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lunasun

(21,646 posts)
74. 5 - 7 shots according to the article
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:21 PM
Sep 2012

Many years ago I had a under cover cop run out between 2 parked cars and I nearly hit him and I was not speeding-the cops were going after some people or person on the other side of the street which since I was driving I was not seeing what was going on but figured it out and got the hell out of there since I did not know what was going to happen next
This guy must of been a little behind the rest since I did not see others crossing the street before getting to the area he sprinted out of or he came out of one of the cars
-but of course -the cop yelled obscenities at me (with young children in the car) when I screeched to a halt cuz it was my fault he ran out on the street from a blind spot in to traffic of course
I am assuming they were cops because he did not look like other people in the area and something was going down on the other side of the street
............from the article
The agent was taken to a hospital with unknown injuries, although witnesses said he appeared to be OK.

Family members identified the woman as Valeria “Monique” Alvarado, a 32-year-old housewife who grew up in Chula Vista and lived in Southcrest. She died at the scene.

She had five children, ranging in ages 3 to 17.

“I love her to the fullest. That’s my heart,” said her husband, Gilbert Alvarado, before choking up.
“.............
Authorities did not release further information, including how the agent was struck.

Chula Vista police said the crash occurred on Moss closer to Broadway, and the car drove west, coming to rest near Oaklawn. A large dent was left in the windshield where the officer had impacted, police said.

Witnesses gave differing versions of how the shooting unfolded, including whether they saw the agent on the car.

Hector Salazar, who lives in the area, said he was standing at his mailbox looking through letters when he heard a man yell, “Stop!”

He looked up and saw a man in civilian clothing on the hood of a two-door car, aiming a gun at the windshield.

The man then started pulling the trigger, shooting about five rounds.

Salazar hit the ground, and moments later saw other plainclothes agents approach the car.

Eduardo Comacho, 22, was walking on Woodlawn Avenue with his friend when they heard about seven shots.

He saw a man in a red shirt, without a badge, holding his gun. He appeared shaken. Other undercover officers joined him, pulling out their badges as they walked.

“The lady was hanging out the door, barely moving,” Comacho said. The agents checked her pulse, and medics who arrived shortly after began CPR on her on the ground. Comacho could see what appeared to be bullet wounds in her chest, shoulder, arm and leg.

“He did not miss,” Comacho said.

the criminals are the border patrol racists graham4anything Sep 2012 #1
accidentally drove into him for several hundred yards? trouble.smith Sep 2012 #2
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #3
yeah, he was in civillian clothes. that changes everything. Send that POS to prison forever. trouble.smith Sep 2012 #4
It could change a lot. JoeyT Sep 2012 #5
Cops are guilty until proven otherwise? glacierbay Sep 2012 #9
and in your world, the blue wall of silence is just a conspiracy theory not the truth graham4anything Sep 2012 #10
What's more plausible? randome Sep 2012 #13
how does killing a driver stop someone riding outside a car from getting hurt? graham4anything Sep 2012 #16
Stopping the car stops the possibility of him being run over. randome Sep 2012 #21
You know nothing about my world and please don't pretend that you do. glacierbay Sep 2012 #17
The problem is, not only do we hear about (only) the bad ones, crim son Oct 2012 #120
Wow. WeekendWarrior Oct 2012 #107
The dead woman's family might wonder why she was given the death penalty sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #124
Of course WeekendWarrior Oct 2012 #139
Yeah, I know. Why wait for the facts when you can make them up on your own? randome Sep 2012 #12
What is really vile to me is his first post in this thread. glacierbay Sep 2012 #15
you have distorted my view(not surprising you would do that) graham4anything Sep 2012 #18
You can deny all you want glacierbay Sep 2012 #19
again you are wrong graham4anything Sep 2012 #20
I stand by my comments glacierbay Sep 2012 #25
I did not post it in the other thread, but in this one it applies. graham4anything Sep 2012 #40
I tend to agree with Graham4anything on one point: There are no good cops Th1onein Sep 2012 #46
The dishonest part -the remake of Reality in your own image- is that there are no good cops. randome Sep 2012 #50
As a practing attorney I've been closely involved COLGATE4 Sep 2012 #56
I thank you sir glacierbay Sep 2012 #61
This broad brush "Fire bad, Cops bad" crap COLGATE4 Sep 2012 #92
BS glacierbay Sep 2012 #62
I think that your characterization of his posts HERE, in this thread, are not true to fact. Th1onein Sep 2012 #82
My characterization of his posts here are quite accurate glacierbay Sep 2012 #83
Hidden posts are not available to read. Th1onein Sep 2012 #88
Hidden posts most certainly are available to read glacierbay Sep 2012 #89
I didn't know that! Thank you! Th1onein Sep 2012 #91
no good cops? what idiocy. grantcart Sep 2012 #69
Odd that line of reasoning LanternWaste Oct 2012 #102
Thanks for your service and I would simply advise to ignore anyone who paints LEOs as racist. grantcart Sep 2012 #68
I plan to just ignore him from now on glacierbay Sep 2012 #73
Whoa...what....? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #94
Here's one. glacierbay Sep 2012 #95
Did the cop wait for facts? sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #125
Um, waiting for facts is always preferable. randome Oct 2012 #126
And according to eye witnesses she was not to blame. Nor was the agent ever on the sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #130
You might want to revise your statement glacierbay Oct 2012 #136
See my reply below. It turns out that the woman was on probation and was fleeing the scene grantcart Oct 2012 #113
I saw that glacierbay Oct 2012 #115
but. . .but. . .but they're brown and they speak some funny not-English language Suji to Seoul Sep 2012 #6
Sounds like the woman had higher priorities than Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #29
Is that instant path to citizenship open ended? LIke, does everyone have to come before 2013? snooper2 Sep 2012 #38
since Columbus said he discovered America, all but native Americans came here as foreigners graham4anything Sep 2012 #39
Hate to break it to you but native Americans came here from somewhere else Missycim Oct 2012 #99
If she had chosen to stop the car she would be alive. pennylane100 Sep 2012 #70
That depends on how the person got onto the hood jberryhill Sep 2012 #80
See my reply 86. alp227 Sep 2012 #87
I don't much care for law enforcement... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #78
Deleted because I caused some butthurt due to some people not being able to read Shitty Mitty Sep 2012 #7
What does "Alvarado" tell you? SecularMotion Sep 2012 #23
Really? Shitty Mitty Oct 2012 #97
No, you should explain yourself. Your comment is racist and bigoted on it's own SecularMotion Oct 2012 #98
I see. Beacool Oct 2012 #109
FYI, more than half of the BP agents in the San Diego area have Hispanic surnames slackmaster Oct 2012 #110
That's a vile racist comment glacierbay Oct 2012 #116
I mean seriously, some people can't fucking read Shitty Mitty Oct 2012 #118
Dude glacierbay Oct 2012 #123
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Oct 2012 #122
How very bizarre! Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #8
Maybe he was afraid he was about to die. randome Sep 2012 #11
Seems to me Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #59
My previous post was not meant to disparage you. randome Sep 2012 #63
And I shall apologize for pouncing...;-) Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #65
Yes, any time a pedestrian in plain clothes looks at me, I aim right at him and hit the gas slackmaster Sep 2012 #24
Is that what happened? Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #60
More about this from the local newspaper 4lbs Sep 2012 #14
Wow, I think the the BP has some real explaining to do. Live and Learn Sep 2012 #58
5 - 7 shots according to the article lunasun Sep 2012 #74
The BP agent used deadly force against a violent attack with a deadly weapon slackmaster Sep 2012 #22
Really? kirby Sep 2012 #26
"...rode on the hood of her car after she ran into him, authorities and family members said." slackmaster Sep 2012 #27
Eyewitnesses say the BP agent wasn't on the car. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #31
And other eyewitness' say he was on the hood of the car glacierbay Sep 2012 #32
Schrödinger's BP Agent? slackmaster Sep 2012 #33
Not enough information yet. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #34
I agree glacierbay Sep 2012 #36
you and me both TorchTheWitch Sep 2012 #47
You ought to try working at a 7-11. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #53
Have you ever worn a gun? JoeyT Sep 2012 #44
"There doesn't seem to be any dispute about how he ended up on the hood of the car. " kirby Sep 2012 #52
How did he get onto the hood of the car? jberryhill Sep 2012 #81
Either she drove the car into him, or perhaps there is another explanation... slackmaster Sep 2012 #90
I'm thinking if he was trying to stop her... jberryhill Sep 2012 #93
Hmmm deathrind Sep 2012 #28
If he had the gun drawn, I can understand the woman trying to mow him down slackmaster Sep 2012 #30
This story smells funny. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #35
I've got a better idea. glacierbay Sep 2012 #37
Of course. But that doesn't mean we shut up in the mean time. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #42
yup. but the cop spokesmen above needs to spin all cops as being perfect graham4anything Sep 2012 #48
You need to stop. glacierbay Sep 2012 #64
"the cop spokesmen above needs to spin all cops as being perfect" PavePusher Sep 2012 #71
The latter does make more sense. valerief Sep 2012 #43
Further, factor in the similarity to cartel roadblocks in this case Strelnikov_ Sep 2012 #67
Someone got paid to write that headline? Matariki Sep 2012 #41
Bwahahaha! So right. valerief Sep 2012 #45
Been that way ever since the anti-gay uber-right-winger Tea-partier Doug Manchester bought it. MindPilot Sep 2012 #57
I have to agree. It was already pretty bad under the previous owner. slackmaster Oct 2012 #101
Maybe she souldn't find the brake pedal. DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #49
I'm sure her family will sue for millions Gman Sep 2012 #51
...and will get nothing regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #55
Well, the article was about the Border Patrol and not the police Gman Sep 2012 #84
Which makes about 3/4 of the posts in this thread irrelevant. randome Sep 2012 #85
They're all cops. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2012 #96
He committed murder. warrior1 Sep 2012 #54
And you know this how? glacierbay Sep 2012 #66
What is so hard about holding back the opinions pennylane100 Sep 2012 #72
False premise. Occulus Sep 2012 #75
Actually your's is the real false premise. pennylane100 Sep 2012 #76
I remember watching Robert Blake wrestle cars on TV in Baretta NBachers Sep 2012 #77
Photo of the incident... Serve The Servants Sep 2012 #79
The way the AP reported this story (or how the Wash. Post edited the AP copy) leaves a lot of holes. alp227 Sep 2012 #86
UPDATE Wednesday, 10/3 - Chula Vista Police say woman tried to flee slackmaster Oct 2012 #100
That puts a whole new twist on the story, glacierbay Oct 2012 #104
yup, she was clearly defending herself from a gang of crazed drug warriors. uncle ray Oct 2012 #108
Interesting. I wonder if those undercovers identified themselves as cops. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2012 #105
CVPD Chief David Bejarano just spoke. He said badges were displayed. DETAILS ADDED. slackmaster Oct 2012 #106
And the article goes on to say that she was in the apartment and was fleeing. grantcart Oct 2012 #112
there's a whole lot i'm not getting. Sivafae Oct 2012 #119
I also did not know that BP agents serve warrants. grantcart Oct 2012 #127
Sounds reasonable. JVS Oct 2012 #103
Sad story, but there are so many unanswered questions. Beacool Oct 2012 #111
We're all sorry for that. randome Oct 2012 #114
A lot of questions are unanswered and some of the answered ones are suspect. Gormy Cuss Oct 2012 #128
The biggest question in my mind is this - What was a mother of five who was on probation... slackmaster Oct 2012 #129
Reasonable explanation: gave a ride to a friend or relative (one of the others in the apartment) Gormy Cuss Oct 2012 #132
That's possible, but if her reasons for being there were innocent then why did she panic? slackmaster Oct 2012 #133
Even if she hit him intentionally (and some witness accounts suggest otherwise) Gormy Cuss Oct 2012 #134
It could even have been some combination of what you've suggested. randome Oct 2012 #135
Perhaps it was as simple as Sivafae Oct 2012 #137
Literacy Among Headline Writers Hits All Time Low JackRiddler Oct 2012 #117
I'm thinking that if the cop hadn't had his weapon he might have handled this a different way. crim son Oct 2012 #121
Did you read post #106? PavePusher Oct 2012 #131
I'm not disagreeing with you. crim son Oct 2012 #138
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