the thread. I thought we were Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #111
I think s/he's referring to Candy Crowley. nt kstewart33 Oct 2012 #110
Yup. My bad. I jumped in without realizing who was being discussed. Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #113
I know what you mean clydefrand Oct 2012 #177
In the last four years, she's lost a lot of weight--and she's gaining it BACK. MADem Oct 2012 #100
And Krause -- the "occasional viewer" -- can take a stand against by illegal drugs... Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #21
He's an arrogant son of a bitch....but he's not a fundy ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #23
What the hey is wrong with being a health nut? nt kstewart33 Oct 2012 #47
Nothing wrong, just as it's not wrong to be religious.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #52
My motto: kurtzapril4 Oct 2012 #84
Geez, what a negative outlook. kstewart33 Oct 2012 #107
Funny - all the young dead athletic types get this excuse dmallind Oct 2012 #240
Healthier than thou. Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #114
Better than you? bitchkitty Oct 2012 #144
Just because you choose not to eat healthy.. frylock Oct 2012 #166
Um, I have the ability to bitchkitty Oct 2012 #182
It seems to me like the health nuts kurtzapril4 Oct 2012 #201
I'm sorry that people hurt you. bitchkitty Oct 2012 #241
there are health advocates and there are health nuts.. frylock Oct 2012 #249
No casting judgement here. bitchkitty Oct 2012 #256
if somebody spends 20+ hours in the gym to work on their pythons.. frylock Oct 2012 #259
"Smug? Hell, no." Scout Oct 2012 #260
Nice to see you can crack yourself up. bitchkitty Oct 2012 #267
Why in the hell kurtzapril4 Oct 2012 #198
Good point. nt kstewart33 Oct 2012 #92
it becomes a problem when you start passing judgement on others.. frylock Oct 2012 #162
Fundamentalist GirlinContempt Oct 2012 #244
That's true ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #246
Fuck You, Kenneth Krause. Iggo Oct 2012 #25
this.. frylock Oct 2012 #167
Does anybody know what this Krause guy looks like? Ken Burch Oct 2012 #37
Post #9 ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #45
After I posted that, I saw that picture. Ken Burch Oct 2012 #61
I'm not alone, then--that's what I saw, too. nt MADem Oct 2012 #103
What a disgusting piece of shit. nt Comrade_McKenzie Oct 2012 #38
Anybody think he'd ever have sent an email like this to a non-emaciated MALE news anchor? Ken Burch Oct 2012 #40
What a fuckwit. sybylla Oct 2012 #43
word frylock Oct 2012 #169
Watch what is going to happen here ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #49
"...by transforming herself for all of her viewers to see over the next year..." SoapBox Oct 2012 #50
Creepy suggestion- she's a fucking reporter not a reality show contestant bettyellen Oct 2012 #309
The explosion in the obesity rate is not totally confine to gluttony d06204 Oct 2012 #54
YOu are correct about chemical manipulation...here is another reference.. Stuart G Oct 2012 #57
Thanks for the links. d06204 Oct 2012 #121
I actually agree that there is more to it lalalu Oct 2012 #86
Update at link below... Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #62
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #63
OMG, this thread is reading like Free Republic more and more. alp227 Oct 2012 #68
I am as liberal as you can get lalalu Oct 2012 #73
I agree. kstewart33 Oct 2012 #88
W-H-Y are we using an innocently large-sized WOMAN to scaremonger CHILDHOOD obesity???? alp227 Oct 2012 #115
Probably not as much as you like to think you are. nt Union Scribe Oct 2012 #209
People who use words like "blubbering" and "whine" and "crybabies" ARE BULLYING carolinayellowdog Oct 2012 #128
+1 TDale313 Oct 2012 #150
Yep. cordelia Oct 2012 #178
It sounds to me like this rude guy ... surrealAmerican Oct 2012 #65
Some (many?) people who work out a lot have real contempt for overweight people. Peregrine Took Oct 2012 #69
There is an awful feeling about the letter that Krause wrote. It is bullying, put down, I am better Stuart G Oct 2012 #72
How the hell is a news anchor a "role model for children?" Faygo Kid Oct 2012 #76
OH..I get it now...this letter was just some kind of prank.you know.. Stuart G Oct 2012 #79
Do you mean Romney chasing, grabbing, and holding down a gay student and cutting off his long hair? Kurovski Oct 2012 #89
You are correct, I sould not have compared the two..I have Stuart G Oct 2012 #106
He's definitely arrogant, and intrusive. A jerk, even. Kurovski Oct 2012 #120
Krause is doing nothing but displaying both ignorance and arrogance. It may well LibDemAlways Oct 2012 #83
What a moralistic self-appointed asszero. geckosfeet Oct 2012 #94
Joe the Plumber found his running-mate for 2016. n/t Ian David Oct 2012 #95
Bigots have one thing in common HeiressofBickworth Oct 2012 #98
Questions for Krause Andy Stanton Oct 2012 #102
she may just be able to lose that weight, but this dick's butt fugly puss.. frylock Oct 2012 #104
He truly needs to stfu. I dare him to ever write that crap to/about a male reporter LaurenG Oct 2012 #117
Finally found the original email so I can make an informed comment...and BOY HOWDY do I have some! pnwest Oct 2012 #125
Yes!!! dammit. nt LaurenG Oct 2012 #151
really good post. n/t TDale313 Oct 2012 #158
I agree! radicalliberal Oct 2012 #277
Thanks for posting what this jerk actually said. chervilant Oct 2012 #281
For information on dealing with food addiction and compulsive overeating. Stuart G Oct 2012 #136
wow...Her brother is Ron Livingston (Office Space)? Blue_Tires Oct 2012 #140
I love him! Band of Brothers, too obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #234
A Personal Injury Lawyer Without Empathy? Redlo Nosrep Oct 2012 #152
The thing is, she's a successful woman and sometimes men can't deal with that mountain grammy Oct 2012 #153
The thing is....she's a successful woman...and he's an ambulance chaser. nt MADem Oct 2012 #171
Source-Fed responds, a challenge to viewers DavidL Oct 2012 #176
This guy is an ass. Brigid Oct 2012 #181
He is both a jerk and an idiot. When did local news anchors become role models? Tom Ripley Oct 2012 #185
for God sake, I want the anchor and journalist not a plastic barbie full of silicon AlphaCentauri Oct 2012 #186
what an asshole! shireen Oct 2012 #194
And 47of74 stands by his assessment of Krause 47of74 Oct 2012 #199
big thing is PatrynXX Oct 2012 #204
That's a weird thing to want to say, but it's also not really true. Kurovski Oct 2012 #205
Jackass bully. Union Scribe Oct 2012 #206
Off limits and fair-game agentS Oct 2012 #212
I find it disconcerting MrsMatt Oct 2012 #213
I based my comment on his quite possible "supplement" use obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #235
Doesn't matter MrsMatt Oct 2012 #242
I'm not dismayed. It's human nature. charlena2006 Oct 2012 #292
I agree. kstewart33 Oct 2012 #305
As long as women's bodies belong to society, and not to themselves... booksenkatz Oct 2012 #216
Men in the public light are subject to the same scrutiny 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #225
Similar, but not the same, in my view booksenkatz Oct 2012 #258
Misogynist Magleetis Oct 2012 #222
Jennifer Livingston is NOT a public figure obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #233
I looked her up and Jennifer Livingston looks fine, quite attractive ButterflyBlood Oct 2012 #237
I think that's why he did this, if she was unattractive he wouldn't bother suggesting a makeover bettyellen Oct 2012 #307
I certainly wish that I possessed perfection in a large enough amount... LanternWaste Oct 2012 #254
PLEASE read this, ESP if you agree with this guy GirlinContempt Oct 2012 #271
Dude, she's fat, not BLIND TexasBushwhacker Oct 2012 #272
It's the last acceptable prejudice customerserviceguy Oct 2012 #278
I saw Jennifer Livingston today jhasp Oct 2012 #293
So what size should invite criticism by strangers? nt Sivafae Oct 2012 #297
About Chris Christie size. jhasp Oct 2012 #299
I love how people.. liberalmuse Oct 2012 #301
We're not facing a public health epidemic caused by 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #306
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