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In the discussion thread: Border Patrol agent kills woman near San Diego as he rides on hood of car that ran into him [View all]

Response to glacierbay (Reply #25)

Sat Sep 29, 2012, 01:20 PM

graham4anything (9,312 posts)

40. I did not post it in the other thread, but in this one it applies.

all Good cops should agree to get rid of all bad cops and to tear down the fabled blue wall of silence (and don't deny it does not exist.)

I stand by my opinion, you of course have a right to disagree, but not distort my opinion.

(btw-for those that do not know-in NYC at least, police have a couple of days to concoct a story before they need to be questioned on it, and the police conspire with each other to make the best spin out of a story. Very rarely will a police officer speak out against another officer, and once having done so, it marks that officer and puts that officer in danger the next time they are with the "bad" officer. So officers to protect themselves don't tell the truth when questioned it appears.
That is the blue wall of silence and why cops get away with murder.

one would think the good ones want to get rid of the bad ones, but it isn't necessarily true.

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139 replies	Author	Time	Post
Border Patrol agent kills woman near San Diego as he rides on hood of car that ran into him [View all]	Judi Lynn	Sep 2012	OP
the criminals are the border patrol racists	graham4anything	Sep 2012	#1
accidentally drove into him for several hundred yards?	trouble.smith	Sep 2012	#2
This post was hidden by jury decision.	graham4anything	Sep 2012	#3
yeah, he was in civillian clothes. that changes everything. Send that POS to prison forever.	trouble.smith	Sep 2012	#4
It could change a lot.	JoeyT	Sep 2012	#5
Cops are guilty until proven otherwise?	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#9
and in your world, the blue wall of silence is just a conspiracy theory not the truth	graham4anything	Sep 2012	#10
What's more plausible?	randome	Sep 2012	#13
how does killing a driver stop someone riding outside a car from getting hurt?	graham4anything	Sep 2012	#16
Stopping the car stops the possibility of him being run over.	randome	Sep 2012	#21
You know nothing about my world and please don't pretend that you do.	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#17
The problem is, not only do we hear about (only) the bad ones,	crim son	Oct 2012	#120
Wow.	WeekendWarrior	Oct 2012	#107
The dead woman's family might wonder why she was given the death penalty	sabrina 1	Oct 2012	#124
Of course	WeekendWarrior	Oct 2012	#139
Yeah, I know. Why wait for the facts when you can make them up on your own?	randome	Sep 2012	#12
What is really vile to me is his first post in this thread.	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#15
you have distorted my view(not surprising you would do that)	graham4anything	Sep 2012	#18
You can deny all you want	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#19
again you are wrong	graham4anything	Sep 2012	#20
I stand by my comments	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#25
I did not post it in the other thread, but in this one it applies.	graham4anything	Sep 2012	#40
I tend to agree with Graham4anything on one point: There are no good cops	Th1onein	Sep 2012	#46
The dishonest part -the remake of Reality in your own image- is that there are no good cops.	randome	Sep 2012	#50
As a practing attorney I've been closely involved	COLGATE4	Sep 2012	#56
I thank you sir	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#61
This broad brush "Fire bad, Cops bad" crap	COLGATE4	Sep 2012	#92
BS	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#62
I think that your characterization of his posts HERE, in this thread, are not true to fact.	Th1onein	Sep 2012	#82
My characterization of his posts here are quite accurate	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#83
Hidden posts are not available to read.	Th1onein	Sep 2012	#88
Hidden posts most certainly are available to read	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#89
I didn't know that! Thank you!	Th1onein	Sep 2012	#91
no good cops? what idiocy.	grantcart	Sep 2012	#69
Odd that line of reasoning	LanternWaste	Oct 2012	#102
Thanks for your service and I would simply advise to ignore anyone who paints LEOs as racist.	grantcart	Sep 2012	#68
I plan to just ignore him from now on	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#73
Whoa...what....?	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	Sep 2012	#94
Here's one.	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#95
Did the cop wait for facts?	sabrina 1	Oct 2012	#125
Um, waiting for facts is always preferable.	randome	Oct 2012	#126
And according to eye witnesses she was not to blame. Nor was the agent ever on the	sabrina 1	Oct 2012	#130
You might want to revise your statement	glacierbay	Oct 2012	#136
See my reply below. It turns out that the woman was on probation and was fleeing the scene	grantcart	Oct 2012	#113
I saw that	glacierbay	Oct 2012	#115
but. . .but. . .but they're brown and they speak some funny not-English language	Suji to Seoul	Sep 2012	#6
Sounds like the woman had higher priorities than	Eleanors38	Sep 2012	#29
Is that instant path to citizenship open ended? LIke, does everyone have to come before 2013?	snooper2	Sep 2012	#38
since Columbus said he discovered America, all but native Americans came here as foreigners	graham4anything	Sep 2012	#39
Hate to break it to you but native Americans came here from somewhere else	Missycim	Oct 2012	#99
If she had chosen to stop the car she would be alive.	pennylane100	Sep 2012	#70
That depends on how the person got onto the hood	jberryhill	Sep 2012	#80
See my reply 86.	alp227	Sep 2012	#87
I don't much care for law enforcement...	awoke_in_2003	Sep 2012	#78
Deleted because I caused some butthurt due to some people not being able to read	Shitty Mitty	Sep 2012	#7
What does "Alvarado" tell you?	SecularMotion	Sep 2012	#23
Really?	Shitty Mitty	Oct 2012	#97
No, you should explain yourself. Your comment is racist and bigoted on it's own	SecularMotion	Oct 2012	#98
I see.	Beacool	Oct 2012	#109
FYI, more than half of the BP agents in the San Diego area have Hispanic surnames	slackmaster	Oct 2012	#110
That's a vile racist comment	glacierbay	Oct 2012	#116
I mean seriously, some people can't fucking read	Shitty Mitty	Oct 2012	#118
Dude	glacierbay	Oct 2012	#123
Caused some butthurt?	devilgrrl	Oct 2012	#122
How very bizarre!	Sekhmets Daughter	Sep 2012	#8
Maybe he was afraid he was about to die.	randome	Sep 2012	#11
Seems to me	Sekhmets Daughter	Sep 2012	#59
My previous post was not meant to disparage you.	randome	Sep 2012	#63
And I shall apologize for pouncing...;-)	Sekhmets Daughter	Sep 2012	#65
Yes, any time a pedestrian in plain clothes looks at me, I aim right at him and hit the gas	slackmaster	Sep 2012	#24
Is that what happened?	Sekhmets Daughter	Sep 2012	#60
More about this from the local newspaper	4lbs	Sep 2012	#14
Wow, I think the the BP has some real explaining to do.	Live and Learn	Sep 2012	#58
5 - 7 shots according to the article	lunasun	Sep 2012	#74
The BP agent used deadly force against a violent attack with a deadly weapon	slackmaster	Sep 2012	#22
Really?	kirby	Sep 2012	#26
"...rode on the hood of her car after she ran into him, authorities and family members said."	slackmaster	Sep 2012	#27
Eyewitnesses say the BP agent wasn't on the car.	Comrade Grumpy	Sep 2012	#31
And other eyewitness' say he was on the hood of the car	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#32
Schrödinger's BP Agent?	slackmaster	Sep 2012	#33
Not enough information yet.	Comrade Grumpy	Sep 2012	#34
I agree	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#36
you and me both	TorchTheWitch	Sep 2012	#47
You ought to try working at a 7-11.	Comrade Grumpy	Sep 2012	#53
Have you ever worn a gun?	JoeyT	Sep 2012	#44
"There doesn't seem to be any dispute about how he ended up on the hood of the car. "	kirby	Sep 2012	#52
How did he get onto the hood of the car?	jberryhill	Sep 2012	#81
Either she drove the car into him, or perhaps there is another explanation...	slackmaster	Sep 2012	#90
I'm thinking if he was trying to stop her...	jberryhill	Sep 2012	#93
Hmmm	deathrind	Sep 2012	#28
If he had the gun drawn, I can understand the woman trying to mow him down	slackmaster	Sep 2012	#30
This story smells funny.	Comrade Grumpy	Sep 2012	#35
I've got a better idea.	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#37
Of course. But that doesn't mean we shut up in the mean time.	Comrade Grumpy	Sep 2012	#42
yup. but the cop spokesmen above needs to spin all cops as being perfect	graham4anything	Sep 2012	#48
You need to stop.	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#64
"the cop spokesmen above needs to spin all cops as being perfect"	PavePusher	Sep 2012	#71
The latter does make more sense.	valerief	Sep 2012	#43
Further, factor in the similarity to cartel roadblocks in this case	Strelnikov_	Sep 2012	#67
Someone got paid to write that headline?	Matariki	Sep 2012	#41
Bwahahaha! So right.	valerief	Sep 2012	#45
Been that way ever since the anti-gay uber-right-winger Tea-partier Doug Manchester bought it.	MindPilot	Sep 2012	#57
I have to agree. It was already pretty bad under the previous owner.	slackmaster	Oct 2012	#101
Maybe she souldn't find the brake pedal.	DollarBillHines	Sep 2012	#49
I'm sure her family will sue for millions	Gman	Sep 2012	#51
...and will get nothing	regnaD kciN	Sep 2012	#55
Well, the article was about the Border Patrol and not the police	Gman	Sep 2012	#84
Which makes about 3/4 of the posts in this thread irrelevant.	randome	Sep 2012	#85
They're all cops.	Comrade Grumpy	Oct 2012	#96
He committed murder.	warrior1	Sep 2012	#54
And you know this how?	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#66
What is so hard about holding back the opinions	pennylane100	Sep 2012	#72
False premise.	Occulus	Sep 2012	#75
Actually your's is the real false premise.	pennylane100	Sep 2012	#76
I remember watching Robert Blake wrestle cars on TV in Baretta	NBachers	Sep 2012	#77
Photo of the incident...	Serve The Servants	Sep 2012	#79
The way the AP reported this story (or how the Wash. Post edited the AP copy) leaves a lot of holes.	alp227	Sep 2012	#86
UPDATE Wednesday, 10/3 - Chula Vista Police say woman tried to flee	slackmaster	Oct 2012	#100
That puts a whole new twist on the story,	glacierbay	Oct 2012	#104
yup, she was clearly defending herself from a gang of crazed drug warriors.	uncle ray	Oct 2012	#108
Interesting. I wonder if those undercovers identified themselves as cops.	Comrade Grumpy	Oct 2012	#105
CVPD Chief David Bejarano just spoke. He said badges were displayed. DETAILS ADDED.	slackmaster	Oct 2012	#106
And the article goes on to say that she was in the apartment and was fleeing.	grantcart	Oct 2012	#112
there's a whole lot i'm not getting.	Sivafae	Oct 2012	#119
I also did not know that BP agents serve warrants.	grantcart	Oct 2012	#127
Sounds reasonable.	JVS	Oct 2012	#103
Sad story, but there are so many unanswered questions.	Beacool	Oct 2012	#111
We're all sorry for that.	randome	Oct 2012	#114
A lot of questions are unanswered and some of the answered ones are suspect.	Gormy Cuss	Oct 2012	#128
The biggest question in my mind is this - What was a mother of five who was on probation...	slackmaster	Oct 2012	#129
Reasonable explanation: gave a ride to a friend or relative (one of the others in the apartment)	Gormy Cuss	Oct 2012	#132
That's possible, but if her reasons for being there were innocent then why did she panic?	slackmaster	Oct 2012	#133
Even if she hit him intentionally (and some witness accounts suggest otherwise)	Gormy Cuss	Oct 2012	#134
It could even have been some combination of what you've suggested.	randome	Oct 2012	#135
Perhaps it was as simple as	Sivafae	Oct 2012	#137
Literacy Among Headline Writers Hits All Time Low	JackRiddler	Oct 2012	#117
I'm thinking that if the cop hadn't had his weapon he might have handled this a different way.	crim son	Oct 2012	#121
Did you read post #106?	PavePusher	Oct 2012	#131
I'm not disagreeing with you.	crim son	Oct 2012	#138

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