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18. I'd be more afraid I'd die trying to shoot than to hang on til the car stopped

Reply to Comrade Grumpy (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 03:47 PM

Oct 2012

How did he shoot her with one arm holding on to the vehicle if he was so scared he was going to die?

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Anger Rising in Valeria Alvarado Shooting Death By Border Patrol Agent [View all] Comrade Grumpy Oct 2012 OP

depends on whether witnesses conform to the views of their peer group at the scene nt msongs Oct 2012 #1

So glad this "plain clothes" person was armed...and apparently dangerous. Now tell the five kids. cr8tvlde Oct 2012 #2

So glad you're ready to pass judgement glacierbay Oct 2012 #4

Well, I hate to defend law enforcement... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2012 #36

Not passing judgment...he shot and killed her. Even if she was a "hit and run" cr8tvlde Oct 2012 #50

She knew the man she deliberately hit was a law enforcement officer - See new info in other thread slackmaster Oct 2012 #51

What should he do... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2012 #52

Does anyone have a pic of the scene or the car? /nt Ash_F Oct 2012 #3

Here is one azurnoir Oct 2012 #6

That definitely looks like an impact against the windshield glacierbay Oct 2012 #12

Indeed, that looks like a very hard hit. Ash_F Oct 2012 #26

Witness statements are important glacierbay Oct 2012 #27

Discounting the lady's statement right away is not right either. Ash_F Oct 2012 #28

The reason I'm discounting her eyewitness account glacierbay Oct 2012 #31

I counted 10 with my eyes, for sure, looking at azurnoir's pic. Ash_F Oct 2012 #33

I agree glacierbay Oct 2012 #34

Here's a picture of the car Joanie Baloney Oct 2012 #7

The link in the OP has a video tkmorris Oct 2012 #9

No reason to take a side until all of the facts come out. JRLeft Oct 2012 #5

+1000 glacierbay Oct 2012 #8

True enough, BUT tkmorris Oct 2012 #11

I agree. Interestingly I have talked with 3 Border Patrol Agents (in another Sector) since this grantcart Oct 2012 #24

Just another cop bullshit story.............. SILVER__FOX52 Oct 2012 #10

Just another bullshit slam against cops glacierbay Oct 2012 #13

Don't you know? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #14

To listen to some here glacierbay Oct 2012 #15

That's admirable atreides1 Oct 2012 #19

In my capacity as a LT. glacierbay Oct 2012 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #42

Funny thing about cops getting run over and killing the driver... Comrade Grumpy Oct 2012 #16

"I was just trying to get away" is not a defense to reckless endangerment.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #20

You raise some good questions glacierbay Oct 2012 #22

We know that the woman was not the subject of the warrant and had not connection with the person grantcart Oct 2012 #25

Look at the pic of the windshield... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2012 #38

"Police do make mistakes, I've made my share of them." atreides1 Oct 2012 #17

Yes glacierbay Oct 2012 #23

Welcome to DU. bemildred Oct 2012 #47

Thank you glacierbay Oct 2012 #48

I'd be more afraid I'd die trying to shoot than to hang on til the car stopped SaveAmerica Oct 2012 #18

Supposedly he stood up on the hood and shot her. Ashgrey77 Oct 2012 #30

The first question I'd like to see answered is.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #29

Let me guess glacierbay Oct 2012 #32

One Thing for Sure LarryNM Oct 2012 #35

True glacierbay Oct 2012 #40

Forensics Will Not tell what she was thinking or thought was happening LarryNM Oct 2012 #41

It could be a sudden attacks of rage not self defense AlphaCentauri Oct 2012 #37

Yeah, it could have been a completely unrelated accident. randome Oct 2012 #39

Here's an update to the story Joanie Baloney Oct 2012 #43

Thanks for the update Ash_F Oct 2012 #44

If This Info is Correct Then her Actions were Illegal and Wrong LarryNM Oct 2012 #46

My old buddy CVPD chief David Bejarano was on the radio this morning explaining what they know slackmaster Oct 2012 #49

On the one hand, we have more cameras in public places now than ever before. Trillo Oct 2012 #45