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Bizarre. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #1
Guns' inevitable targets are family members. nt onehandle Sep 2012 #2
No, that's not true. Lasher Sep 2012 #112
Because every family contains at least one son 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #116
inevitable doesn't mean what you think it means. aikoaiko Sep 2012 #225
The 'multiple' gungeoneers who are 'suddenly' responding to this post are wasting their time. onehandle Sep 2012 #241
But they LIVE for this. valerief Sep 2012 #242
Clearly. nt onehandle Sep 2012 #244
Kills son in self defense? Waltons_Mtn Sep 2012 #3
That's what I was wondering. It didn't make sense. Chemisse Sep 2012 #41
Oops. Shadowflash Sep 2012 #4
Smells like Shakespeare to me, that drama. nt MADem Sep 2012 #5
Pretty good disguise. n/t bluedigger Sep 2012 #6
Thank god the man was armed, or this could have ended in tragedy Orrex Sep 2012 #7
precisely. n/t Soylent Brice Sep 2012 #20
Yep! AlbertCat Sep 2012 #21
Have you been living under a rock Dokkie Sep 2012 #190
+1 peacebird Sep 2012 #54
that really sucks... a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #8
Thank you. Best reply so far. eom uppityperson Sep 2012 #23
You're welcome, a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #25
Wow, someone cares about a father accidentally killing his own son ChillZilla Sep 2012 #76
Accidentally killing his own son? This was no accident. OregonBlue Sep 2012 #86
How do you know that? obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #92
He pointed it at him and shot. savalez Sep 2012 #122
Link to where he meant to kill his son? obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #164
Link to where he dropped the gun and it accidentally went off. savalez Oct 2012 #259
I guess I'm just weird that way. n/t a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #105
Yeah Canuckistanian Sep 2012 #202
exactly a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #208
Wouldn't it be something if he was peeping in on her getting undressed? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #9
With a ski mask? Nt geek tragedy Sep 2012 #12
So he couldn't be recognized. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #19
My sympathies extend to the mother of this child. The father should get life in prison. Happyhippychick Sep 2012 #10
For what crime? The kid burglarized the house of a woman and was armed. nt geek tragedy Sep 2012 #11
Is he a cop? No. This vigilante shit is not good. And we don't know the kid was armed. Happyhippychick Sep 2012 #18
Until some laws are changed you should have the right to oldbanjo Sep 2012 #38
He should be able to protect himself but it wasn't HIS house. It was the neighbor. Happyhippychick Sep 2012 #45
Didn't it say that bw3517 Sep 2012 #48
I''m sure the man who just killed his son doesn't believe this any longer. Happyhippychick Sep 2012 #55
I read in another article that the neighbor was the dad's sister. n/t deutsey Sep 2012 #52
It was his sister's home obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #60
The neighbor is his sister. LisaL Sep 2012 #120
The kid burglarized the house AlbertCat Sep 2012 #22
i dont know this town but were i live it can take the popo forever to arrive loli phabay Sep 2012 #26
Because he's the closest person available. geek tragedy Sep 2012 #34
Two reasons obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #57
Sounds like victim blaming 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #93
Sounds like victim blaming AlbertCat Sep 2012 #193
I've found the sarcasm tag is needed hughee99 Sep 2012 #250
The neighbor is his sister, who lives alone obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #95
I tell my neighbours if something's wrong at night, call the police and then call me. Prometheus Bound Sep 2012 #123
Sympathies should go out to everyone. A father who killed a prowler who just happened to be his own madinmaryland Sep 2012 #14
Yes, this was a tragedy but it was an avoidable tragedy. OregonBlue Sep 2012 #88
Yes. The son could have not tried to break in to that woman's house 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #94
"He won't do that again" Occulus Sep 2012 #113
I don't have a lot of sympathy for idiots who get killed while breaking and entering 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #115
+1 Shitty Mitty Sep 2012 #224
The mother should have been keeping an eye on her son. marshall Sep 2012 #140
I haven't seen anything to indicate he actually has a mother to monitor his behavior. LisaL Sep 2012 #194
Horrible story. cheapdate Sep 2012 #13
You're right... TheCowsCameHome Sep 2012 #15
That's for damn sure. High percentage of Leadership loved by Tbaggers. Hoyt Sep 2012 #28
why didn't she call the police?? bluemarkers Sep 2012 #16
Neighbor would get there much faster. duh. nt geek tragedy Sep 2012 #35
doesn't make sense duh bluemarkers Sep 2012 #46
How exactly do you act bw3517 Sep 2012 #49
She was the sister of the shooter, the aunt of the boy shot jberryhill Sep 2012 #152
I am going to note this in the gun thread I am currently arguing against graham4anything Sep 2012 #17
I wonder if this man will give up his guns now? Scairp Sep 2012 #24
This is only about five miles from me. The woman is his aunt... MANative Sep 2012 #27
like an epic tragedy renate Sep 2012 #32
That story is incredibly sad GOTV Sep 2012 #43
Very tragic. Jennicut Sep 2012 #33
Yes, that's the place. MANative Sep 2012 #50
WTF? Megahurtz Sep 2012 #29
"Pansies"? obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #58
Should I Have Said Coward Instead? Megahurtz Sep 2012 #125
Woudln't that be better than using a gay slur? obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #165
Real men engage in fist fights with strangers at night? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #96
A Real Man Approach.... Megahurtz Sep 2012 #124
So someone tries to stab you and you . . . duck? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #129
And So Megahurtz Sep 2012 #135
It was the father's sister's house obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #169
In the circumstances described in the article? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #229
It appears you don't don't know anything about the mechanics or legalities or morality.... PavePusher Oct 2012 #266
I want to know how long between the call & the shooting. Also, what else occurred? Lights turned on? patrice Sep 2012 #130
Yes Megahurtz Sep 2012 #136
The neighbor is her brother obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #170
I guess not everyone is a kung-fu expert like you. Union Scribe Oct 2012 #260
Unreal. Megahurtz Sep 2012 #30
Way to take the sympathetic approach. bw3517 Sep 2012 #51
I Really Don't Have Much Sympathy Megahurtz Sep 2012 #126
The dead son who was apparently attempting to commit a crime in the middle of the night... PavePusher Sep 2012 #209
Darwin's law at work here Jessy169 Sep 2012 #31
Another article says that the woman next door was the man's sister and kas125 Sep 2012 #36
I'm fairly heartless here. Guy grabs gun and shoots first, without a warning or questioning? dorksied Sep 2012 #37
Yes. We need to know more about what happened in the confrontation.How long from encounter to death? patrice Sep 2012 #133
statistically iamthebandfanman Sep 2012 #39
statistically.. iamthebandfanman Sep 2012 #39
statistically.. PavePusher Sep 2012 #210
Sympathies to the victims mother.....she lost a son and has a complete moron for a husband AnOhioan Sep 2012 #42
Lovely oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #44
Why the mask? Was he planning on assaulting the woman, and did not want to be identified? Tom Ripley Sep 2012 #47
And, the woman was his aunt, which makes it even creepier obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #59
He would still be innocent until proven guilty. You don't execute people for what they MIGHT do. patrice Sep 2012 #138
So, the father should have allowed himself to be stabbed and attacked obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #221
Thank god that gun was lying around!!! Otherwise, he wouldn't have his valerief Sep 2012 #53
And, it appears he would also have his throat cut obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #222
Somethings not right with the fathers story... Javaman Sep 2012 #56
Why was the kid outside his aunt's house at 1 am trying to break in? obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #61
My thought was the kid might be a druggie and trying to rob her. nt raccoon Sep 2012 #90
I concur. If the story is accurate (and that's a big if) it sounds just like addict behavior. slackmaster Sep 2012 #98
Still doesn't justify summary execution. There has to be authentic danger to life or health. nt patrice Sep 2012 #139
Shooting to stop a violent attacker is not "summary execution" slackmaster Sep 2012 #143
I will take that as an assent, then, that we should shoot people for what they MIGHT do, BEFORE patrice Sep 2012 #147
It really does depend on whether someone is rushing at you with an apparent weapon FiveGoodMen Sep 2012 #151
Yes, like the Trayvon Martin case, how far away was this threat? Was he rushing? Even if he was patrice Sep 2012 #160
Yeah, I'm not taking a side on this case. I don't know enough of what really happened. FiveGoodMen Sep 2012 #161
I'm not either, unlike some in this thread, NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION. And yet we are to believe patrice Sep 2012 #163
We don't have any hard information other than what's in the news story slackmaster Sep 2012 #168
I'm sure that will all come out in George Zimmerman's trial slackmaster Sep 2012 #167
You never, ever fire a warning shot obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #174
Funny how people who preach personal responsibility are so slavish about rules WHEN IT SERVES patrice Sep 2012 #185
??? obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #189
Warning shots? Put down the Hollywood. Clames Sep 2012 #238
When someone comes at you with a deadly weapon... jberryhill Sep 2012 #154
That is an intentional mischaracterization. Not all threats are to kill & you don't think anyonehas patrice Sep 2012 #162
Not in that situation, no jberryhill Sep 2012 #184
I don't believe "should" is accurate. It's legally justifiable to shoot people if you REASONABLY... slackmaster Sep 2012 #166
How much damage do you insist I take before allowing me the possiblity of being at severe risk? PavePusher Sep 2012 #211
Kid coulda been high. Brickbat Sep 2012 #63
Just so weird obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #64
I live out in the woods too, and you're right, when you need someone there NOW, it can take the Brickbat Sep 2012 #65
I live in a suburb of a major city, and if the police get here in 20 minutes you're lucky slackmaster Sep 2012 #67
Exactly obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #68
I have been high and dressed in black many times, but never while also wearing a ski mask and... Tom Ripley Sep 2012 #197
Exactlamente bongbong Sep 2012 #80
It appears that the young man made some very poor choices slackmaster Sep 2012 #62
Either that, or you can fertilize the lawn with the father's official story... Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #69
Since we don't know what really happened brentspeak Sep 2012 #70
Given that no arrests have been made and no charges filed slackmaster Sep 2012 #73
Funny stuff bongbong Sep 2012 #81
And of course we also have the typical knee-jerk reactions from cop haters and gun haters... slackmaster Sep 2012 #84
More funnies bongbong Sep 2012 #87
The truth will come out sooner or later slackmaster Sep 2012 #89
Dopes bongbong Sep 2012 #91
That's what I was just going to say. "Lawn order is all fucked up in this country. Arm yourselves!" patrice Sep 2012 #144
Yep bongbong Sep 2012 #173
If it's lawn order you want, the appropriate weapon would be a mower slackmaster Oct 2012 #269
he, he, old joke from the '60s, but I'm gonna have to go look "sward" up, you got patrice Oct 2012 #270
Do you think it's more likely the father just murdered his son for no reason 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #97
That makes more sense than a dope-head teenager making stupid decisons and getting himself killed slackmaster Sep 2012 #101
You're thinking too small 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #107
The father adopted Tyler when Tyler was in his fifth grade class obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #66
Odd, I don't see the gungeon crowd here... primavera Sep 2012 #71
That's because the only people who tout the glories of guns are people who don't like guns slackmaster Sep 2012 #72
They certainly had me fooled primavera Sep 2012 #74
That's because you read selectively, and have a strong bias against people who own and use guns slackmaster Sep 2012 #75
It's certainly possible primavera Sep 2012 #77
I have made several concrete suggestions for that dozens of times on DU, and they rarely get noticed slackmaster Sep 2012 #82
I know you have, slackmaster primavera Sep 2012 #103
Thank you. I ALWAYS appreciate a courteous, rational discussion with people even if we disagree. slackmaster Sep 2012 #104
+1 & What about SYG? which may be relevant in this case . . . nt patrice Sep 2012 #146
Those are all very good suggestions. But the gun issue, like this case, is a hot-button issue. freshwest Sep 2012 #240
Great job bongbong Sep 2012 #83
As noted upthread, I am a local where this happened... MANative Sep 2012 #78
Thanks for the info oberliner Sep 2012 #79
Solutions bongbong Sep 2012 #85
Just call the cops! 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #118
Who are you responding to? bongbong Sep 2012 #121
Ah the old pretend they said cops are worthless strawman 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #127
LOL bongbong Sep 2012 #141
I have a fire extinguisher and smoke detectors in my house 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #231
LOL bongbong Oct 2012 #261
Keep displaying that winning wit 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #262
More laughs bongbong Oct 2012 #263
K, but someone is carrying a gun, ergo, there is a probability that something COULD happen that the patrice Sep 2012 #149
Because it takes time to call the cops 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #232
"When you have only seconds, the police are minutes away." obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #236
Thank you so much for the info -- please do keep us updated obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #99
The fact that she didn't call 911 could also mean she didn't think it that serious. If she had patrice Sep 2012 #148
She did call 911 -- I have no idea why so many posters say she didn't obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #223
Why did she call the neighbor instead of calling the police? Fearless Sep 2012 #100
Obviously she and the police are all part of a conspiracy to murder that poor child slackmaster Sep 2012 #102
In holding to emotional ties to the gun issue you missed my point entirely. Fearless Sep 2012 #108
Do you think the police could have gotten to her house more quickly than her next-door neighbor? slackmaster Sep 2012 #109
They would have had better firearm usage, that much is clear. Fearless Sep 2012 #110
You believe the police would NOT have shot a masked person lunging at them while clutching... slackmaster Sep 2012 #111
A) that is very often not the case 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #117
In this case it couldn't have ended worse. Fearless Sep 2012 #182
Sure it could have 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #233
It isn't necessarily about the cops using firearms, but also about their LEGAL capacity to deal patrice Sep 2012 #150
Why do you believe she didn't call the cops? jberryhill Sep 2012 #157
True. When the police call was made is a question. That information isn't in the story. nt patrice Sep 2012 #159
The cops were called obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #177
People who aren't cops have a legal right to defend themselves in a dangerous situation slackmaster Sep 2012 #171
No one's disputing that. The question is: do they have a personal responsibility to assess how patrice Sep 2012 #180
Sometimes you don't have a lot of time to make that assessment slackmaster Sep 2012 #187
I disagree with you there obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #176
Just like in NYC, amirite? n/t PavePusher Sep 2012 #212
Read my post above - #78 MANative Sep 2012 #106
Trooper was probably home and asleep One_Life_To_Give Sep 2012 #137
The neighbor is her brother obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #175
This is a very sad story. nt yeswecanandwedid Sep 2012 #114
Yes obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #179
I don't believe the kid really attacked his father. Ash_F Sep 2012 #119
why not shoot attackers in the leg or something. why shoot to kill? Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 #128
I don't know how easy that is but I bet the dad wishes he didn't shoot at all now. /nt Ash_F Sep 2012 #131
Every firearm class I've taken has stressed aiming for center of mass, but to shoot only... slackmaster Sep 2012 #142
+++1 Even if you miss, you express serious intent that will mean something significant to yourtarget patrice Sep 2012 #153
Another thing to consider is that shooting someone in the leg could still quickly kill them. Ash_F Sep 2012 #158
You never shoot to wound obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #181
No, you do NOT "shoot to kill", you shoot to stop the threat. PavePusher Sep 2012 #257
My CCW instructor said if you pull your gun, you are committing to killing obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #258
If you walk into a courtroom with that, the prosecution will be very happy with you. PavePusher Oct 2012 #265
Why do you believe he would have known it was his father? TorchTheWitch Sep 2012 #216
There are plenty of cases where someone defended themselves with a gun without shooting. Ash_F Sep 2012 #245
the weapon was a knife that was still in the kid's hand when police arrived TorchTheWitch Sep 2012 #248
What I Want to Know is...... Megahurtz Sep 2012 #132
I tentatively believe it, because I have no other source of hard information about the event slackmaster Sep 2012 #145
It's at least as possible that he could have shot his sister, isn't it? Even if one just has to patrice Sep 2012 #156
Everyone who owns a gun should understand the basic rules of safe gun handling slackmaster Sep 2012 #188
Ugh. I was really hoping this wasn't true when I saw the title. . . BigDemVoter Sep 2012 #134
Local news update... MANative Sep 2012 #155
Thanks for the update -- which makes me very sad obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #183
I saw this on WVIT tonight. Jennicut Sep 2012 #191
I raed there had been a robbery and rape in the area the day before obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #172
I don't think they said what the nature of the assault was. Jennicut Sep 2012 #192
Glad to know the comment wasn't just made up crazy stuff obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #206
one of many reasons i would not want a Gun JI7 Sep 2012 #178
Law enforcement was called obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #186
What was this shiny weapon, a screwdriver, putty knife, doc03 Sep 2012 #195
Apparently it was a knife. LisaL Sep 2012 #198
I think I read all the posts on this and I didn't doc03 Sep 2012 #199
Well I read other articles not just what on the thread. LisaL Sep 2012 #200
Masked teen killed by his father had a knife, Connecticut police say oberliner Sep 2012 #201
Then you didn;t read all teh posts, because it was a knife obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #204
The father knew it was someone's son before he fired. slampoet Sep 2012 #196
Adolf Hitler was someone's son, too slackmaster Sep 2012 #203
And the woman he knew he was trying to protect was his sister obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #205
Very sad Catherine Vincent Sep 2012 #207
That's some sick, vile crap. PavePusher Sep 2012 #213
Joe Horn Got Plenty Of Support From DU Gun Enthusiasts. Paladin Sep 2012 #226
What crime was Joe Horn charged with? slackmaster Sep 2012 #227
And Your Point Is.....? (nt) Paladin Sep 2012 #228
He did nothing wrong, so there is nothing wrong with "supporting" him slackmaster Sep 2012 #235
That's Just Sad, Slack. (nt) Paladin Sep 2012 #239
He killed two guys who were no threat to him. And got away with it. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #246
What he did is legal in Texas. The two thieves he killed knew they were risking their lives. slackmaster Sep 2012 #253
Except the situations aren't remotely the same, are they? obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #218
I am appalled at all the people who are implying that the son deserved it Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #214
Aye if he was a decent father Riftaxe Sep 2012 #215
Woudl it have been better for the father to have been stabbed to death? obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #220
Not one reply in this entire thread suggests that burglary calls for summary execution slackmaster Sep 2012 #217
Yeah, But You Fixed That With Your Reply #253. Paladin Oct 2012 #264
There had been a breakin and rape the night before, in the same area obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #219
You seem to be trying to turn back-flips to avoid.... PavePusher Sep 2012 #243
I stand by my statement that Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #247
A person with a knife attacked a man, who then defended himself with a firearm. PavePusher Sep 2012 #249
According to the Hartford Courant article: "Opened fire...shot multiple times" Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #251
What is your point? PavePusher Sep 2012 #252
Because if you're threatened you don't try to avoid it first-- Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #255
I certainly don't feel "righteous", as this was an utter tragedy. PavePusher Sep 2012 #256
P.S. Someone attacking another person with a knife is NOT a "possible threat".... PavePusher Oct 2012 #267
It's Simple I place the knife in his hand. jimdeed Oct 2012 #272
New article from Hartford Courant with some good info obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #230
Ugh, that's just awful. American Beauty redux. nt Zorra Sep 2012 #234
"When you have only seconds, the police are minutes away." obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #237
There's more to this story, I'll bet. Matariki Sep 2012 #254
I'm with you. I have no comment until the entire story is exposed. truthisfreedom Oct 2012 #271
What chance are you willing to take... ileus Oct 2012 #268
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