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Response to Ash_F (Reply #147)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 07:37 AM

181. It's very easily done

And the very first sentence you wrote here is factually incorrect, which makes me wonder where you are getting your info from.

I wrote that the Iranian people would have no political recourse if they wanted to replace the Supreme Leader as was made evident in 2009.

You respond by saying that "2009 was not to replace the Ayatollah, but to elect the President" which demonstrates either ignorance or willful misrepresentation.

Maybe you weren't following the news at that time so let me share with you a few
articles from that period:

Protesters cry: 'Death to Khamenei'

Excerpts:

Eyewitnesses described fierce clashes near Revolution Square in central Tehran after some 3,000 protesters chanted "Death to the dictator!" and "Death to Khamenei".

Iranian state TV later confirmed police had used batons and other non-lethal weapons against what it called unauthorised demonstrations. General Ismail Ahmadi Moghadam said: "We acted with leniency but I think from today on, we should resume law and confront more seriously. The events have become exhausting, bothersome and intolerable. I want them to take police cautions seriously because we will definitely show a serious confrontation against those who violate rules."

Witnesses said between 50 and 60 protesters were seriously beaten by police and pro-government militia and taken to Imam Khomeini hospital in central Tehran. People could be seen dragging away those injured by baton strikes.

Tehran University was cordoned off by police and militia while students inside the university chanted "death to the dictator", witnesses said. Police and militia barred people from entering

. In Towhid Sq. a friend was hit by batons in the head and he's now in hospital. I don't know if the western governments are going to just sit there and watch us being hit and killed or if they will actually make a difference."

"If this goes on I don't think there will be more demonstrations in coming days. Today they showed a really brutal force and we Iranians know that they will do even worse because the are capable of that. There won't be mass demonstrations unless Mr.Moosavi or Karroobi come into streets themselves. That will make it different. But as for now I think they have silenced people.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/protesters-cry-death-to-khamenei-1711553.html

From CNN:

Chants of "Death to Khamenei" broke a state-imposed, and a self-imposed absolute prohibition on criticizing a leader believed to be wielding the wisdom and authority of God himself.

But right now, the massive network of Iran's intelligence agents, Revolutionary Guard, paramilitary Basij, and police of all sorts, are cracking down.

Sources say they are also going house to house, through email accounts and web postings, through cell phone calls and SMS text messages (when the system is allowed to stay up) and even to taxi agencies whose drivers hoisted Mir Hossein Moussavi posters during the election campaign.

They are rounding people up and, as it was chillingly put to me, in Iran's prisons "we have room for all of them." In addition protestors are being paraded "confessing and repenting" on Iranian state TV.

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-06-25/world/iran.election.amanpour_1_iranian-revolutionary-guard-corps-ayatollah-ali-khamenei-clerical-establishment?_s=PM:WORLD

There are numerous videos showing the "Death to Khamenei" chants posted on Youtube and elsewhere.

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