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In reply to the discussion: Assange to UN: 'It is time for the US to cease its persecution of WikiLeaks' [View all]struggle4progress
(118,270 posts)18. Scoop has a link to pdf of the actual FOIA release: it doesn't seem to show what Dorling claims:
http://img.scoop.co.nz/media/pdfs/1209/AssangeWikiLeaksEnemyUSAFFOI.pdf
It seems to be some records from a (now-closed) 2011 investigation into a military person stationed in the UK
It seems to be some records from a (now-closed) 2011 investigation into a military person stationed in the UK
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Assange to UN: 'It is time for the US to cease its persecution of WikiLeaks' [View all]
CHIMO
Sep 2012
OP
Translation: "I really really need to distract everybody from those Swedish allegations!"
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#3
Lol, you mean the allegations that have fallen apart, as we all predicted they would.
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#7
I thought this point had been made clear here multiple times already. In fact I believe
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#35
Wrong! Because he already HAS BEEN ARRESTED. That was a lie. It is still a lie.
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#43
Still refusing to accept facts. He took advantage of the law, and rightly so, especially
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#53
The Swedish courts said that there was valid cause to arrest Assange without an interview.
hack89
Sep 2012
#54
Why has the Swedish Prosecutor refused to interview Assange when there never was
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#63
Because he refused to recognize her authority to take him into physical custody.
hack89
Sep 2012
#64
Why did the prosecutor refuse to speak to Assange who has been available both in
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#67
Why has she not filed a case against Assange? You are now contradicting yourself
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#71
She has what she needs to arrest him. Once in Swedish custody he will be interviewed and indicted.
hack89
Sep 2012
#74
No, it is YOU have avoided the real question here. The Swedish Prosecutor, as you now
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#57
Um, that is not how the law works. On the whims of a prosecutor. You are now completly
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#75
The entire Swedish legal system has not been in charge of this case, because NO
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#84
Except for the Swedish appeals court that issued the domestic arrest warrant for rape you mean?
hack89
Sep 2012
#88
But since you said that Assange would have never surrendered to Swedish authorities
hack89
Sep 2012
#89
'If' 'if', the law is not based on 'what ifs'. The Swedish Prosecutor failed to file charges
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#92
Is it her fault that he jumped bail in the UK and is now a fugitive from justice?
hack89
Sep 2012
#94
Again, the Swedish Prosecutor refused to do her job when this case was handed to her.
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#96
Why did the Swedish Prosecutor not speak to Assange while he was in Sweden for
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#100
Read the High Court's transcript - the Swedish legal witnesses explain it better than me. nt
hack89
Sep 2012
#102
Assange will find out how credible she is when that cell door shuts behind him. nt
hack89
Sep 2012
#103
Still can't answer the question. Why did she fail to lock that cell door when she
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#105
He has been arrested. What is it that you do not get about this case, or rather, that you
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#110
I don't ignore testimony from Swedish legal experts. I have read the opinions of this
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#120
My arguments have never been presented in court. Motions were presented, no case
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#80
All of those issues were addressed by the British High Court. It is time you read the transcript. nt
hack89
Sep 2012
#83
The British High Court did NOT rule on this case. What are you talking about?
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#85
Every argument you have made about the interview and the prosecutor doing her job
hack89
Sep 2012
#91
Lol, no, it was the anti-Wikileaks contingency who were fixated on the interview. Now
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#95
Except they were not debunked. What I said has been confirmed by Swedish legal experts
hack89
Sep 2012
#97
So 'they' convinced Assange to fight extradition, and then, appeal for two years, all because 'they'
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#150
Thank you for you posts. I think her failure to conduct this case in a professional manner
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#178
Fugitives don't get to dictate to prosecutors. That is how the world really works.
hack89
Sep 2012
#61
He was never a fugitive, he was in Sweden asking to speak to her, then in London
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#77
He did not flee Sweden, he was told by the Prosecutor on Sept 15 that he was free to
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#82
And none of that has anything to do with Assange who was told by the prosecutor,
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#112
As I said, signs someone has lost the debate, when they resort to non-facts,
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#133
Because the Court does not investigate a crime, they accept the documents presented
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#44
They expected her to do her job, she did not. But you still have not explained
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#113
Resorting to 'Swedish Experts' some of whom were brought there by the Prosecution
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#122
Lol, have you run out of excuses? The prosecutor ran out of options two years ago. She was out
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#138
And you still refuse to even try to answer the question as to why a Prosecutor
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#163
Assange must think there's a credible Swedish case against him, or he wouldn't have jumped bail
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#15
Assange, of course, didn't argue that "US-conspiracy-against-me" in UK court, because
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#23
So, why should we take any Wikileaks-related remarks in the Stratfor emails seriously?
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#34
I provided several links and cogent argument: you retort with personal remarks
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#129
I think you should read or watch or something so that your posts come from an informed place
xiamiam
Sep 2012
#25
Your author, "Israel Shamir", is a known anti-Semite and holocaust denier, who is a close friend
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#131
How does Assange's boinking of a Swedish woman and her dubious accusation of rape
wtmusic
Sep 2012
#135
Lol, you are funny. Speaking of 'jumping'. Maybe you can explain what someone else
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#141
And once again you jumped right over the question. Not surprising, it was what I expected.
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#147
It would be nice to see the actual declassified documents, rather than Dorling's interpretation
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#16
Scoop has a link to pdf of the actual FOIA release: it doesn't seem to show what Dorling claims:
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#18
The military will, no doubt, exercise some diligence to ensure that no personnel repeat the stunt
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#124
... In a statement the Guardian rejected the accusations from Wikileaks, explaining
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#137
The Der Spiegel article is worth a read, but you clearly didn't bother to read it
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#144
Thank you, this truly is Orwellian and very scary. But it proves Assange was correct
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#148
His complaint of "having been detained for 659 days without charge" brought tears to my eyes!
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#24
It's evidence, at least, that the dude is a self-absorbed blowhard and careless with his words
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#128
No cigar for you: "I speak to you today as a free man, because despite having been detained
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#121
But once again, you attempt to distract from the facts. Was his claim correct or not?
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#149
Nobody else ever counts time spent out on bail as time in detention, nor does anyone else
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#151
Wrong, he has been detained under house arrest for two years, required to report
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#152
excellent speech. freedom of speech and press are the foundations of a democracy
xiamiam
Sep 2012
#21
if sunlight is the best disinfectant then he should stop hiding from it neh? nt
Bodhi BloodWave
Sep 2012
#93
if that's the extent of your understanding of events surrounding Assange's persecution...
mike_c
Sep 2012
#145
Assange should've focused on corporate leaks more than US government leaks. nt
Comrade_McKenzie
Sep 2012
#39
So it wasn't a good idea for TuniLeaks ( works in partnership with Wikileaks) to
Luminous Animal
Sep 2012
#73
RT is one of the best news outlets available here in the US. Their coverage of foreign
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#160
Yes, one woman has accused him of raping her and is going through with the prosecution.
joshcryer
Sep 2012
#170
Still trying I see. No matter how many facts you are presented with, you still insist
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#174